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lyc1982
post Feb 19 2020, 09:57 AM

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looks like 2019 epf dividend is not going to be similar to 2018's...?
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post Feb 19 2020, 10:47 AM

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how many of you here self-contribute rm60k (or any amount) since 2018 ?


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post Feb 19 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(drbone @ Feb 19 2020, 10:48 AM)
Been doing for the past 5 years for me and 3 other family members. Max out each time in January every year.The 3 family members are about 55.
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i thought this feature only started in 2018....

anyways...if i self-contribute in let say June 2020, would the dividend get pro-rated ?
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post Feb 19 2020, 12:13 PM

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post Feb 19 2020, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(abe.cassim @ Feb 19 2020, 02:39 PM)
I just started last year. Only knew about this last year, but I wished that I discovered it earlier.
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so you straight max out the rm60k in january 2019 ?
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post Feb 19 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(abe.cassim @ Feb 19 2020, 02:53 PM)
Yep..on 2nd January
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via M2U or cimbclicks or PBE ?
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post Feb 20 2020, 12:59 AM

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how come you guys can view 2020 epf already ?

i login to my epf account...still unable to view my 2020 epf
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post Feb 20 2020, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Feb 20 2020, 01:17 AM)
Check your Withdrawal Eligibility section.
You can see the current total with any cuntributions made in 2020.
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erm...i can only see total without breakdowns

i just tested with cimbclicks topping up epf with rm10 yesterday...so just wanna check whether got thru or not
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post Feb 28 2020, 01:59 PM

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anyone here contribute more than 11% ?

what is the highest % here ?
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post Mar 2 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2020, 03:11 PM)
Company does that..
Up to 19% 💪

Employee just 11% only..
U want can do additional contribution your own..
Till 60k per year...
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my company only 12%...can request them to increase to 19% kah ?

QUOTE(sjteh @ Mar 2 2020, 03:20 PM)
Is this meant self contribution can reach rm60k?
Or total contribution from both side reach rm60k?
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self-contribution up to 60k annually...on top of employee + employee portions
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post Apr 1 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(CRaider2 @ Mar 30 2020, 07:28 PM)
actually my question was a 2 parter, if 1 is true what do we do and you had given suggestions. Am actually deciding if I should take and settle part of house loan since i believe the return will be slightly higher than fd rates in the coming months.
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i am not expert in these...

but based on my understanding, since house loan interest rate is lower than epf interest in this case (ignoring other investments)...shouldn't it makes more sense to inject more money into epf to earn interest to cover the house loan interest ?

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post Apr 1 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 1 2020, 02:07 PM)
Next year EPF dividend for 2020 will still be higher than house loan min EIR of 3.95%?

I'm kind of skeptical.
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can be higher or lower...

haha
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post Apr 24 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Apr 19 2020, 04:40 PM)
I would be very surprised if the dividend can  be higher than the minimum target of 2.50%. And also this they will have to pay out from the substance.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Apr 19 2020, 06:36 PM)
I'd be surprise if its more than bank FD rate.
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that means better stop self contribute epf for this year....?

QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2020, 10:42 AM)
Just find the word "benefit" weird, when reading the statement.
Not meant to "shoot" or whatever.  smile.gif

Just post just in case people too focus on tax saving side of perspective, and forgetting about the PRS risk compared to EPF.
PRS is never the same with EPF. They are in different league and different risk exposure.

Cheers.  smile.gif
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i deposited 3k in prs few years back....then afterwards realize the money gonna be locked in there till retirement age (no flexibility) and interest rate not as great

so i stopped since 1st deposit
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post Apr 24 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 24 2020, 03:14 PM)
You have the opportunity to withdrawal up to RM 1500 per PRS provider from Account II now.

https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/...Penalty-new.pdf
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didn't realize this....but only for year 2020...not really benefiting me

thanks for sharing !
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post Apr 27 2020, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 27 2020, 09:14 AM)
PRS doesn't have a "interest rate". It is not a FD that have an interest rate nor work as same as EPF.

PRS is a unit trust, its performance is tied to its portfolio investment gain/loss.

All gain or loss is about rise or drop in their investment, which can be seen from its daily NAV movement.
Whether the fund declare any distribution or not, it doesn't matter, as any distribution come from its NAV.
Eg. PRS ABC fund, NAV today is Rm1.00, next day it declares distribution of 3 cents, then you get the 3 cents, but NAV become RM0.97. So your total net worth in the PRS ABC fund still RM1.00.
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thanks for clarifying

i guess the unit trust performance is not that great to me

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post May 4 2020, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(farizmalek @ May 2 2020, 03:40 PM)
roger. thank you.. i just check online that we can also withdraw online and transfer to our bank for amount more than 1 million.
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QUOTE(farizmalek @ May 3 2020, 10:29 AM)
only for amount more than a million and have registered for online account at epf counter

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congrats on being a millionaire !
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post May 6 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ May 6 2020, 12:13 PM)
True, RM 1M in the EPF is nothing. By late-30s you should already reach this level if makan gaji.
That is assuming you dont withdraw from it for anything (i.e housing, education, healthcare etc)
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ermm...if your gross salary is in the range of rm5-10k...i doubt by late 30s can achieve
even without withdrawing a single cent
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post May 6 2020, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ May 6 2020, 03:12 PM)
Assume start working at 24, with wages 10k per month at start and remains the same until 39.

10K per month - Total EPF saved per year is only RM27K.
15 years RM414K saved, compounded with EPF return of 6%, still short 1 mil.

Need more than 10K.

Basically, need 5 digit wages per month.
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yeap...hence it's not normal with malaysia salary range

and how many 24yo can start with > 10k gross salary ?

of course some can argue salary will increase gradually...but by how much ?

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post May 6 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ May 6 2020, 03:23 PM)
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guys this is a simple projection of  what my epf account will look like after 20 years. u guys can see. getting 1 million is easy as a cake
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ermm....ok

based on my own experience...it doesn't look like this

but as long as you are confident then ok
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post May 6 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ May 6 2020, 03:56 PM)
what is means by 4960 total.

With first year contributed 9360, with 6% interest, no way total interest earned will be 4960.

The total column doesn't make sense.
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ikr...that's like >50% interest in a year !

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