If you go wholesale or Thai - they are much much cheaper about RM 3000 @ USD 800-1000 you can get one already !!

Getting them in legally , paper work ....... middle man need to mark up .......

Yni ( cant be legally owned in most case ) cant be compared with Aldabra ( can be legally owned and legally bred elsewhere - takes years many years to mature to reproduce thus the higher price ? )


Most sp that are sold in Malaysian market can reproduced in under 10 years - Aldabra takes about 15-20 years to do that .

Thank you, Sifu SAMPERTH..

I learned another new thing today..

I have a few european friends telling me that there are some rich collectors who are willing to dish out Euro 100k for legal baby Yni with paper trail - compare that with RM 10 k egyptian ( i doubt this pricing thou ) or RM 9xxx for aldabran

About same price from US collectors but in USD !! Thats how rare Yni are in non asian country !! If can afford buy before its too late ( maybe already too late as harder to sight one in market nowadays as compared to few years back )

10k is not for BABY.

Its for 7-10 years old healthy tortoise.

Yniphora is really one majestic looking creatures.

For Aldabra, do you happened to have in your vast collection Samperth? How hard to get the legal paper for this tortoise?

Is this what you mean bro?

Black soil + something + something? Without pesticide

Huh? What is "+ something + something"?

To make it simple: Usually I just go to any nursery, tell them I need black soil mixed with coconut coil without any pesticide added. To save your concern, it's better to go to a nursery that you can trust.

The above is just my way. It might be wrong. Better to get the opinion of other forumers who are more experience. I'm only under-a-year tortoise keeper..

http://www.adpost.com/my/pets/76172/

http://www.adpost.com/my/pets/74220/

All say come with license - should ask them instead !!

And Ya on the Aldabra !!

Double checked regarding the existance of pesticide in this soil - its none.

I am concern if they use animal poop as fertilizer, like a bat poop or something. I am afraid that will bring harm to my tortoise health. So as precaution, I only cover 1/5 of the total area with this soil and see his development.

So far everything is good

Hey, that's a nice enclosure!

Is it indoor? Mind to take a better pic to see the whole thing?

Tq..

Agreed. More pics please!

Yes, indoor as my tortoise is unsuitable for outdoor enclosure.

Here to overall view;




This is before I attached my UVB

Will post the latest setting soon.

Hi Mr. Doctor,

Mind to share the size of this enclosure?

Tq again..

7.5ft. x 5 ft. x 0.5 ft. Its the minimum size for mature tortoise. Will build bigger soon as I found appropriate plastic enclosure (really having a hard time searching for this).

The side is short so I have to put indoor fence but this little fella is too lazy to climb over

Wow, that is big for an indoor enclosure.

Mind to share where to get such a big plastic tank? Mind is only 3ft x 2ft and I put it at my balcony..

Mind you that my enclosure is the minimal for ONE, MATURE tortoise. The bigger the happier they will be.

I just purchase from hardware shop. But let me teach you the tips and trick for indoor enclosure when you face the difficulties in finding the appropriate container size;

1 - Find a brick. A construction brick, commonly reddish-orange in color or simply the white, crappy and brittle one. Either type will do.
2 - Arrange in square or rectangular, but use my size as minimal measurement (unless you are keeping sulcata, which is very much better to set an outdoor enclosure).
3 - Go to any hardware store or stationary store or botanical store, buy a plastic cover. Like curtain shower or the one that people use to cover car or raincoat.
4 - Cover the base and sides of the arranged brick.
5 - Put your substrate and arrange the setting as you like!

Hope my tips somehow helps your tortoise to be happier!

Many thanks to you, Mr. Doctor.

I wish I can do that but currently I'm staying in a condo. I have already sueeze two 3ft x 2ft fiber tanks & a cage of about the same size. Can you imagine how cramp it is? Plus I have to deal with a gf who keeps nagging on my tortoises..

I have to do it slowing 1 step at a time in order to have perfect hearing in my old years..

Hahaha tell me about it. My gf also keep on sulking about me and my tortoise

About the spacing, I afraid it far too small for your tortoise. If you happened to have an extra room (reading room/washing room), maybe you can let them wandering around the room? Just make sure you vaccum and remove the dust ESPECIALLY hair because it may cause impaction if they eaten such thing.

You can somehow potty-train them. Not too precise, but at least they know when a specific time for them to poop.

You have to soak them on the same time, everyday, for approximately the similar duration (15-30 minutes, replace the water twice). My tortoise will poop during the soaking and then very uncommon for him to poop after that. Hence the room should be quite clean from their excrement.