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post Jan 26 2013, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 25 2013, 08:42 PM)
There are some notebooks that come with IPS screens, but unfortunately most of them are not really meant for photo editing sad.gif
For Dell, can consider the Inspiron 15R SE nod.gif
15.6"
Dell Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 32GB SSD + 1TB HDD(5400rpm)@RM3199, 8GB,backlit keyboard optional, W7HP/W8

or

Dell Vostro 3560, i7-3632QM + AMD HD7670M + 32GB SSD + 750GB(7200rpm) HDD + (1920x1080)@RM3209[2.57kg], 8GB, W7HB; colors: red/silver/bronze

*Vostro is budget-business line model, and comes entirely in matte, pretty useful if don't like fingerprints on the chassis laugh.gif
*use remaining money to extend warranty to 3 years on-site. And also upgrade the HDD to a full SSD (256GB should be enough). Having a fast SSD will help improve Photoshop loadtimes significantly  brows.gif
*8GB RAM is more than enough, so noneed to upgrade anymore, save the money for something else  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I was looking around and seems like the Lenovo Y500 is a nice alternative to both Dell above? And I noticed those Vostro cannot purchase directly from Dell's website? sad.gif

QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jan 25 2013, 10:06 PM)
Yes, plenty smile.gif
For example:
Asus Zenbook Prime, Envy Spectre XT 13, Envy Spectre 14, Dell Precision, HP Elitebook ...
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Thanks! Was looking at the price for Dell Precision, seems like Dell website don't sell them directly to end users?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 26 2013, 08:37 AM)
I was looking around and seems like the Lenovo Y500 is a nice alternative to both Dell above? And I noticed those Vostro cannot purchase directly from Dell's website? sad.gif
Thanks! Was looking at the price for Dell Precision, seems like Dell website don't sell them directly to end users?
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Yeah, Y500 is a good choice as well if you don't mind the more striking looks laugh.gif
For Vostro, Latitude and Precision units, you have to directly chat with Dell sales agents (there is a "Chat with a Dell Sales Agent" button in the website) and get price quotes directly from them nod.gif
It seems like Dell is trying to make it harder for regular comsumers to purchase these business-line notebooks... no idea why though rclxub.gif
You can also find "devour" or perhaps even "viper88" from Garage Sales as well for price quotes nod.gif

The Dell Precisions are probably out of your budget, really good, but really expensive sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2013, 11:56 AM

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Hello all the sifus!
Can I know which one is better in term of performance and their pros and cons.
Asus A45vs vs lenovo z480 vs dell inspiron 14r SE


And for my sister I'm thinking of buying her lenovo g485. Is there any other laptop that have similar/better performance in this range of price? Not more than rm1500. Just for school work and watching videos...
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QUOTE(dk999 @ Jan 24 2013, 10:11 PM)
Looking for a light 14 or 15 inch laptop for normal office usage (no gaming)
Any brand is  allowed, better if more reliable brands. Budget rm3k with office.

What are the good choices
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QUOTE(dk999 @ Jan 25 2013, 10:20 PM)
If looking at value for $$ or lightness, which are as good/better than dell?

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Acer
M5-481TG-53316G12, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT640M LE (28nm Kepler) + 128GB SSD@RM2899[1.85kg], 6GB, W7HP

Asus
K46CM-WX090H, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT635M@RM2199[2kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8, OD

HP
Envy4-1111TX, i5-3317U + AMD HD7670M + [32GB mSATA + 500GB(5400rpm)]@RM2599[Beats][1.75kg], 4GB, W8

Lenovo
S400, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 24GB mSATA + 500GB(5400rpm)@RM1999[1.8kg], 4GB, W7HB; AMD HD7450M/W8@RM2199

Samsung
NP530U4C, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT620M + 24GB mSATA + 1TB HDD@RM2999[1.81kg], 6GB, ODD, W8

