up to you dude...your money your decision... if you can afford an s-works, then go s-works...if you can't and is cash strapped for a complete spez bike, then that it is... else, save up more and buy wat you want...

it is all down to your impulse on that day itself...

SL4 to be frank is for the people who doubt if they ever need that extra 5-10% edge that the s-works have...there is a 50/50 chance you might or might not feel the difference other than aesthetics...so, you buy the best to eliminate your doubts...

your friend or "your friend" ???

vinann won't do that... he will stalk you all the way home and camp there day and night to wait for you to go out for a ride... he will then pounce on you that time... vinann likes to fight fair and square and he doesn't take cincai rides seriously...

he will only challenge the new spez owner to a fight in his full form and gear...

watever yanks your chain man... jus be sure you dun succumb to your impulse on the day itself and pull the wrong trigger....

maybe only if you ride a lerun would vinann not consider challenging you...

he even takes kids on a tricycle as a potential challenger...

jus dun get over your head OK.. this is not a race lite going to scultura.. this is an expensive bike going towards bankrupt

vin_ann don't take invites lightly... he takes it as an insult like he is being challenged... in his world, only he can challenge people but not the other way round...

VIN_ANN THE CHALLENGER

sounds like a great plan

jeng jeng... Mr. jgx

your cousin brother...

Pro bike: Matthew Lloyd's Merida Scultura SL

wooo....

mrjgx, what r u waiting for?

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honestly i have no idea. i bonked once. i mean, the real bonk. that was because i didn't have enough mileage (weak base). i try not to think too much. i eat as how a glutton would. i always believe that bonking is due to weak base and improper hydration during the ride. energy, i have lots of it in my reserve.

human body is one of the hardest thing to predict... what works fine today does not mean it will work fine the next time.. if you bonk, you bonk.. there is no way to prevent it by doing this or that in a routine manner...this is why came the invention of power meters like SRM as you don't gauge efforts purely on HR alone as it fluctuates depending on your body condition...

best is just to do it like how the endurance athletes do it.. carbo load the night before.. all the stuff that takes time and bodily energy to consume like pasta and stuff... then an hour before the ride, some light stuff like a coke, banana or some sugary stuff...

mid ride stuff you know lar...
or u meant poisoness?
i believe, you'll need an adapter if you are not running the spez FACT crank...

http://wheelsmfg.com/products/bottom-brack...b-adapters.html

haiyar.. it's a race frame mar... it's meant for people who can bend backwards to lick the floor...still you can slam the stem if you want... just be sure to say bye bye to your back or say hello to brokeback mountain...

you have to get it straight... pros expends a lot of their energy daily (rumored up to 9000kcals a day, easily more than 10 big mac meals) and their caloric consumption increases due to this... they require that much intake primarily for 2 reasons... speed up recovery for the next day (since injections of vitamins and any other legal drips are now prohibited) and to stock up fuel for the next day...

for us... we just do it to let our bodies digest, process and convert this calories and sugar into glycogen stores as the process of converting whatever you intake is well a process itself which puts a toll on your body... which is why you see the advises to do heavy carbo load the night before with enough time for it to be digested so your body can rest and use it for recovery during rest period and not hours before the race...

hours before the race, you just take on things that are easy to digest and absorb by your body so you don't start wearing yourself out even before a race begins...and the energy kick in is much faster...

furthermore, as i said... it ain't just as simple as energy in a ride... it is about knowing how to ration your efforts... there is no point going all out in the first half of the race and than killing yourself trying to complete the 2nd half... even tour riders especially team captains require domestiques to pull them up the first couple of mountain passes and act as a launch pad for their last attack up the last ascent of the day...in that sense, they save themselves until the very last critical moment and utilize all they have in that critical short period of time...

we are not salesman... we don't know what you ride and what you need... both is the top end bikes from spez and both are tailor made for their respective fields or in other words, best in what they do.... there is no point for the US to give a fighter pilot a lockheed martin F-117A stealth fighter to head into a combatzone dogfight while they give another pilot an F18 to head to Afghanistan for a stealth bombing mission run right? if you get what i mean..

there is no which is better than which? the venge is obviously better than the tarmac on flats with heavy wind and the tarmac is better than the venge when it comes to the point of a climb...

so, only you know yourself what you need and you select base on that... if we bull crap you on which to buy... doesn't that make us the same as bike shop salesman who is trying to influence your decision to buy whatever that makes them most money?

RODE ON NEW TYRES THIS MORNING AND GOT ANOTHER SIDEWALL CUT!!! WHAT LAH???

pink tarmac itu guna saddle apa??

Mr jgx please don't poison ppl with all the specialized bikes!
post ur bike soon? haha

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dude, don't be a david walsh

armstrong is already a basket load of off season bs

if you presume everyone is not on a level playing field, you might as well not watch the sport starting today cause it ain't gonna happen or you'd be watching A1GP if you know wat i mean.... no more "fingerboy" or alonso fans and scratching your nuts is much more interesting than the next overtaking move

the usual way, go to gym lots for upper body training and ride lots

or the extreme way... ride hard for long hours without single drop of water... dehydration is weight watchers best friend...5kilos in 1 session easy as chicken chop

serious, it depends if your weight is body composition of water, muscle mass or fat? then where is the part where you need to shave off?

with that, you target your workout on that area, no point working endless hours on your hamstrings if you have several michelin tires on your belly if you get the point

all tat is the easiest part, how to maintain the post lost weight will be the toughie

u should start utilizing the heart rate belt...it easy to loss fat using that method...
yup...it not fun to watch if they on the same level of playing field...bike manufacturer will not have selling point as there is no different between doraemon bike and s-works bike...just take your popcorn and enjoy all the drama...