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 Cycling V5 aka 8888 CNY HUAT ah!, General talks on Racing/road bikes

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post Jan 31 2013, 12:54 PM

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speaking bout classics .. any idea/info about amelio bianchi bikes ? It's supposedly a columbus SLX and kitted out entirely with Dura Ace 7400. Backside itchy to try a classic/steel frame bike blush.gif

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post Jan 31 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 31 2013, 01:08 PM)
it's a bianchi i think.... maybe an earlier variation of the name...

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this is not a steel frame but, a damn famous one ridden by il pirata...most famous during the marco pantani era, an alloy custom hand built Reparto Corse...
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that's what I thought as well but there's a cinelli logo at the bottom of the frame and the forks has AB on it

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post Feb 5 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 5 2013, 10:12 AM)
ah! how to clean chains very clean enough?

guess my method is not clean enough....
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this definitely works .. sure clean kow kow drool.gif
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post Feb 11 2013, 02:08 PM

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wishing everyone gong xi fa chai ... may the snake bring awesome stuff for all the pedalphiles here !!! hahahah
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post Feb 18 2013, 07:33 AM

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hey guys ... was thinking of upgrading wheels and budget doesn't cover exotic stuff such as enve or zipps cry.gif

So far I've been looking at fulcrum racing 3, mavic ksyrium sl/elite, campy zonda, dura ace 7850/7900 c24,easton ea90 sl. These wheels are within my budget and i've spent the weekend trying to read reviews about them. From what I've gathered, it's expensive to repair/replace spokes on the fulcrum. Mavic ksyrium, depends on luck .. some are bombproof some are lemons yawn.gif the zonda is basically like the fulcrum with different rear spoke design ? and so far there's been little or no complaints about the dura ace and apparently good value for money.

Does anyone have any experience with any of these wheelsets or any other recommendation ? Basically want a lighter wheelset for climbing and lower rolling resistance compared to my stock alex dc19 rims. Also with the current wheels I really have to fight crosswinds and it's scary especially if there's a vehicle that comes between me and the crosswind while descending shocking.gif Will changing rims help with this or make this situation even worse ? icon_question.gif

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post Feb 18 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Feb 18 2013, 09:24 AM)
budget limit?
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should be in the RM 1.5-1.8k range
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post Feb 18 2013, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 18 2013, 11:10 AM)
fulcrum racing 3 - spokes are not as expensive as R1 or R0... but at local price here of almost RM1.8k... i might be thinking of upping my limit to fit the R1 in as the R1 is stiffer with the broad aluminum spokes, not necessarily a whole lot lighter but the stiffness makes a difference if you need it.. replacement spokes on the R3 are more expensive than conventional spokes but not as bad as R1 and R0 which is over RM50 per piece...

mavic ksyrium elite - would be the most sensible wheel for the price paid, spoke replacement might be a worry if you don't have a mavic shop nearby and it might not be as cheap as normal spoke although not exorbitant in price. I think price of SLS (SL is no longer available in 2013 range i believe) might be out of question unless you are willing to increase until beyond RM2k...

campy zonda - problem of having to invest in an extra shimano freehub if your shop does not have one already built with shimano freehub (which they are mostly not) due to it being built for riders running campy components, quite light but not worth price paid

shimano c24 -  don't think a new set is within your budget... the ones we see sold at RM1k - RM1.5k on BBS are stolen sets from shimano factory in johor. New ones especially C24 is much more than that....straight pull spokes reportedly weak with bulky riders and a pain to replace... not sure because of availability or price... for KL, it is both...

ea 90sl - reportedly a very tough wheel with 28r/24f spoking and quite feathery, heard of problems with the hub end cap tension adjustment... but not sure if it is true... and for the price of over 700 USD... makes you consider alternative options

the best is to know if the wheelset is well supported nearby or the shop you visit since lightweight wheelset tend to be less durable and you might want to be mentally prepared when shit happens... spoke breakages are more common in people who don't take care of their wheels... dented rims would mean immediate death, unless your shop stock up on replacement parts.. bearings would be the last to go and mostly due to natural reasons...