Toshiba
Satellite U940-1001X, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT630M + 32GB mSATA + 640GB HDD@RM2699[1.7kg], 4GB, W8, backlit keyboard

Take your pick. These are 14" "ultrabook" that within your budget.
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QUOTE(medwolf @ Jan 26 2013, 11:56 AM)
Hello all the sifus!
Can I know which one is better in term of performance and their pros and cons.
Asus A45vs vs lenovo z480 vs dell inspiron 14r SE
And for my sister I'm thinking of buying her lenovo g485. Is there any other laptop that have similar/better performance in this range of price? Not more than rm1500. Just for school work and watching videos...
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A45VS-VX026H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT645M@RM2199[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8
Inspiron 14R (Special Edition), i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M(28nm Kepler)@RM2049[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), W7HP/W8
Z480, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM2099, 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm) W8, colors: grey/red/blue

In terms of performance - all 3 are even steven smile.gif
Z480 has the largest HDD, but you could easily ask re-sellers to throw in the HDD upgrade (price differential < RM100) for free if you negotiate for the other models.
A45VS has less RAM, but again, can get re-sellers to upgrade RAM (4G stick ~ RM80) for free smile.gif
Dell has the better warranty support service (NBD onsite). Asus / Lenovo has the longer warranty period (2 years).
Other than these, it is just a matter of aesthetic and personal preference (colour, screen, keyboard, touchpad, general look and feel ...) which only you can determine.

G485, E300 + AMD HD@RM999, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS; W8@RM1099
Not much alternative at this price point sweat.gif But the AMD E300 is about Intel Atom level, maybe can consider these:
Lenovo
G480, B830 + Intel HD3000@RM999, 2GB, 500GB (5400rpm), FreeDOS; W8@RM1199
Dell
Inspiron 14, B820 + Intel HD@RM999[2.1kg], 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8

If you increase your budget to RM1.5k:
Dell
Inspiron 14-3421, i3-3217U + Intel HD4000@RM1449[1.99kg], Win8SL, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), 4-cell
HP
Pavilion Sleekbook 14-b051TU, i3-2367M + Intel HD3000@RM1499, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8
Lenovo
Z485, A8-4500M + AMD HD7450M@RM1599, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8
G480, i3-3110M + Nvidia GT635M@RM1499, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS
G480, i5-3210M + Intel HD4000@RM1499, 2GB, 500GB (5400rpm), FreeDOS
S400, i3-2365M + AMD HD7450M@RM1699[1.8kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HB
Samsung
NP370R4E, i3-3110M + Intel HD4000@RM1699, 4GB, 500GB, W8

Price are RSP, negotiable.
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post Jan 26 2013, 12:34 PM

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Thanks for the reply. notworthy.gif

May I know comparing

XPS 14, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT630M + 32GB mSATA+ 500GB(5400rpm) HDD + (1600x900)@RM3749[2.1kg], 4GB, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, W8

and

Envy [Ultrabook] (Spectre) 14-3111TU, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + (1600x900 Radiance) + 128GB SSD@RM3999[1.8kg], 4GB

which one would u recommend?
Cuz currently I'm using a HP laptop, yes i clean up the heat sink frequently but still it always overheat.
Read online and it says that HP are poor in the cooling system..

So i think dell xps 14 is a better choice?


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post Jan 26 2013, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Jan 26 2013, 12:34 PM)
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Thanks for the reply.Ā  notworthy.gif

May I know comparing

XPS 14, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT630M + 32GB mSATA+ 500GB(5400rpm) HDD + (1600x900)@RM3749[2.1kg], 4GB, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, W8

and

Envy [Ultrabook] (Spectre) 14-3111TU, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + (1600x900 Radiance) + 128GB SSD@RM3999[1.8kg], 4GB

which one would u recommend?
Cuz currently I'm using a HP laptop, yes i clean up the heat sink frequently but still it always overheat.
Read online and it says that HP are poor in the cooling system..

So i think dell xps 14 is a better choice?
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Mind telling us which old HP model that you have now?
Have you tried re-applying thermal paste?

