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EPF DIVIDEND, EPF
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xuzen
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May 6 2016, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 6 2016, 11:29 AM) expect more spam PM or post from UT agents  CEO Sharhril says the fee drop is similar to how stock-broker experience. it was used to be 0.6% when using stock-broker, but nowadays online platform only charge 0.20 to 0.25% p.a. It is more than fifty percent drop. Similarly, an agent fee will follow similar suit. Xuzen
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dasecret
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May 6 2016, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 6 2016, 11:23 AM) Some salient points from the interview: I) KWSP-MIS will be going online and to allow members to go direct UTF investment without agent. In future life is going to get more suckish for an agent, yes? @Sniperz! II) KWSP-EFM management fee is around 0.25 to 0.30% p.a., versus 1.5% p.a., we retail investors are paying. But the KWSP CEO do not forsee a drop in annual management fee for KWSP-MIS for retail investors. III) KWSP is sending a lot of their front line staff to get RFP qualification to provide quality professional advisory service FOC to members. Xuzen heard that interview too. Gotta say I was quite impressed, he sounded better than most GLC and high ranking gov officers on breakfast grille And yeah, look forward to MIS being even cheaper But hor, would cash investment sales charge come down eventually?
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TC-Titan
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May 6 2016, 05:17 PM
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Go check out EPF's 2015 Annual Report. Very informative.
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wenqing
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May 6 2016, 09:25 PM
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May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year? If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest?
This post has been edited by wenqing: May 6 2016, 09:32 PM
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magika
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May 6 2016, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 6 2016, 09:25 PM) May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year? If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest? If not mistaken immediately will get 2.5% pro rated with the balance after declaration.
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wil-i-am
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May 8 2016, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 6 2016, 09:25 PM) May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year? If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest? Yes The calculation is based on d o/s balance together with how many mths stayed
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nexona88
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May 8 2016, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 6 2016, 09:25 PM) May I know what date is the EPF dividend cut off date?Is it first of january every year? If my parent which is over 60 years old withdraw portion of their money out this month, will they be entitle for the pass 5 month interest? yes. No worries. They will get 5 month interest..
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wenqing
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May 8 2016, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 8 2016, 11:55 AM) yes. No worries. They will get 5 month interest.. 5 month 2.5% or 6.5 %? And what is the date for the actual dividend to be paid? Thanks
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Ramjade
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May 9 2016, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 8 2016, 10:03 PM) 5 month 2.5% or 6.5 %? And what is the date for the actual dividend to be paid? Thanks 2.5% is the minimum guaranteed. > 2.5% depends on how much EPF wants to give. So if that year is 7%, you will get 5 months of 7%p.a
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mt24
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May 9 2016, 07:34 AM
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Now seems letting money in epf is better than put them in unit trust. None of my unit trust epf is profitable so far. Jual also rugi.
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xuzen
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May 9 2016, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(mt24 @ May 9 2016, 07:34 AM) Now seems letting money in epf is better than put them in unit trust. None of my unit trust epf is profitable so far. Jual also rugi. For the past three years, KWSP-MIS UTF(s) were doing double digit growth. If you have not participated in it, that is an opportunity cost loss. Xuzen
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mt24
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May 9 2016, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 9 2016, 09:58 AM) For the past three years, KWSP-MIS UTF(s) were doing double digit growth. If you have not participated in it, that is an opportunity cost loss. Xuzen So far i participate pm, cimbwa, all rugi kaw kaw. Most rugu is cimbwa. Dun wan to risk any further. Better keep in epf.
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dasecret
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May 9 2016, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(mt24 @ May 9 2016, 10:08 AM) So far i participate pm, cimbwa, all rugi kaw kaw. Most rugu is cimbwa. Dun wan to risk any further. Better keep in epf. Did you invest in shariah compliant funds? These few years been really bad for shariah equity funds
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mt24
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May 9 2016, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 9 2016, 10:16 AM) Did you invest in shariah compliant funds? These few years been really bad for shariah equity funds Yeah all syariah. Oh i forgot the only still making profit is maakl fund. Still positive despite many years in there.
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Ramjade
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May 9 2016, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(mt24 @ May 9 2016, 11:05 AM) Yeah all syariah. Oh i forgot the only still making profit is maakl fund. Still positive despite many years in there. If you are a bumi, might consider asb & asb2. Both of them give 7-8% p.a
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mt24
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May 9 2016, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 9 2016, 11:09 AM) If you are a bumi, might consider asb & asb2. Both of them give 7-8% p.a I am fully aware of it but now i am talking about epf one. Asb and asb2 couldn't for epf.
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dasecret
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May 9 2016, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 9 2016, 11:09 AM) If you are a bumi, might consider asb & asb2. Both of them give 7-8% p.a I sound like broken record - ASB and ASB2 are not shariah compliant But yes, TS can invest in ASB & ASB2 if he is a bumi Maybe the question is, if a muslim is ok to go for ASB & ASB2, then why not non-shariah compliant funds? No intention to go into religious sensitive matters. Just a matter of fact discussion
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Ramjade
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May 9 2016, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 9 2016, 11:16 AM) I sound like broken record - ASB and ASB2 are not shariah compliant But yes, TS can invest in ASB & ASB2 if he is a bumi Maybe the question is, if a muslim is ok to go for ASB & ASB2, then why not non-shariah compliant funds? No intention to go into religious sensitive matters. Just a matter of fact discussion I think asb & asb2 have better track record (return) compare to epf but like you said not syariah compliant. But if I am not mistaken, they are already ~70% syariah compliant. This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 9 2016, 11:26 AM
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MeToo
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May 9 2016, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 9 2016, 11:19 AM) I think asb & asb2 have better track record (return) compare to epf but like you said not syariah compliant. But if I am not mistaken, they are already ~70% syariah compliant. Thats something I never understand.... Its either compliant or not complaint, its like saying the food is 70% halal...
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annas473
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May 9 2016, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 9 2016, 11:16 AM) I sound like broken record - ASB and ASB2 are not shariah compliant But yes, TS can invest in ASB & ASB2 if he is a bumi Maybe the question is, if a muslim is ok to go for ASB & ASB2, then why not non-shariah compliant funds? No intention to go into religious sensitive matters. Just a matter of fact discussion ASB got 2 conclusion for it status. 1) not-shariah compliant 2) 'harus' - which is in between 'must' and 'cannot' Can refer google source for it. Hope its can answer both question.
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