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romuluz777
post Oct 9 2025, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 3 2025, 09:59 PM)
How come suddenly concerned about this 1.3M threshold? Shouldn't really affect you much already since you're a few years from 55, right? (gam gam 55 in 2028?)

For those of us still "too young" (below 50), your earlier point is the real takeaway: adapt... adapt... adapt... Time to relook at retirement planning, cashflow needs, and whether topping up EPF is worth it if the goalposts can shift anytime.

Also, for context: the RIA framework is pegged to 2023/2024 data, and EPF already said it'll be reviewed every three years. Does anyone here seriously think that by 2028 the cost of living will remain the same as 2023/24? As if inflation suddenly stops? Even using something as basic as my earlier chicken rice index at ~5% p.a., 1.3m rm today becomes 1.6m in 2028 (rounded up from 1.586m). And the RIA begins again...

So yes, “RIA” is a nice acronym... a moving number. No wonder EPF RIA lar... whistling.gif  lol 

(for those above 40, the bigger risk isn’t this threshold at all — it’s whether EPF decides to "align" with a future retirement age of 65. If that happens, don’t be shocked if 55/60 withdrawal ages quietly get shifted up too.)
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If the full withdrawal age is shifted to match the higher retirement age above 60 (if that ever happens), then it will be affecting only the
Account Emas (currently set at age 60 for full access) and not the Account 55.

So, nothing to worry about.
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post Oct 9 2025, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Oct 9 2025, 09:59 AM)
If the full withdrawal age is shifted to match the higher retirement age above 60 (if that ever happens), then it will be affecting only the
Account Emas (currently set at age 60 for full access) and not the Account 55.

So, nothing to worry about.
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anytime if gov want to move the goal post they can do so
so just pay attention to small details
adjust your contribution accordingly


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post Oct 9 2025, 12:28 PM

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Source: THEEDGEMALAYSIA.COM - Govt still considering EPF reforms as majority of Malaysians struggle to save, senior citizens live in poverty


Some interesting statistics putting down here for future reference. As of Aug 2025 :-

Age group (years) Active members as % of total members within band
18-30 3.1 0.78 (25.3%) 4.42 0.82 (18.6%) 70.14%
31-40 2.33 1.08 (46.4%) 4.22 1.19 (28.3%) 55.21%
41-50 1.51 0.79 (52.7%) 3.46 0.92 (26.5%) 43.64%
51-55 0.53 0.24 (45.55%) 1.41 0.30 (21.2%) 37.59%
Overall 7.46 2.90 (38.8%) 13.51 3.23 (23.9%) 55.22%


There is still some missing stuff in the above table, namely the > 55 years old members not accounted for..

I will leave it as it... as this topics can delve into many derivatives discussion which I am not prepared for today, among them :-
- more 40+ members move out of EPF (hence formal employment) to earn better living for their retirement?
- Is EPF the sole source of retirement funding?? I am sure most among the more financial literate here would say definitely NO.
etc etc
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post Oct 9 2025, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Oct 9 2025, 09:59 AM)
If the full withdrawal age is shifted to match the higher retirement age above 60 (if that ever happens), then it will be affecting only the
Account Emas (currently set at age 60 for full access) and not the Account 55.

So, nothing to worry about.
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Oct 9 2025, 11:55 AM)
anytime if gov want to move the goal post they can do so
so just pay attention to small details
adjust your contribution accordingly
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Both perspectives and advices have their merits. It really comes down to each individual's situation, especially age and available alternatives.

For those of us still some distance away from 50, it’s probably wiser to lean toward the more flexible approach. EPF's rules have shown that they can shift, and when the goalposts move, so should we.

Personally, it doesn’t make much sense to leave say an extra 1m parked in EPF for like the next 15 years before 55, fully exposed to policy tweaks, all for a 6% pa. There are plenty of other investments that can match or exceed that, with way better control and liquidity.

For those nearer to 55 (or already past 60), the story is different. At that stage, the compounding has done its job and you have earned the compounded fruits of your effort. Now it’s more about enjoying them and managing the cashflow wisely.
But like all advices, its easier said... if I were around 60, I would still relook into my cashflow plans.. goalposts had been shifted, again and again.


(future members... best advice is just live with it... too bad... rclxub.gif )

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Oct 9 2025, 01:29 PM
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post Oct 9 2025, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 9 2025, 12:59 PM)
Both perspectives and advices have their merits. It really comes down to each individual's situation, especially age and available alternatives.

For those of us still some distance away from 50, it’s probably wiser to lean toward the more flexible approach. EPF's rules have shown that they can shift, and when the goalposts move, so should we.

Personally, it doesn’t make much sense to leave say an extra 1m parked in EPF for like the next 15 years before 55, fully exposed to policy tweaks, all for a 6% pa. There are plenty of other investments that can match or exceed that, with way better control and liquidity.

