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post May 6 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 6 2016, 11:29 AM)
expect more spam PM or post from UT agents blush.gif
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CEO Sharhril says the fee drop is similar to how stock-broker experience. it was used to be 0.6% when using stock-broker, but nowadays online platform only charge 0.20 to 0.25% p.a. It is more than fifty percent drop.

Similarly, an agent fee will follow similar suit.

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post May 6 2016, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 6 2016, 11:23 AM)
Some salient points from the interview:

I) KWSP-MIS will be going online and to allow members to go direct UTF investment without agent. In future life is going to get more suckish for an agent, yes? @Sniperz!

II) KWSP-EFM management fee is around 0.25 to 0.30% p.a., versus 1.5% p.a., we retail investors are paying. But the KWSP CEO do not forsee a drop in annual management fee for KWSP-MIS for retail investors.

III) KWSP is sending a lot of their front line staff to get RFP qualification to provide quality professional advisory service FOC to members.

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heard that interview too. Gotta say I was quite impressed, he sounded better than most GLC and high ranking gov officers on breakfast grille

And yeah, look forward to MIS being even cheaper
But hor, would cash investment sales charge come down eventually?
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post May 6 2016, 05:17 PM

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Go check out EPF's 2015 Annual Report. Very informative.
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post May 6 2016, 09:25 PM

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May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year?
If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest?

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post May 6 2016, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 6 2016, 09:25 PM)
May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year?
If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest?
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If not mistaken immediately will get 2.5% pro rated with the balance after declaration.


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post May 8 2016, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 6 2016, 09:25 PM)
May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year?
If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest?
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Yes
The calculation is based on d o/s balance together with how many mths stayed
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post May 8 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 6 2016, 09:25 PM)
May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year?
If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest?
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yes. No worries. They will get 5 month interest..
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post May 8 2016, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 8 2016, 11:55 AM)
yes. No worries. They will get 5 month interest..
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5 month 2.5% or 6.5 %? And what is the date for the actual dividend to be paid? Thanks
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post May 9 2016, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 8 2016, 10:03 PM)
5 month 2.5% or 6.5 %? And what is the date for the actual dividend to be paid? Thanks
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2.5% is the minimum guaranteed. > 2.5% depends on how much EPF wants to give. So if that year is 7%, you will get 5 months of 7%p.a
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post May 9 2016, 07:34 AM

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Now seems letting money in epf is better than put them in unit trust.
None of my unit trust epf is profitable so far. Jual also rugi.
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post May 9 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(mt24 @ May 9 2016, 07:34 AM)
Now seems letting money in epf is better than put them in unit trust.
None of my unit trust epf is profitable so far. Jual also rugi.
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For the past three years, KWSP-MIS UTF(s) were doing double digit growth. If you have not participated in it, that is an opportunity cost loss.

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post May 9 2016, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 9 2016, 09:58 AM)
For the past three years, KWSP-MIS UTF(s) were doing double digit growth. If you have not participated in it, that is an opportunity cost loss.

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So far i participate pm, cimbwa, all rugi kaw kaw. Most rugu is cimbwa.
Dun wan to risk any further. Better keep in epf.
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post May 9 2016, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(mt24 @ May 9 2016, 10:08 AM)
So far i participate pm, cimbwa, all rugi kaw kaw. Most rugu is cimbwa.
Dun wan to risk any further. Better keep in epf.
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Did you invest in shariah compliant funds? These few years been really bad for shariah equity funds
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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 9 2016, 10:16 AM)
Did you invest in shariah compliant funds? These few years been really bad for shariah equity funds
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Yeah all syariah.
Oh i forgot the only still making profit is maakl fund.
Still positive despite many years in there.

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post May 9 2016, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(mt24 @ May 9 2016, 11:05 AM)
Yeah all syariah.
Oh i forgot the only still making profit is maakl fund.
Still positive despite many years in there.
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If you are a bumi, might consider asb & asb2. Both of them give 7-8% p.a
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 9 2016, 11:09 AM)
If you are a bumi, might consider asb & asb2. Both of them give 7-8% p.a
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I am fully aware of it but now i am talking about epf one.
Asb and asb2 couldn't for epf.
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post May 9 2016, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 9 2016, 11:09 AM)
If you are a bumi, might consider asb & asb2. Both of them give 7-8% p.a
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I sound like broken record - ASB and ASB2 are not shariah compliant tongue.gif
But yes, TS can invest in ASB & ASB2 if he is a bumi

Maybe the question is, if a muslim is ok to go for ASB & ASB2, then why not non-shariah compliant funds?

No intention to go into religious sensitive matters. Just a matter of fact discussion
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post May 9 2016, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 9 2016, 11:16 AM)
I sound like broken record - ASB and ASB2 are not shariah compliant  tongue.gif
But yes, TS can invest in ASB & ASB2 if he is a bumi

Maybe the question is, if a muslim is ok to go for ASB & ASB2, then why not non-shariah compliant funds?

No intention to go into religious sensitive matters. Just a matter of fact discussion
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I think asb & asb2 have better track record (return) compare to epf but like you said not syariah compliant. But if I am not mistaken, they are already ~70% syariah compliant.

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post May 9 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 9 2016, 11:19 AM)
I think asb & asb2 have better track record (return) compare to epf but like you said not syariah compliant. But if I am not mistaken, they are already ~70% syariah compliant.
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Thats something I never understand....

Its either compliant or not complaint, its like saying the food is 70% halal...
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post May 9 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 9 2016, 11:16 AM)
I sound like broken record - ASB and ASB2 are not shariah compliant  tongue.gif
But yes, TS can invest in ASB & ASB2 if he is a bumi

Maybe the question is, if a muslim is ok to go for ASB & ASB2, then why not non-shariah compliant funds?

No intention to go into religious sensitive matters. Just a matter of fact discussion
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ASB got 2 conclusion for it status. 1) not-shariah compliant 2) 'harus' - which is in between 'must' and 'cannot'

Can refer google source for it.

Hope its can answer both question.

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