i think it is safe to say any of your listed wheels are confirmed a better than your alex wheels... in terms of both rolling resistance and also spin up rate...aero characteristics i would not demand much since no alloy wheels have more than 30 mm of height or it will be massively heavy and negate the purpose of the upgrade in the first place... and 30mm might not make much difference compared to a 24mm model...crosswind wise, unless you have some 404 or 808 type of height, i don't think it's a worry or safe to say you won't become another andy schleck...you might have to put some thoughts on what you prioritize...lightweight or aero? the unfortunate thing is alloy wheels will always not be aero...

or you can look into SRAM S30 wheels as it has torroidal shape copied from old zipps... if it is still around...
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wow .. thanks for the input. Appreciate it rclxms.gif Now I have an idea what to expect with any of these wheelsets. There was a fulcrum zero that was sold for less than RM 2k last week doh.gif As for the c24, it's the older model 7850/7900 and not the latest 9000 Dura ace hence the cheaper price.

Guess at the end of the day, the most important thing is local support and availability of parts ie spokes. Cost of repair would come second I guess. I know for sure there's a number of shops that does provide support for mavic ksyrium wheels. Will have to ask how much they charge for spokes + workmanship.

I'm not going for any TT so I guess at the moment aero is of no concern, plus the wheelset will also be used for daily commute which means it will be exposed to rain/dust and carbon/deep dish attracts too much attention sweat.gif

Have looked at sram s30 and can be bought from US stores for around my budget including shipping but those low spoke counts has me a little worried sweat.gif

I've also considered buying local wheels and have narrowed it down to pro-lite bracciano. Those who use it swear by it and the plus point is it's below my budget thumbup.gif

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post Feb 19 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 18 2013, 03:03 PM)
yes, i mean you can't get the old ones anyways... so it's the new ones that has the C35 in the line up and the price has not wavered since a couple of years back... it is a good wheel, but just not nifty enough to get people's attention like the more zingy zipps, reynolds, and the likes...

wow, you sure you want to get such an expensive wheel to commute??? a tree branch up your spokes and it will be catastrophic... maybe you can look into getting one more cassette and maintaining your alex wheels for commuting and the other set for more serious riding...

workmanship i won't worry as they can't slaughter you on wheel truing, or can't slaughter you much... and low spoke count is the way to go nowadays, unfortunately... you just have to go with the trend or live in the shadow...

yeah, pro-lite is supposedly a very cheap wheel...but if we buy it via ebay.. the shipping charges included lets us think of more expensive wheels...
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heh the idea of the rims/spokes being destroyed while riding/commuting never came across my mind. The only thing that I thought about was getting hit by another vehicle or ramming into a vehicle door when it's suddenly opened sweat.gif

Most of the time I ride on bike paths but yes the possibility of twigs/branches getting to the spokes is highly possible. Dang .. back to the drawing board lol On another note most of these wheelsets are in the AUD 500-600 range which is like saving AUD 20 a day to get it in a month thumbup.gif so I wouldn't really consider them very expensive.

Instead of getting new wheelsets I think I should go get a proper bike fit instead of the basic fit that was provided by the LBS. Increasing efficiency and comfort on the bike will pay more in the long run I guess.

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post Feb 19 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 19 2013, 01:02 PM)
is saving AUD 20 per day not a lot??? sounds like a lot to me... or maybe because in my mind i convert the currency...

if it is a car door... i would have more worries than just the wheel alone..

anyways... get what you can afford... jake gyllenhall would not cringe at destroying a set of zipp because he can afford to stock multiple sets in his home garage.. heck, he might even change it just because of a tiny scratch that damage the zipp stickers....

but, you and me have to think twice on buying expensive gear to abuse....let alone to commute... and maybe leaving it under the sun or to the thieves..

well, i am always a skeptic of bike fit... unless you know certain things that you can pinpoint or want to correct (like a bad back on long riding days)... going to a fitter would be pointless... since you have no objective and you end up just listen to depending on how you view it... advise / BS
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yeah it's a lot of you convert but if it's dollar for dollar it's considered affordable I guess; benefit of earning local currency. Come to think of it RM 600 can't buy much back home especially when considering wheelsets but for AUD 500-600 there are more than a handful of selection.

