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Apis_LuaLua
post Jan 14 2013, 04:49 PM

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As you can see from the pm i sent to chin_kh, i sold him an ap set and not sme set claim as ap. Between both of us, we know who is right and who is wrong.


that PM shot u sent just recently u claim as a proof? funny. doh.gif

Do u think you are soooo FAIR to buy back at market price after almost 8 months? while he paid u for SME set price 8 months back?

The only solution u hv now is to advertise your stuff elsewhere.

And if i want to pick up my competitor, i will pick the like of fazli77, ken6828, liquid_ooze, siemens6688. Not you mr dispute tag holder. In fact, i never hv a competitor, all honest and good seller here in this forum is my fren, not a competitor.

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post Jan 14 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Jan 14 2013, 04:49 PM)
that PM shot u sent just recently u claim as a proof? funny.  doh.gif

Do u think you are soooo FAIR to buy back at market price after almost 8 months? while he paid u for SME set price 8 months back?

The only solution u hv now is to advertise your stuff elsewhere.

And if i want to pick up my competitor, i will pick the like of fazli77, ken6828, liquid_ooze, siemens6688. Not you mr dispute tag holder. In fact, i never hv a competitor, all honest and good seller here in this forum is my fren, not a competitor.
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Jan 14 2013, 12:41 PM)
Ok. i take it. Tq mr dispute tag holder.  laugh.gif
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Even though you called me Mr. Dispute Tag which is very rude indeed. Shame on you, call people as that nick name. Is this a mod should behave??? hmm.gif Again, this show you are bias and abusing your power, just simply to humiliate a person.
If you realized that you have competitors though you said they are your friends, then why you still sell and become a mod/trade enforcer? Absolutely this is called conflict of interest.

Others dont complain about you doesnt mean they are afraid, just because you can abuse your power and simply ruin one's business. Personally, i dont have anything against you, but your ethic as a mod really is questionable. How can a mod call a person like that? You should respect other in order others to respect you. If you still want people to remind you about this, i think you should not be a mod at the first place. rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 14 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 14 2013, 04:59 PM)
Even though you called me Mr. Dispute Tag which is very rude indeed. Shame on you, call people as that nick name. Is this a mod should behave???  hmm.gif Again, this show you are bias and abusing your power, just simply to humiliate a person.
If you realized that you have competitors though you said they are your friends, then why you still sell and become a mod/trade enforcer? Absolutely this is called conflict of interest.

Others dont complain about you doesnt mean they are afraid, just because you can abuse your power and simply ruin one's business. Personally, i dont have anything against you, but your ethic as a mod really is questionable. How can a mod call a person like that? You should respect other in order others to respect you. If you still want people to remind you about this, i think you should not be a mod at the first place. rolleyes.gif
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Then who is the mod and who is the dispute tag holder now? rolleyes.gif

Btw, i will not reply anymore. Everyone here know who is nuts and who is not. who to blame and who are not. Good luck in selling my competitor. wub.gif
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:12 PM

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LOL. I had to reply

I'm not a fan of him, but Apis deserved to be more than a mod here
Do you know how much he had helped others? how many that had been saved from being cheated because of him?
He had not being biased at all, as you can see everybody is against you. They are not being biased, they've all gave you a chance, many chances, for the past 8 months, and you blew it.

YOU IGNORED THE THREAD FOR MORE THAN 8 MONTHS, FOR GOD SAKE!

So obviously, you are at fault here. Don't go complaining others for being bias.

