maybe it's mad cow disease...

or new year new resolution of plastering threads with wall of text...

or just the 28th day of the month...

uhhrrr... i don't get how they can build some ambrosio and ck combo but you still have to come up with the parts myself? have to buy spokes and nipples... isn't that a weird arrangement?

ehh... maybe some velocity??? aussie ma... must be proud of aussie products
why will you be burnt??? cause you are a witch???

apa lar... there is days to be serious and days to c0ck around.... c0ck shop will re-open after CNY day 15... must rack up some good boy point this 15 days to counter my past 2012 sins... hahahah

builders is none existent... whether reliable or not...

WAH !!!!! so worried that you may have been abducted and CLONED!!!! Alternatively, I was suspecting you were writing professionally and needed to maintain some form of structure.  

Thought so....about the builders. Otherwise a cheap fix is to just change the rim/spoke/tires/tubes/testicles (dont know why ppl still think male reproductive organs are tougher then the female counter component).

i guess they provide wheelbuilding service, just the service. but not the parts.

or maybe i was abducted and harnessed by those overlords from falling skies and you are in fact talking to aliens who watch the tour de france...

that veird...

it's like buying a car and they ask you to bring your own wheels...

No, i now work for velonews... and they have a strict "no c0cking and BS" rule...

or maybe i was abducted and harnessed by those overlords from falling skies and you are in fact talking to aliens who watch the tour de france...
wat does the reproductive organs have to do with toughness... either one is equally fragile....

doesn't that mean we have to bring our ambrosio rims and ck hubs as well?
there goes my good boy points...

doesn't that mean we have to bring our ambrosio rims and ck hubs as well?

fulcrum racing 3 - spokes are not as expensive as R1 or R0... but at local price here of almost RM1.8k... i might be thinking of upping my limit to fit the R1 in as the R1 is stiffer with the broad aluminum spokes, not necessarily a whole lot lighter but the stiffness makes a difference if you need it.. replacement spokes on the R3 are more expensive than conventional spokes but not as bad as R1 and R0 which is over RM50 per piece...

mavic ksyrium elite - would be the most sensible wheel for the price paid, spoke replacement might be a worry if you don't have a mavic shop nearby and it might not be as cheap as normal spoke although not exorbitant in price. I think price of SLS (SL is no longer available in 2013 range i believe) might be out of question unless you are willing to increase until beyond RM2k...

campy zonda - problem of having to invest in an extra shimano freehub if your shop does not have one already built with shimano freehub (which they are mostly not) due to it being built for riders running campy components, quite light but not worth price paid

shimano c24 -  don't think a new set is within your budget... the ones we see sold at RM1k - RM1.5k on BBS are stolen sets from shimano factory in johor. New ones especially C24 is much more than that....straight pull spokes reportedly weak with bulky riders and a pain to replace... not sure because of availability or price... for KL, it is both...

ea 90sl - reportedly a very tough wheel with 28r/24f spoking and quite feathery, heard of problems with the hub end cap tension adjustment... but not sure if it is true... and for the price of over 700 USD... makes you consider alternative options

the best is to know if the wheelset is well supported nearby or the shop you visit since lightweight wheelset tend to be less durable and you might want to be mentally prepared when shit happens... spoke breakages are more common in people who don't take care of their wheels... dented rims would mean immediate death, unless your shop stock up on replacement parts.. bearings would be the last to go and mostly due to natural reasons...

i think it is safe to say any of your listed wheels are confirmed a better than your alex wheels... in terms of both rolling resistance and also spin up rate...aero characteristics i would not demand much since no alloy wheels have more than 30 mm of height or it will be massively heavy and negate the purpose of the upgrade in the first place... and 30mm might not make much difference compared to a 24mm model...crosswind wise, unless you have some 404 or 808 type of height, i don't think it's a worry or safe to say you won't become another andy schleck...you might have to put some thoughts on what you prioritize...lightweight or aero? the unfortunate thing is alloy wheels will always not be aero...

or you can look into SRAM S30 wheels as it has torroidal shape copied from old zipps... if it is still around...

yeap. i think i said that, didn't i?

wow .. thanks for the input. Appreciate it  Now I have an idea what to expect with any of these wheelsets. There was a fulcrum zero that was sold for less than RM 2k last week  As for the c24, it's the older model 7850/7900 and not the latest 9000 Dura ace hence the cheaper price.

Guess at the end of the day, the most important thing is local support and availability of parts ie spokes. Cost of repair would come second I guess. I know for sure there's a number of shops that does provide support for mavic ksyrium wheels. Will have to ask how much they charge for spokes + workmanship.

I'm not going for any TT so I guess at the moment aero is of no concern, plus the wheelset will also be used for daily commute which means it will be exposed to rain/dust and carbon/deep dish attracts too much attention 

Have looked at sram s30 and can be bought from US stores for around my budget including shipping but those low spoke counts has me a little worried 

I've also considered buying local wheels and have narrowed it down to pro-lite bracciano. Those who use it swear by it and the plus point is it's below my budget 

nah V beats B, 100-1.

um, they only harness kids dude an you writing style is older then me. and they no watch TdF because they aim to please the overlords in exchange for cerebral orgasm. Ok, that sounded really weird.

there is a caveat you can use for that..........just buy us all Pinarello Dogma 65.2 I take mine in a 58 thank you 

i read sram red manuals. fussy product. pulleys and bb need to be serviced quite often. remove seal n drop some lube for ceramic bearings.

i'd go with sram force instead

Maybe 700grams is not that much when looking in numbers but perhaps noticeable when lifting up the bike. My current setup is around 8kg and when i put in 2 water bottle it feels heavy like 9kg plus.

2013 Red and 404 FC (swapping brtween FR0 for climbing terrain)= rm13k

Use it up for few years as u suggested and get perhaps an SL 5.

Hows that sound?