As for bike fit, I've read that poorly fitted cleats/clipless do more harm than good hence why I thought getting a proper fit would be a good idea. Also, I've damaged my knee/ligament/alignment before and don't want to aggravate the condition. There's so many variables in a bike fit including riders flexibility plus the damn bike fit is not cheap either rclxub.gif
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post Feb 21 2013, 04:22 PM

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Ouch ouch ouch just experienced my first crash since ive been riding 800+km ago.. wtf wtf wtf ... was rushing back home coz it was about to rain and it had already drizzled previously so the roads were slightly wet. Was approaching a roundabout which I go through daily and have even done so in the pouring rain before. As I was turning in the roundabout.. taking a 9 of clock turn .. I leaned in slightly and felt the front sliding and before I knew it I was on the road ... I think my right knee hit the top tube as I was falling and majority of the force was taken by my right wrist and right knee as I crashed onto tarmac ... bike looks OK and after giving it a look over I noticed the right bar tape near the drops are torn/scratched .. front right brake lever also ate tarmac ... rear derailleur looks fine ... majority of the impact was taken by the right pedal ...

Now right wrist and knee hurts like f*** .. just glad that there wasn't any car close to me when that happened

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post Feb 22 2013, 12:32 PM

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thanks everyone for the well wishes. Will definitely be riding a lot slower on wet roads in the future. Had to commute this morning despite the aches and bruises. Such is the life of a commuter who relies on the bike to get around ..

On another note .. this came in the mail cool2.gif

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post Feb 25 2013, 06:47 AM

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Completed my maiden 50km charity bike ride yesterday. Was quite an experience considering it's the furthest distance i've ridden thus far blush.gif Had a few climbs that were torturous and despite being in the lowest gear it was a difficult climb. Overall was a good ride saw a few riders with carbon/fancy wheels at the side of the road repairing their puncture hmm.gif

Glad my tyres pulled me through without any dramas rclxms.gif Next up a century ride ?? sweat.gif definitely needs lotsa training for that

Here's some photos from the ride if anyone's interested in having a look

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post Feb 26 2013, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 26 2013, 02:19 AM)
for rm8k... it will be guilty for being un-sexy...

paired spokes always look nice... especially the carbon monocoques like this corima winiums

i will be happy given the normal aluminum spoked ones
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correct me if i'm wrong .. but to my untrained eyes that frame looks a wee bit too small for him ??
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post Feb 26 2013, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 25 2013, 09:54 AM)
you don't need training as long as you are physically active...

just don't follow the pace of the fast riders and go according to what you can afford to churn out...
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learned that the hard way in the last ride. Ego was bruised with kids with their carbon bikes overtook me climbing hills. Tried to give chase but obviously failed. They were training or something cause there were 3 of them in their team kit and they overtook so many people on the hill blush.gif

I always wondered if seasoned riders find climbing hill less painful or they go through the same amount of pain except it ends quicker coz they climb faster ? unsure.gif

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post Mar 6 2013, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Mar 6 2013, 12:50 AM)
I bought the go pro 3 black edition..the hd recording was awesome! I put it on a 3km test ride around my neighbourhood. Check the video if you have 10min to waste, there will be some sexy chicks caught on tape (just to lure u guys..but really there are some nice chicks in it) tongue.gif

P/s: i call it the crotch cam!
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a link to the video would help
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post Mar 8 2013, 11:59 AM

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i think no need to have cam at crotch to capture action kua



bike made out of car parts !!



since it's international womens day here's one celebrating them



now back to your regular programming icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 12 2013, 11:03 AM)
won't the wind from the vents cause discomfort?
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it was kinda weird at first but you'll get used to it and the way it's designed the wind doesn't go directly into your eyes .. just feel more ventilated .. hehe btw mine still fogs up especially early in the morning when the temperature is still a little cool but only when you stop at traffic lights etc. Clears up once you start riding again thumbup.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 01:00 PM

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flying or riding a bike ?

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custom made steel bike
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post Mar 15 2013, 12:50 PM

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someone posted this in FB ... hilarious laugh.gif

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post Mar 15 2013, 03:21 PM

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Just wondering what's the general lifespan of roadbike tyres ? Any mileage estimation ? I've just done 1000km and can see that the rear tyre is starting to square off. Do people swap the front/rear tyre on road bikes ?

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