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post Jan 14 2013, 05:43 PM

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Look, here's the thing... Have you proven to anyone that you hadn't claimed that your set is an AP set? There must be some misunderstanding between you and your buyer. Try talking to your buyer instead of complaining here and there and if you both can't come into peace, just return him the money and have your AP set back. Isn't that simple? And as for our moderator, I believe Apis isn't a bias person at all. I don't know about the rest but he definitely had helped me on my case. Show some proof before you write a dispute on somebody.
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Don't worry apis... everyone is on your side... this guy just try to make fun of you.. that's all
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post Jan 14 2013, 06:16 PM

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nk sibuk boleh? haha. tho i had someone complained on me too once b4.. frankly speaking i think everyone has helped make it more than loud n clear enough for this seller to understand.. the way i see it.. too obvious.. after 4 pages of replies.. i think this guy is either acting a fool or he really is one because first he kept on arguing the same point which was 2nd not relevant at all!

y bother so much to point ur finger to someone else whos not directly related to ur problem rather than actually trying to solve the problem u got urself into?? ur the seller n the buyer has got issues with u.. n i happen to be around n just simply say 'thats not right' then all of sudden u started arguing with with me n almost completely ignored ur buyer.

never been a seller in lyn b4 but this shud be pretty simple logic. clean up ur own mess la n if u cant why dun u just shut up n go away? ppl.. this guy is just wasting ur time.. same thing being said again n again n he's still foolishly trying to pull everyone's else attention to something not related at all.. most importantly not solving the problem at all.

just leave him with his new tag n let him do the 'barking' however he wants

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post Jan 14 2013, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 11 2013, 03:50 PM)
Hi apis, glad you reply to me. For the matter of fact, i wanted to pm but i think we should transparent for any conversation between us since im still accusing you being bias on this case. I wouldnt able to provide what you requested from me. Reason was all the conversation btwn mobile and the whole whatsapp was saved on my previous iphone 4. I sold the ip4 already and i format the whole ip4 before i sold it to the next buyer.

To show my sincerity, i'm willing to offer the lousy buyer to buy back the ap set with market price. In fact, i would not do that but i treat this as an exception case since this issue has dragged me for so long. I will try again to contact him again and end this evil plot once and for all.

You are right, no conman with a dispute tag holder will actively selling his gadgets here just because i'm not. Furthermore, stop harrassing my sales thread. I know you are doing your job but you are doing a wrong job at a wrong time. That's why i said you are bias. Can we settle this peacefully?

Sorry, i made this in public, as i want everyone to prove me wrong that you are not BIAS! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 14 2013, 04:59 PM)
Even though you called me Mr. Dispute Tag which is very rude indeed. Shame on you, call people as that nick name. Is this a mod should behave???  hmm.gif Again, this show you are bias and abusing your power, just simply to humiliate a person.
If you realized that you have competitors though you said they are your friends, then why you still sell and become a mod/trade enforcer? Absolutely this is called conflict of interest.

Others dont complain about you doesnt mean they are afraid, just because you can abuse your power and simply ruin one's business. Personally, i dont have anything against you, but your ethic as a mod really is questionable. How can a mod call a person like that? You should respect other in order others to respect you. If you still want people to remind you about this, i think you should not be a mod at the first place. rolleyes.gif
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Bolded the LOUSY BUYER there.

Looks like u treat your buyer by calling them names too, why cant people call u nick names which is less rude then u calling people lousy.. ??? doh.gif
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post Jan 14 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 14 2013, 04:59 PM)
Even though you called me Mr. Dispute Tag which is very rude indeed. Shame on you, call people as that nick name. Is this a mod should behave???  hmm.gif Again, this show you are bias and abusing your power, just simply to humiliate a person.
If you realized that you have competitors though you said they are your friends, then why you still sell and become a mod/trade enforcer? Absolutely this is called conflict of interest.