Between the 2:
XPS14 - has a more powerful GPU, come in handy when you do something more graphically intensive. Spill resistant keyboard is good. I also find the keyboard in this has good feedback. Dell has better warranty support.
Envy Spectre 14 - ligther. The Radiance screen is nice (viewing angle, colour ... ). Full SSD, so responsiveness is better than the XPS 14 spec.

Ultrabook, due to the thinness, actually has even less space to dissipate heat compare to normal laptop.
But generally, don't hear too many complaint regarding these 2 models in terms of heat.
I strongly suggest you go out and look and feel these 2 models. Some people simply fall in love with the Spectre 14 smile.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jan 26 2013, 12:54 PM)
Mind telling us which old HP model that you have now?
Have you tried re-applying thermal paste?

Between the 2:
XPS14 - has a more powerful GPU, come in handy when you do something more graphically intensive. Spill resistant keyboard is good. I also find the keyboard in this has good feedback. Dell has better warranty support.
Envy Spectre 14 - ligther. The Radiance screen is nice (viewing angle, colour ... ). Full SSD, so responsiveness is better than the XPS 14 spec.

Ultrabook, due to the thinness, actually has even less space to dissipate heat compare to normal laptop.
But generally, don't hear too many complaint regarding these 2 models in terms of heat.
I strongly suggest you go out and look and feel these 2 models. Some people simply fall in love with the Spectre 14 smile.gif
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using HP G42 series. Havent try to change the thermal paste yet. It's only exactly 2 years old.
I reformat it back into factory settings, put it on idle, the temperature is about 40++ degree celcius. How is that even possible right?

XPS14 seems good with the 630M. Do u think it will overheat if i play only FIFA 13 on it?

If the cooling system is okay i might get XPS14 + upgrade the SSD if possible.

spectre looks like apple's macbook. design not innovative enough yawn.gif


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Preferred brand : Dell / Asus
Budget : Less than rm 2k
Usage : Programming and some gaming
Preferred screen size : 14' - 15.6'
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Preferred brand : Any reliable and quality brand
Budget : Less than rm 3k (is there monthly payment? im a nooby here sad.gif )
Usage : image editing, computer illustration, some 3d rendering, some video editing and gaming
Preferred screen size : 14'-15'

your help is really appreciated notworthy.gif
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Hi! So I was hoping I could get some recommendation on a laptop for me and my father.

1. Preferred Brand: Sony or Acer
2. Budget: 6000-8000 USD
3. Usage: playing on facebook, business travelling, browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 11.6-14"
5. Processors: I3 / I5 / I7
6. Preferred battery life: 6-cell, or at least 5 hours

I'm considering the some following options:
- Sony Vaio 14126
- Sony Vaio 14122
- Acer V3-471G
- Acer V5-471G

Could you please help me to decide..?

Many Thanks notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(~^*TyraeL*^~ @ Jan 26 2013, 01:10 PM)
Preferred brand : Dell / Asus
Budget : Less than rm 2k
Usage : Programming and some gaming
Preferred screen size : 14' - 15.6'
Thanks alot smile.gif
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14 inch
Asus
A45VS-VX026H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT645M@RM2199[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8
K46CM-WX090H, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT635M@RM2199[2kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8, OD

Lenovo Z480, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM2099, 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm) W8, colors: grey/red/blue

15.6 inch
Asus A55VD-SX520/521/522H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT610M@RM2149[2.52kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8; colors: white/blue/red

Dell
Inspiron 15R, i5-3317U + AMD HD8730M@RM2199[2.32kg], 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8SL
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i5-3210M + AMD HD7730M@RM2199, 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm); backlit keyboard optional, W7HP/W8

Lenovo
Ideapad Z580, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM2299, 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W7HB, white
Ideapad Z580, i7-3612QM + Nvidia GT640M@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), freeDOS, white
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QUOTE(NamiaSc @ Jan 26 2013, 02:57 PM)
Preferred brand : Any reliable and quality brand
Budget : Less than rm 3k (is there monthly payment? im a nooby here  sad.gif  )
Usage : image editing, computer illustration, some 3d rendering, some video editing and gaming
Preferred screen size : 14'-15'

your help is really appreciated  notworthy.gif
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some the usage you mention should be require a good graphic card
then here you go
Lenovo Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD
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QUOTE(dailylaksmi @ Jan 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
Hi! So I was hoping I could get some recommendation on a laptop for me and my father.

