It may be a godly weapon for WD.
Perma-haunt.

correct onot?

i read from forum..need ask EF user here..

Answer is no.

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Added on December 17, 2012, 2:38 pmAnswer is no.

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Added on December 17, 2012, 2:40 pmTo counter fear-on-hit, use stun/freeze skill/gear.
Cold damage will help a bit in slowing down the elites.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 02:40 PM

thanks for confirmation..lucky not buy it yet...

It is still one of the best weapons for melee heroes.
There are pros and cons.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 02:41 PM

lol. so u buy a 500m wep to put it on the off hand? off hands are WKL

yeah. i bought a 1200+ dps with 60% CD and a socket, for 500m.
now my another hand is equipping a shenlong fist with 800 LOH and a socket, manage to change this fist to a LS's weapon..

definitely not good for my WW barbarian (i like to lure 3-4 or 5 elites pack together bfr WW...not good if they run away always) .. i thought want buy it for off-hand slot...

@@ thanks Aleune for confirmation..if not burn my 100m+ gold...

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Dec 17 2012, 02:48 PM

Yes, I feel you. I know how bad it is for WW barb.
2 things you can do,
1) Get stun/freeze skill/gear
2) Change your WW build to WWT or WWT+HOTA build. A hybrid build will solve the issue.

For barb, EF should go to MH instead of OH.
For monk, it doesn't matter whether it's on MH or OH.

It is still the most popular weapon for melee heroes.
http://diablo.somepage.com/popular/items

Is popular cuz of the +0.24 AS on the weapon. I rather get a fist weapon.

As I mentioned, there are pros and cons.

I think you know the cons of echoing fury.

The pros, high damage + high attack speed (for both MH & OH). No weapon comes close to that so far.
Give a look at echoing fury. It is one of the best out there... and the best for me (as there are no better alternatives).

i tried but still prefer WW build only.. maybe for now..its becos that build need to use 'no escape passive'...i cant do that for now bcos i need bloodthirst for MP6 and above..

i'm sorry but The Fist of Az has a similar damage range compared to EF and it has stun on it. Once my monk hits 60. I'm using Fist of Az + WKL. (no one copy please )

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 17 2012, 02:54 PM

If this is the case, I think you need to change some of your gears/weapons and do without bloodthirst passive.

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Added on December 17, 2012, 2:59 pmFist of Az and Echoing Fury combo then.
Stun will overcome the fear issue. And you get damage and speed. Best of both worlds.

WKL... I think it is a bit over-rated and over-priced.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 02:59 PM

still no luck for good LS weapon yet...

Kenot fight EF la..straight up DPS..EF is the KING!!!...the +0.2x attacks is tremendous. FoA i remember only got 1 random roll..so if you roll CD..means no socket...if socket no CD. EF can roll..socket + CD yo....

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Added on December 17, 2012, 3:05 pmCan...you can put a pre- 1.04 EF and post 1.04 EF at the same time..

But ..pre 1.04 leg are really pariah max though..

But you cant equip same leg if they are "unique equipped".

This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 17 2012, 03:05 PM

The +0.2x AS only brings the EF to 1.4X since it is a mace. The FoA has 1.54 - 1.55 AS. So, speed wise FoA wins.

Well, a EF with OS + native crit is 500m and that is for a native crit of say 40-50 percent. Since i think monk prioritize AS and CC, i think EF with native crit is overrated.

Now, a 1.2k DPS FoA with OS is less than 100m here. 60-80 to be exact. Are u going to fork out 400mil more for a 1.1k DPS EF with 50CHD? Since it is a 1.1k DPS EF, the 50CHD has been overshadowed by the greater damage range of the FoA.

The only roll i feel EF shines is the LS roll with OS but again, stun ain't that bad.

I think you can easily replace your weapons.
Just the matter the gold you have.

Lulz..until you use one WKL with 6%/25% bonus. For what is it..I think its under rated compared with a EF. Since you made the post on comparing times to down Ghom, maybe someone can do a test which one is faster..

My money is on WKL ( I am bias as I am using a WKL).