Others dont complain about you doesnt mean they are afraid, just because you can abuse your power and simply ruin one's business. Personally, i dont have anything against you, but your ethic as a mod really is questionable. How can a mod call a person like that? You should respect other in order others to respect you. If you still want people to remind you about this, i think you should not be a mod at the first place. rolleyes.gif
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No matter what u try to say, you are the major culprit now, nobody is on ur side not because you are not a mod, or you r a Shinning Dispute Tag holder, you ruin ur own reputation by :~

1) calling ppl nuts,
2) call ppl lousy buyer which actually u r the worst,
3) keep saying mod Apis bias which he's not, totally not
4) no bothered to the previous case
5) no bothered to all the ppl over this thread & the previous, we r those who trying to help, even mod Apis, but u never see

Look at my case, after one year, when I ask for help and checking, he go all out to go thru the whole case, and came out with evidence, he help ppl all out man, i respect that seriously, and this is what we call it sincere, helpful, fair... and compare with u, ur attitude prove to everyone, I don't want to say it further.

Learn from ur mistake, and always look back on urself, don't point figure to others, I hope u will learn this time, i will not comment in this thread anymore as well, live as u like, all the best.

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post Jan 14 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 14 2013, 04:15 PM)
Dear Admin,

Thanks for replying me. In fact i have done my best to settle this case though i'm not in the wrong position. As you can see from the pm i sent to chin_kh, i sold him an ap set and not sme set claim as ap. Between both of us, we know who is right and who is wrong. The problem now is chin_kh ignore my pm & refused to settle this false dispute which started from him.

Now, apis sided on him and keep on pestering me that i was wrong and until the extend to claim me as conman/Mr. dispute tag holder. By law, no one is guilty until he is proven wrong.

Nevertheless, i realized the longer this issue drag, the more severe it will affect my genuine and ethic business here. I'm just a petty trader and wish to earn some for living and sometimes just to get rid of my excessive gadgets (sold without any profit gain). Apis not only dont give me opportunity but he go and poison my sales thread everyday. Like old saying, "pour sand into one's rice bowl".

For the matter of fact, i respect each moderator/admin/staff of lowyat as they doing an impeccable service without any fees. Kudos to all of them but unfortunately, apis did bias and because of conflict of interest, he tend to be bias. Give you an example, i sold Note 2 and he also sell Note 2. In order to sell off the Note 2, buyers will also consider pricing, service after sales and one's credibility. By comparison, apis is a seller and also a trade enforcer or mod, so people will definitely listen to what he claim/posted/comment. For my case, he poison all my sales thread in order for others (buyers) to buy his Note 2. Now, can you see the case clearly here? hmm.gif

I will respect with salute more if you can refrain/stop all the mods & trade enforcer to sell due to conflict of interest. Then i call this is fair and the garage sales forum would be a better place to deal and no bias. smile.gif

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Do you any prove that you did told the seller than it is an AP set instead of sme? Any prove? hmm.gif


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post Jan 14 2013, 08:22 PM

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kalau dalam game bolasepak...pemain mau complain pengadil...sudah lama ini org kena buang padang ooo.....hahaha
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post Jan 14 2013, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(shufaz @ Jan 14 2013, 05:12 PM)
LOL. I had to reply

I'm not a fan of him, but Apis deserved to be more than a mod here
Do you know how much he had helped others? how many that had been saved from being cheated because of him?
He had not being biased at all, as you can see everybody is against you. They are not being biased, they've all gave you a chance, many chances, for the past 8 months, and you blew it.

YOU IGNORED THE THREAD FOR MORE THAN 8 MONTHS, FOR GOD SAKE!

So obviously, you are at fault here. Don't go complaining others for being bias.
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post Jan 14 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 14 2013, 04:59 PM)
If you realized that you have competitors though you said they are your friends, then why you still sell and become a mod/trade enforcer? Absolutely this is called conflict of interest.
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You say that conflict of interest... as far as i know apis already a seller before he promoted to mods... I still remember I congrats him a few days after the promotion.
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Dah habis ke?
What i can see is, this guy try to find a solution/place to complain and found the wrong one..
Nobody listen with both ear(unless i missread somewhere), and he forced to walk away...
Sometime i really pity TS...but i dont know which is true...
Silent is a bliss..


