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prophetjul
post Feb 18 2013, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 17 2013, 10:08 PM)
I wish every year is an election year smile.gif
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Unfortunately this is the wish of immaturity.....to feed off the politicians....similarly to the BR1M.....

Handouts and handouts galore.........grovelling at the feet of them politicians while they make
their millions and crash the country

When that happpens, how much is your RMs in the EPF worth? nod.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jan 6 2014, 10:17 PM)
Stock market so good in malaysia and all over the world. Should be better than last year. 6.5% ?
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Retain some profit for bad years......... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 13 2014, 09:06 AM

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EPF will have to share profits with other funds.........so
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post Feb 16 2014, 03:34 PM

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Samsudin said the dividend rate was declared on the back of a record gross investment income of RM35 billion, a 12.81% rise from the RM31.02 billion gross investment income recorded in 2012.


Yet 6.15 to 6.35% is only a 3.25% rise!

Their COSTs must be ASTRONOMICAL! mad.gif
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post Feb 16 2014, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Feb 16 2014, 04:13 PM)
My EPF contribution in 2013 alone alrdy RM46,000... brows.gif

hope this year...target maxRM 60,000 or more less RM50k...

1st two months, alrdy accumulated this year..RM10k++  rolleyes.gif
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Shewing off?
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post Feb 16 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Feb 16 2014, 04:59 PM)
this is discussion...then why u come in this thread.. hmm.gif
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Discussion about EPF's 6.35% Or about yer rather miserable numbers? laugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
If someone continues to contribute young (say if they start at 25) and work till early retirement (55).
Monthly salary of average 3K, 11% self, 12% employer contribution. avg 5.5% divi, including adjusting for inflation 3%.

They can achieve millionaire status (7 digits) in retirement fund by 55.

For those who already achieve their goal today (7 digits) in their fund,
they can live on the dividends alone with moderate lifestyle and leave the rest in there to continue
to collect the dividends every year.

So, slow and steady... everyone can reach their goal!  thumbup.gif
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Whats your assumed rate of salary growth?

Problem nowadays you may want to withdraw for house purchase. That's reduces the principal.
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post Feb 18 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 18 2014, 09:21 AM)
I assumed in line with inflation 3%..

No, NOT a single withdrawal for ANY purchase from the main account. If anyone wants to save for house purchase, he/she can open 2nd account and definitely can contribute now (self contribute or ask employer to help).
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Downside


In 30years, Rm1mil is worth Rm411,986 in today's value biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 18 2014, 09:32 AM)
Don't pour cold water lah!..  just tell 'em it is 7 digits with no decimal points!  laugh.gif
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ALL GOODing!
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post Feb 18 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 18 2014, 09:32 AM)
But still a millionaire  rclxms.gif
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Indon Rupiah? Billionaire?

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post Feb 19 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Feb 18 2014, 04:34 PM)
are you sure EPF distribute almost 100% profits to members?  hmm.gif  why I got the feeling "they" kept some profit for "unknown" thing? hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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They will have to retain some profits for MAS
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post Jan 8 2015, 09:03 AM

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No Election.
EPF's stock were crushed in last qtr.

Lucky to see 5,5%
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 8 2015, 11:14 PM)
nexona88,

You do know that THE GOVERNMENT's debt is about the same size as EPF.  And, THE GOVERNMENT's debt is increasing faster than EPF every year.  So, it is just a question of WHEN.

"Don't worry, be happy!!!"

There will be people that cash out FD to put extra into EPF to keep this ship afloat a bit longer.

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Cant compare the two. Its a blind spin.

debts are time based as well. Some are long termed. The more important is the cash flow to manage these debts.

The way your are writing is as if the country has NO other source of income.

But of course EPF is already holding lotsa gomen debt paper.

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post Feb 9 2015, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 9 2015, 11:56 AM)
prophetjul,

<<The way your are writing is as if the country has NO other source of income.>>

1) DEBT is increasing because EXPENSE is greater than INCOME...  Since THE GOVERNMENT's debt is growing, we can agree that the EXPENSE is greater than INCOME every year

<<The more important is the cash flow to manage these debts. >>

2) So, the QUESTION is the CASH FLOW into EPF big enough cover THE DEBT increase??

  A) Is the EPF contribution rate increasing??

  B) Is the EPF withdrawal age changing??

EPF is the accumulated savings of many years of many Malaysians.  It is THE LARGEST POOL of money in Malaysia.  But, it is at the same size as THE GOVERNMENT's debt.  And, THE DEBT is still increasing at 40 to 50 billions per year.

So, it is OBVIOUS that THE GOVERNMENT need to borrow from THE FOREIGNER to cover THE DEBT pretty soon.  If it had not happened yet.

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Again, you are writing AS IF EPF is paying for ALL the debt increase. There are many other local debt holders apart from EPF

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post Feb 9 2015, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 9 2015, 01:23 PM)
If govt gone bankcrupt which is unlikely, court will lelong govt's assets to repay us, or govt can reclaim land(current price rm38m/acre & Johor & Singapore with be separated by a stream) and payback creditors with land.
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Gomen will never go bankrupt.

Country can.
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post Feb 10 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 9 2015, 09:42 PM)
prophetjul,

1) EPF is the LARGEST POOL of money in Malaysia.  If EPF cannot cover the increase, there are NOT ENOUGH local debt holder to cover the debt increase.

2) In summary, THE GOVERNMENT is borrowing from the FOREIGNER now.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...nomic-dashboard

<< That would be the fourth red light blinking on the dashboard of an economy running on debt on all fronts: government, households and the capital account.

The possibility has unnerved foreign investors who have US$45 billion (RM160 billion) parked in the country's bonds and have lent a total of US$208 billion (RM741 billion) to the high-yielding Southeast Asian country.>>

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...x.P6LtLpxj.dpuf
3) By the way, you are the person that posted this fact on the other thread.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3374996/+420

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Yes, thats the thing. Its not just EPF which is holding the gomen bonds.

My present concern is debt rating. We may be headed for higher cost debt if Fitch gets itchy.........
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post Apr 13 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 12 2015, 09:33 PM)
A total of 20,867 have bal > RM1.00 mil with EPF @ 31/12/14
On average, tis individual have RM1.63 mil each with EPF
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Are you? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 13 2015, 11:12 AM)
Nope, still a Long way to go
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Actually nowadays Rm1mil is not much
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post Apr 13 2015, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 13 2015, 12:35 PM)
you are one of the 20K people that having 1mil in EPF?  drool.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 13 2015, 02:00 PM)
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1 mil is not much ler........

In 1990, i used Rm100k out of account 2 to purchase a house.

On hindsight good decision! biggrin.gif

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