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GrumpyNooby
post Jun 29 2020, 10:01 PM

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What the EPF’s 1Q says about 2020 dividend

A. RM50 billion write-down?

Excluding the unspecified amount of write-downs from “mainly equities” that resulted in a net investment income of RM7.5 billion for 1Q2020, the headline gross investment income of RM12.16 billion for 1Q2020 was not too shabby compared with the RM9.6 billion booked in 1Q2019 — which incidentally was the EPF’s worst quarter last year as income from equities fell by about RM2 billion compared with the subsequent quarters.

The EPF’s total investment assets of RM874 billion as at end-March 2020, however, were down just over RM50 billion or 5.5% compared with RM924.75 billion as at end-2019.

B. Even 4% dividend tough

Alizakri reminded yet again that the threshold to deliver every 1% of dividend has risen substantially in the past decade and is still increasing. In 2009, the EPF needed RM3.43 billion to pay 1% of dividend. That means that the RM45.82 billion dividend declared for 2019 would have been enough to pay more than the 13% dividend declared in 2009.

The EPF has yet to release its 2019 annual report and financial statements, which need to be approved in Parliament beforehand.

The EPF only needs to deliver at least a 2.5% nominal dividend and beat inflation by at least 2% on a rolling three-year basis.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/what...t-2020-dividend
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post Jun 30 2020, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 29 2020, 10:01 PM)
What the EPF’s 1Q says about 2020 dividend

A. RM50 billion write-down?

Excluding the unspecified amount of write-downs from “mainly equities” that resulted in a net investment income of RM7.5 billion for 1Q2020, the headline gross investment income of RM12.16 billion for 1Q2020 was not too shabby compared with the RM9.6 billion booked in 1Q2019 — which incidentally was the EPF’s worst quarter last year as income from equities fell by about RM2 billion compared with the subsequent quarters.

The EPF’s total investment assets of RM874 billion as at end-March 2020, however, were down just over RM50 billion or 5.5% compared with RM924.75 billion as at end-2019.

B. Even 4% dividend tough

Alizakri reminded yet again that the threshold to deliver every 1% of dividend has risen substantially in the past decade and is still increasing. In 2009, the EPF needed RM3.43 billion to pay 1% of dividend. That means that the RM45.82 billion dividend declared for 2019 would have been enough to pay more than the 13% dividend declared in 2009.

The EPF has yet to release its 2019 annual report and financial statements, which need to be approved in Parliament beforehand.

The EPF only needs to deliver at least a 2.5% nominal dividend and beat inflation by at least 2% on a rolling three-year basis.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/what...t-2020-dividend
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more contribution + compounded interest, of course la need bigger amount to maintain the same % dividend doh.gif + laugh.gif
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post Jun 30 2020, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 29 2020, 10:01 PM)
What the EPF’s 1Q says about 2020 dividend

A. RM50 billion write-down?

Excluding the unspecified amount of write-downs from “mainly equities” that resulted in a net investment income of RM7.5 billion for 1Q2020, the headline gross investment income of RM12.16 billion for 1Q2020 was not too shabby compared with the RM9.6 billion booked in 1Q2019 — which incidentally was the EPF’s worst quarter last year as income from equities fell by about RM2 billion compared with the subsequent quarters.

The EPF’s total investment assets of RM874 billion as at end-March 2020, however, were down just over RM50 billion or 5.5% compared with RM924.75 billion as at end-2019.

B. Even 4% dividend tough

Alizakri reminded yet again that the threshold to deliver every 1% of dividend has risen substantially in the past decade and is still increasing. In 2009, the EPF needed RM3.43 billion to pay 1% of dividend. That means that the RM45.82 billion dividend declared for 2019 would have been enough to pay more than the 13% dividend declared in 2009.

The EPF has yet to release its 2019 annual report and financial statements, which need to be approved in Parliament beforehand.

The EPF only needs to deliver at least a 2.5% nominal dividend and beat inflation by at least 2% on a rolling three-year basis.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/what...t-2020-dividend
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WHY is he using data which is 11 years old? mad.gif
SUShengger
post Jun 30 2020, 08:30 AM

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I am worried with next year dividend.
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post Jun 30 2020, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(hengger @ Jun 30 2020, 08:30 AM)
I am worried with next year dividend.
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If u are worried, u can take out and invest in unit trust
prophetjul
post Jun 30 2020, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(wendygoh @ Jun 30 2020, 08:39 AM)
If u are worried, u can take out and invest in unit trust
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you will be more worried. laugh.gif
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post Jun 30 2020, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 30 2020, 08:48 AM)
you will be more worried.  laugh.gif
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post Jun 30 2020, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 30 2020, 08:48 AM)
you will be more worried.  laugh.gif
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To be fair, if you have high tax brackets, max out PRS unit trust contribution first to cut tax.
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post Jun 30 2020, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 30 2020, 02:50 PM)
To be fair, if you have high tax brackets, max out PRS unit trust contribution first to cut tax.
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post Jun 30 2020, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(hengger @ Jun 30 2020, 08:30 AM)
I am worried with next year dividend.
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QUOTE(wendygoh @ Jun 30 2020, 08:39 AM)
If u are worried, u can take out and invest in unit trust
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 30 2020, 08:48 AM)
you will be more worried.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jun 30 2020, 12:44 PM)
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post Jun 30 2020, 06:25 PM

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I'm trying to derive profile of fellow forumers.
Will plot some Charts.