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QUOTE(Monosakai @ Jan 15 2013, 05:26 AM)
Dah habis ke?
What i can see is, this guy try to find a solution/place to complain and found the wrong one..
Nobody listen with both ear(unless i missread somewhere), and he forced to walk away...
Sometime i really pity TS...but i dont know which is true...
Silent is a bliss..
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Before you comment that you pity the TS pls read the comments that he ignored his customer complain for ard 8 months.
Now after having a dispute tag only he decides to reply.

Who would you pity? TS or his customer that didn't get any response from him for so many months.
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QUOTE(Monosakai @ Jan 15 2013, 05:26 AM)
Dah habis ke?
What i can see is, this guy try to find a solution/place to complain and found the wrong one..
Nobody listen with both ear(unless i missread somewhere), and he forced to walk away...
Sometime i really pity TS...but i dont know which is true...
Silent is a bliss..
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i sappork apis on this one. u dun settle the case with the buyer u will remain having the dispute tag. gudluk with that.
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post Jan 15 2013, 11:43 AM

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To summarize the whole thing again and answer all of your doubts:

1. chin_kh opened a false complain on me.
2. I ignore him because it's baseless and untrue.
3. apis sided on chin_kh and kacau my thread everyday
4. Due to apis influence and abuse of power, admin awarded me a dispute tag
5. apis tease me with Mr. Dispute tag holder nick name
6. I try hard to resolve this matter with chin_kh with pm
7. chin_kh ignored all my pm to him

Again, i repeat that I sold ap set to chin_kh and not sme claim as ap. He made up the whole story and by virtue i refused to reply on his absurd complain thread, he used that to blind apis into believing his created fairy tale. Apis without listening to both side (as he is BIAS) commented/posted/criticized my selling thread everyday.

As a fair mod, apis suppose to investigate the case thoroughly and seek clarification from both side. But due to BIASNESS and CONFLICT OF INTEREST, he tend to ruin my image and credibility here. Moreover, as a mod, he cant tease or humiliate someone by calling MR. Dispute tag holder. He should somehow show respect and at least understand the basic of calling a person.

I wonder what apis told the admin, Se7en about my case but i believe Se7en should voice his stand here why he given me the dispute tag. This will be fair on the check and balance. If apis told Se7en (admin) to issue me dispute tag and he without finding the right facts and eventually awarded me the tag, then this will be very unfair to me.

The reason why i didnt reply on chin_kh's false thread is the complain is baseless and I really look stupid if i reply. For example, a stranger accused you for conviction of crime in facebook, knowing the fact that it was untrue and baseless. Then, is it necessarily to explain why you did not do it? By right i can complain back that the false thread created by chin_kh to admin or mod which what am i doing right now.

Let us go back to the initial objective of having a dispute and trade zone forum. Simple, to assist people from getting con or any negative incidents. But the point is whether there is any check and balance or clarification made whether the complain thread is genuine or not??? hmm.gif For my case, the false complain thread created by chin_kh was a story told by him alone. I felt it was utterly untrue and i refused to reply. But apis concluded i refuse to defend myself. But apis never ask me why i refused to answer the false thread. Eventually i told apis why but he insisted to side on chin_kh.

Overall, this is why i open a complain thread against apis_LuaLua, being BIAS on my case and have conflict of business due to his identity as a seller and a trade enforcer.... nod.gif
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jan 15 2013, 11:43 AM)
To summarize the whole thing again and answer all of your doubts:

1. chin_kh opened a false complain on me.
2. I ignore him because it's baseless and untrue.
3. apis sided on chin_kh and kacau my thread everyday
4. Due to apis influence and abuse of power, admin awarded me a dispute tag
5. apis tease me with Mr. Dispute tag holder nick name
6. I try hard to resolve this matter with chin_kh with pm
7. chin_kh ignored all my pm to him

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post Jan 15 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Jan 15 2013, 11:50 AM)
what comes around goes around... whistling.gif
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ok, then should chin_kh also should be tag as dispute tag holder like me? Reason, he ignored all my pm... hmm.gif

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