1. Preferred Brand: Sony or Acer
2. Budget: 6000-8000 USD
3. Usage: playing on facebook, business travelling, browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 11.6-14"
5. Processors: I3 / I5 / I7
6. Preferred battery life: 6-cell, or at least 5 hours

I'm considering the some following options:
- Sony Vaio 14126
- Sony Vaio 14122
- Acer V3-471G
- Acer V5-471G

Could you please help me to decide..?

Many Thanks  notworthy.gif
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budget : 6000 USD (around RM 18k) - 8000 USD (around RM 24k) shocking.gif ???

get this
Sony Vaio SVS13A25PG, i7-3520M + Nvidia GT640M LE + (1600x900)@RM4799[1.69kg], carbon fibre, 8GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8Pro; color: black; Vaio carrying case
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QUOTE(dailylaksmi @ Jan 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
Hi! So I was hoping I could get some recommendation on a laptop for me and my father.

1. Preferred Brand: Sony or Acer
2. Budget: 6000-8000 USD
3. Usage: playing on facebook, business travelling, browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 11.6-14"
5. Processors: I3 / I5 / I7
6. Preferred battery life: 6-cell, or at least 5 hours

I'm considering the some following options:
- Sony Vaio 14126
- Sony Vaio 14122
- Acer V3-471G
- Acer V5-471G

Could you please help me to decide..?

Many Thanks  notworthy.gif
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Holy cow!! 6000-8000 USD?? shocking.gif shocking.gif
You don't need that much yo laugh.gif
Perhaps a Dell XPS12 or 13?
12.5"
Dell [Ultrabook] XPS12, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080)touch screen@RM3899[1.52kg], 4GB, W8, backlit, spill resistant keyboard, build-in battery, no ODD (flippable screen)

13"
Dell [Ultrabook] XPS13, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM3299[1.36kg], 4GB, W8, backlit

Use remaining money to extend warranty to 3 years complete cover for peace of mind thumbup.gif

There are a lot more options to chooose from but I believe your dad would prefer fast and efficient warranty service, wherever he goes icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(dont8cum @ Jan 26 2013, 01:00 PM)
using HP G42 series. Havent try to change the thermal paste yet. It's only exactly 2 years old.
I reformat it back into factory settings, put it on idle, the temperature is about 40++ degree celcius. How is that even possible right?

XPS14 seems good with the 630M. Do u think it will overheat if i play only FIFA 13 on it?

If the cooling system is okay i might get XPS14 + upgrade the SSD if possible.

spectre looks like apple's macbook. design not innovative enough  yawn.gif
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Yup, your HP G42 sounds awfully "hot" sweat.gif
Since you mentioned you have clean up the heat sink frequently, then the only possible hardware problem is the thermal paste or the fan itself (did you hear the fan rev up? I don't have access to G42, you may want to go into BIOS and see if there is any setting to set the fan at always max. Or you may want to try speedfan and see if it is able to control the laptop fan).

FIFA 13 is not too GPU demanding, won't be taxing the GT630M too much smile.gif

Going for full SSD actually will help the laptop thermal profile as well (HDD is one of the major heat source).

Generally for ultrabook, I still think it's better to get a cooling pad (or some other ingenious solution) if you plan to game on it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dailylaksmi @ Jan 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
Hi! So I was hoping I could get some recommendation on a laptop for me and my father.