Age :
20-30, a
31-40, b
41-50, c
51-60, d
> 60, e

Kwsp acc1+acc2+gold (RM K), ie, 1,000s savings :
(If earn Sgp $ in SRS or CPF, just x 3.)
Rm100-300, a
Rm301-600, b
Rm601-900, c
Rm901-1200, d
Rm1201-1500, e
>Rm1501, f

How you feel of kwsp performance :
Satisfied, let kwsp fund mgrs do their work, a
Neutral, buy 10% PRS n IT, b
Dissatisfied, want to manage own Acc1, c
Most dissatisfied, want to withdraw all kwsp, d

Example of a Wealthy Uncle reply cud be = d, f, a.


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post Jun 30 2020, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 30 2020, 06:25 PM)
I'm trying to derive profile of fellow forumers.
Will plot some Charts.

Age :
20-30, a
31-40, b
41-50, c
51-60, d
> 60, e

Kwsp acc1+acc2+gold (RM K), ie, 1,000s savings :
(If earn Sgp $ in SRS or CPF, just x 3.)
Rm100-300, a
Rm301-600, b
Rm601-900, c
Rm901-1200, d
Rm1201-1500, e
>Rm1501, f

How you feel of kwsp performance :
Satisfied, let kwsp fund mgrs do their work, a
Neutral, buy 10% PRS n IT, b
Dissatisfied, want to manage own Acc1, c
Most dissatisfied, want to withdraw all kwsp, d

Example of a Wealthy Uncle reply  cud be = d, f, a.
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D, F, C
Unkerpanjang
post Jun 30 2020, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 30 2020, 07:46 PM)
D, F, C
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Tq, #1.
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 30 2020, 06:25 PM)
I'm trying to derive profile of fellow forumers.
Will plot some Charts.

Age :
20-30, a
31-40, b
41-50, c
51-60, d
> 60, e

Kwsp acc1+acc2+gold (RM K), ie, 1,000s savings :
(If earn Sgp $ in SRS or CPF, just x 3.)
Rm100-300, a
Rm301-600, b
Rm601-900, c
Rm901-1200, d
Rm1201-1500, e
>Rm1501, f

How you feel of kwsp performance :
Satisfied, let kwsp fund mgrs do their work, a
Neutral, buy 10% PRS n IT, b
Dissatisfied, want to manage own Acc1, c
Most dissatisfied, want to withdraw all kwsp, d

Example of a Wealthy Uncle reply  cud be = d, f, a.
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A, A, A (for the third option, EPF is okay but due to liquidity issues, I diversify into stocks, ASNB FPs and UTs offered by FSM. Otherwise I am satisfied with the EPF managers' performance.)
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:11 PM

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I heard EPF will bring up age to 65 for withrawal. Is it true?
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(bisobona @ Jun 30 2020, 09:11 PM)
I heard EPF will bring up age to 65 for withrawal. Is it true?
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you must have missed this then....published on 26 june 2020
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...stion-says-fund
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(wendygoh @ Jun 30 2020, 08:39 AM)
If u are worried, u can take out and invest in unit trust
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unit trust is more risky.
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 30 2020, 06:25 PM)
I'm trying to derive profile of fellow forumers.
Will plot some Charts.

Age :
20-30, a
31-40, b
41-50, c
51-60, d
> 60, e

Kwsp acc1+acc2+gold (RM K), ie, 1,000s savings :
(If earn Sgp $ in SRS or CPF, just x 3.)
Rm100-300, a
Rm301-600, b
Rm601-900, c
Rm901-1200, d
Rm1201-1500, e
>Rm1501, f

How you feel of kwsp performance :
Satisfied, let kwsp fund mgrs do their work, a
Neutral, buy 10% PRS n IT, b
Dissatisfied, want to manage own Acc1, c
Most dissatisfied, want to withdraw all kwsp, d

Example of a Wealthy Uncle reply  cud be = d, f, a.
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post Jun 30 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(hengger @ Jun 30 2020, 09:14 PM)
unit trust is more risky.
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post Jul 1 2020, 05:23 AM

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Well, that is interesting to know that someone that is dissatisfied and want to manage account 1 themselves would want to self contribute more money into epf. That just doesnt make any sense.

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