Haha, tq for your advice.
Too bad I don't have any extra room (staying ina studio).
Already I kena up, down, left, right for soaking them in the bathtub..
Waiting for next yr moving to a landed house with big garden..

All my tortoises poop as and when they are happy.
I work long hours and soaking of 4 tortoises separately take up at least an hr plus..

Bro Dagashi, may I know which substance that you use as substrate?

May I know why soaking separately? Small container?

Sorry, I mean I soak my star & leopard separately. Sometimes my leopard poop so much that I have to change the water again. And yes, container is too small as 1 of my leopard is more than 9 inches.. and eat like a monster..

Is it ok if they poop and we continue to let them stay in the water & drink it?

Occasionally it is acceptable as their poop have certain flora that will enhance their digestive system

LOL.. Wonder why we humans don't do it then..

We have different needs and different methods

By the way, I am having a hard time searching for subtable substrate replacement from hay to either coconut coir OR crushed oyster shell. I prefer the first one since the second one MIGHT lead to disimpaction in some cases.

You mean you want only coconut coil?
In that case, may I humbly suggest you can go any wet market and look for vendors selling coconut. Ask them to sell you the coconut coil (should be cheap) since they will throw it away.
Just my idea..

Found it locally! @ http://www.exoreptiles.com/my/index.php?ma...products_id=424

This was on my wishlist previously but too expensive to be use alone (unless someone want to share lol) @ http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Canna-Coco-Coir...=item232a74f9b8

RM2 is very cheap leh..

Purchased 10 already

Btw so silent here

Damn, I still see red worms in my turtle tank

Haiz.. that's what I think too. Not much of a learnign experience.
Foreign groups are so much more active..

By the way, did you pruchase online? If not, where to go & buy?
Thank you..

Gone are the days !! Everyone nowadays more active on their FaceB .........T ...... account !!

BTW just a point on the Coconut coir and peat stuff as substrate - These used with the sole or main benefit of retaining or maintaining moisture thus humidity in the enclosure !!

BUT I thought Egyptian Tortoise from Habitat and ecology

Kleinmann's tortoises live in deserts and semiarid habitats, usually with compact sand and gravel plains, scattered rocks, shallow, sandy wadis, dry woodlands, shrubby areas, and coastal salt marsh habitats. In captivity, they eat grasses, fruits, and vegetables, but the diets of wild tortoises are unknown.
They are least active when the weather is very cold or very hot. During the colder months, they are out most during midday. During the warm season, they are active in the mornings and evenings. The rest of the day is spent under bushes or in rodent burrows.


Thus do they need the extra humidity when our average air humidity is higher then in their native range ?

Yep. I am preferring other forum as well, but their information always hard to relate locally - eg where to find stuff.

More humble and much friendly too!

On the website that I posted before.

Click order and wait for the conformation email to do the payment!

Hi,

I will not use the peat to cover all part of the enclosure, just roughly 1/5 of the total surface. I am well aware that this little dude need 20-30% humidity, 12 hours minimum of basking as well as 28-33 degree Celsius for optimum growth

Ok point taken !! Mine on paper pellets , watering done outside 3 times a week , heat provided from above , no extra decoration just a few hide so no competition - so far so good for the past 6 yrs !!

I only have 3 years experience for only one species of tortoise.

Boss, you use Mazuri how many % in your tortoises routine diet? I did read feeding Mazuri ONLY (+sufficient hydration to prevent calcium deposition on kidney) to enough for the nutrient support. But still, variation of greens will help the tortoise happier.

Mazuri i wean off after 6 mths too costly for so many mouths !!

Even when feeding mazuri about 40% only , the rest green only ( dry sp) and with fruits ( tropical sp )