1. Preferred Brand: Sony or Acer
2. Budget: 6000-8000 USD
3. Usage: playing on facebook, business travelling, browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 11.6-14"
5. Processors: I3 / I5 / I7
6. Preferred battery life: 6-cell, or at least 5 hours

I'm considering the some following options:
- Sony Vaio 14126
- Sony Vaio 14122
- Acer V3-471G
- Acer V5-471G

Could you please help me to decide..?

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Other sifus have given you lots of good suggestions smile.gif
However, if your dad prefer something more "business look", you may want to consider these:

Dell
Latitude E6230, i5-3360M + Intel HD4000@RM4550, 4GB, 320GB(7200rpm), W7P(32-bit)/W8 Pro (64-bit), 3-cell; [CPU options: i3-3360M-i7-3520M
Latitude E6330, i5-3320M + Intel HD4000@RM4380[1.65kg], W7P (32-bit), 3 years Pro support; [CPU options: i5-3320M-i7-3520M]
Latitude E6430u, i5-3427U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM4500, 4GB, W8Pro, 3 years Pro support; [CPU options: i5-3427U - i7-3667U]
You could get slice battery that attach to the bottom of these laptop, in total 2 batteries could last you 10+ hours during long flight thumbup.gif Also customise for full SSD for any of these models, it will improve battery performance.

Lenovo
Thinkpad X1 Carbon, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD (1600x900)@RM5399[1.36kg], 4GB, W7P, backlit keyboard, no ODD

One of the advantage of these business laptop is that they are better build for the rumble tumble of long distance travelling.

If you prefer something more chic, then perhaps:
Apple
MacBookAir 13", i5-3427U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD + (1440x900)@RM3699[1.35kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX
MacBookAir 13", i5-3427U + Intel HD4000 + 256GB SSD + (1440x900)@RM4599[1.35kg], 4GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Jan 26 2013, 08:36 PM)
Yup, your HP G42 sounds awfully "hot" sweat.gif
Since you mentioned you have clean up the heat sink frequently, then the only possible hardware problem is the thermal paste or the fan itself (did you hear the fan rev up? I don't have access to G42, you may want to go into BIOS and see if there is any setting to set the fan at always max. Or you may want to try speedfan and see if it is able to control the laptop fan).

FIFA 13 is not too GPU demanding, won't be taxing the GT630M too much smile.gif

Going for full SSD actually will help the laptop thermal profile as well (HDD is one of the major heat source).

Generally for ultrabook, I still think it's better to get a cooling pad (or some other ingenious solution) if you plan to game on it tongue.gif
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my G42 fan 99% of the time always rev up and make alot noise. even no program is on.
virus? nope. reset to factory settings after few hours then also liddat.

absolutely i'll buy a cooling pad for my future ultrabook.

Do u think it's a great time to get the XPS 14 now, or shall i wait until it comes out with a new variant/model?

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Preferred laptop/screen size: 14"
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QUOTE(dailylaksmi @ Jan 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
Hi! So I was hoping I could get some recommendation on a laptop for me and my father.

1. Preferred Brand: Sony or Acer
2. Budget: 6000-8000 USD
3. Usage: playing on facebook, business travelling, browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 11.6-14"
5. Processors: I3 / I5 / I7
6. Preferred battery life: 6-cell, or at least 5 hours

I'm considering the some following options:
- Sony Vaio 14126
- Sony Vaio 14122
- Acer V3-471G
- Acer V5-471G

Could you please help me to decide..?

Many ThanksĀ  notworthy.gif
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You gotta be kidding me... shocking.gif shocking.gif you sure it's USD or RM??
Though if you want to maximize your budget.. Then go for Illegear RS15 icon_idea.gif
If you're in the US, you can try OriginPC or XoticPC.. whistling.gif
(Sifus, idk whether is it relevant or not, first time giving suggestions)

EDIT: don't mind my reply.. Didn't notice you prefer Sony and Acer.. Sorry~ sweat.gif

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