if EPF is managed well... without any serious political interference (like force 10k withdrawals or die2 over 70% local exposure only)... then good luck in future....

don't bailout crony or buying up more MGS unnecessarily... more foreign exposure.... and bring the $$$

The reverse is happening...if Green Wave take over, gone case, all money songlapped or wasted to support prince of earth company like Serbok Dynamo.

I see this is eventual destiny of Malaysia.

sadly.... it's gone case...

sikit2 EPF 10k.... daily have demand for 10k...

but the last one... I observe... all not really for serious spending..... Kedai emas or car related only.... this 2 very popular & hot....

Just like turkey, hyperinflation but the people still voted the same president. This is the fear of everyone that green wave doesn't know how to manage a country's economy. Imagine the state has the same water issue for duno how many years and contributes almost the least to the GDP. Within 6 months of darurat, how many "leakages" already?

BEST!!! Bersih & Stabil!!!
Actually they can hire those consultant to help them manage if they dont know
they have advisor
all they need is to make the right decision for the sake of Rakyat and not their pocket
regardless Green / Blue / Red Wave all will be the same!

Bailout will happen no matter how 🤦‍♀️ it is just that whether by bailing out will they make money in the future because they are buying on the cheap but unlikely since 1998 because the best examples would be the banks that they bailed them out from

Foreign exposure they will have limitation because under the Act the priority already been enforced under it whereby 50% funds has to be in local Fixed Income while now having already at a high for foreign exposure 🤦‍♀️ Unless you can amend the Act by having a govt which have 70% control in Parliament to change the 50% then you can only dream from now 🤦‍♀️

Do you think Politicians really care about people 🤦‍♀️ All they only care is being in power and lining their own pockets 🤦‍♀️ If they do care they would have taken a fixed market based salary and no allowances granted

EPF investment income rises to rm15.16bil in Q1 2023, Investment assets up to rm1.04tri

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nst.com.my...assets-rm104tri

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jun 9 2023, 05:46 PM

RM15.6 bil equates to how many % dividend?

Too bad.... I failed math badly

So don't know how to count & calculate 😜😅

What I know...
If figure keep improving from last year...

Highly possible can maintain last year rate or little higher 🤑

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jun 9 2023, 02:52 PM

It's only 3% higher.

yeah... 3% higher but total funds also up like 3 to 4%.... its a wash....

As a very rough rule of thumb, EPF needs approx RM9b+ to pay for every one per cent of dividend.

That's the thing. ROE is sama sama.

based on the news, total investment 1.04tril. and total income = 15.6bil. for 1Q. assuming 4Q=64.4bil approx. 6.00% of total investment (before deducting other costs).

amended...

This post has been edited by mroys@lyn: Jun 9 2023, 03:20 PM

That would be 64.4/9 ~7% dividend.

so...

basically no effects

needed to see Q2 & Q3 figures to get the estimates for the rate for the whole year...

just 1Q results cannot calculate much

Not 104 trillion 🤦‍♀️ but 1.04 trillion

If 104trillion all our EPF would have another extra two 00 behind 😂

At least Q1 still making money but albeit small due to high weightage on FI but for sure 5% in the bag for 2023 provided no drastic changes in SAA

typo error

5% only? very sad

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jun 9 2023, 05:47 PM

5% is already guaranteed for 2023 🤦‍♀️ and if the Q2 results is on good trajectory easily will exceed 2022 payout

So be patient and wait for market then but 6% will be tough this year unless the govt is willing to inject money for the payout

At least write down is lower is positive while Bursa dividends won’t be good this year for EPF so you better pray that their Foreign equities will hold up well

but but but got calculation previous post estimate can get like 7%

gomen No $$$... how to inject more.... collect / intro more tax & milk from people got lorh

foreign equities somehow would perform well.... forex gain too... thanks to weak MYR