For those nearer to 55 (or already past 60), the story is different. At that stage, the compounding has done its job and you have earned the compounded fruits of your effort. Now it’s more about enjoying them and managing the cashflow wisely.
But like all advices, its easier said... if I were around 60, I would still relook into my cashflow plans.. goalposts had been shifted, again and again.
(future members... best advice is just live with it... too bad...  rclxub.gif )
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i am a noob when it comes to wise investment.
please suggest what are the investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe.

thank you in advance.
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post Oct 9 2025, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 9 2025, 02:17 PM)
i am a noob when it comes to wise investment.
please suggest what are the investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe.

thank you in advance.
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invest direct into MBB, HLB, CIMB, RHB i think 5% minimum sure got- with some capital appreciation as well

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post Oct 9 2025, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 9 2025, 02:17 PM)
i am a noob when it comes to wise investment.
please suggest what are the investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe.

thank you in advance.
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Since you mentioned you are a noob, I just advice caution above all... And take things slow.
It's like if you have never gone to the gym, best to lift small weights first.

May I suggest that you search and read what bro RamJade wrote in great details in the FIRE and other financial threads. A great read to start things off. Take your time....

(credit to Ramjade for his willingness to detail much of the process. But that doesn't mean readers should just blindly follow. Investing is both science and art, blended according to each needs)

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Oct 9 2025, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 9 2025, 02:17 PM)
i am a noob when it comes to wise investment.
please suggest what are the investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe.

thank you in advance.
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investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe....
Try Cash Trust fund, which i think can meet most of your prerequisite.
can match or exceed 6% ,....(in that existing thread, mentioned more than 6%)
with better control and liquidity,....(in that existing thread, mentioned some shorter than locking period of kwsp, but it still can withdraw if you dont mind the penalty)
and reasonably safe....(so far no mention of runaway or non payment by these locally registered trust entities yet in that thread)



There is an existing thread
Ubb CASH TRUST 3 years nett 6-8% pa anyone?, UBB Amanah Bhd
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4801818/+380



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post Oct 10 2025, 01:30 PM

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Some may be true some maybe scam. Risking it for almost same outcome somehow does not be logical.

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post Oct 10 2025, 04:51 PM

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budget 2026 got anything related to EPF?
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QUOTE(plc255 @ Oct 9 2025, 12:28 PM)
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Source: THEEDGEMALAYSIA.COM - Govt still considering EPF reforms as majority of Malaysians struggle to save, senior citizens live in poverty
Some interesting statistics putting down here for future reference. As of Aug 2025 :-

Age group (years)                                                      Active members as %  of total members within band
18-30 3.1 0.78 (25.3%) 4.42 0.82 (18.6%) 70.14%
31-40 2.33 1.08 (46.4%) 4.22 1.19 (28.3%) 55.21%
41-50 1.51 0.79 (52.7%) 3.46 0.92 (26.5%) 43.64%
51-55 0.53 0.24 (45.55%) 1.41 0.30 (21.2%) 37.59%
Overall 7.46 2.90 (38.8%) 13.51 3.23 (23.9%) 55.22%
There is still some missing stuff in the above table, namely the > 55 years old members not accounted for..

I will leave it as it... as this topics can delve into many derivatives discussion which I am not prepared for today, among them :-
- more 40+ members move out of EPF (hence formal employment) to earn better living for their retirement?
- Is EPF the sole source of retirement funding?? I am sure most among the more financial literate here would say definitely NO.
etc etc
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If Unker remember correctly, EPF tagline used to be "menjamin simpanan hari tua anda".

It means that your saving is safe and secure

That can't be said for your retirement adequacy
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EPF withdrawal limit for Hajj increase from RM 3,000 currently to RM 10,000 in 2026
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 10 2025, 09:33 PM)
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/772795

EPF withdrawal limit for Hajj increase from RM 3,000 currently to RM 10,000 in 2026
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... wisdom is in keeping silent.... innocent.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 10 2025, 09:33 PM)
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/772795

EPF withdrawal limit for Hajj increase from RM 3,000 currently to RM 10,000 in 2026
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Wah... Not bad
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post Oct 11 2025, 12:14 AM

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Then years later, they will again publish data showing lots of contributors does not hv enough for retirement use.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 10 2025, 06:36 AM)
investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe....
Try Cash Trust fund, which i think can meet most of your prerequisite.
can match or exceed 6% ,....(in that existing thread, mentioned more than 6%)
with better control and liquidity,....(in that existing thread, mentioned some shorter than locking period of kwsp, but it still can withdraw if you dont mind the penalty)
and reasonably safe....(so far no mention of runaway or non payment by these locally registered trust entities yet in that thread)
There is an existing thread
Ubb CASH TRUST 3 years nett 6-8% pa anyone?, UBB Amanah Bhd
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4801818/+380
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This UBB Amanah seem to be hot soup lately right?
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post Oct 11 2025, 05:40 AM

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QUOTE(hedfi @ Oct 11 2025, 01:38 AM)
This UBB Amanah seem to be hot soup lately right?
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I read in the news, it was Lernabee that was in hot soup.

Dec 2023
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/693631

Feb 2024
https://www.learnabee.com/p/wa-22ncvc-393-07-2022

Am I right or it was a different kind of hot soup you are talking about?



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Then years later, they will again publish data showing lots of contributors does not hv enough for retirement use.
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As usual lorh....

Then keep having new policy for withdrawal.... In the name of retirement nest $$$ need to be preserved 😁
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Anyone knows when the i-saraan interest will be credited? 🤔
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Anyone knows when the i-saraan interest will be credited? 🤔
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Either end of this month or November (same as in 2023)

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