Aduh. Salah la..

Won Kim Lau:
- Adds x% to lightning dmg -> (1)
- Lightning skills deals xx% more dmg -> (2)

Statement (2) gives you a xx% bonus to your FoT or SW: Cyclone skill. So whatever native numbers FoT has you add xx% onto it. SW:Cyclone is tricky.

The "xx% more damage on lighning skills" improves all skills that cause x% weapon damage as lightning. This improves all damage instances of FoT, including the additional aoe component of Thunderclap. Also, it improves the tornados spawned by Sweeping Wind/Cyclone. However, it does NOT improve Sweeping Wind's base damage, also it does not work for Seven-Sided Strike.

Now, statement (1) that goes to your NON ELEMENTAL range on your weapons. The highlighted red statement is inaccurate.

The "Adds x% to lightning damage" takes all your physical damage (and physical damage only) and adds 5% of that as lightning to your overall dps. So if you use a weapon with only physical damage, this acts as a flat 5% DPS increase. If your weapon however has any elemental damage instead (even if it is lighning damage) the elemental portion WILL NOT be increased, so you end up with a bonus less than 5%

p.s: +x% elemental bonus applies to rings or amulets with average damage range as well because that average damage range is being added to your weapon damage range as well. Which is why, at the moment, elemental weapons kinda suck. I hope there's some sort of buff coming soon. Instead of working on the meaningless PVP, is stuff like this that should be altered.

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 14 2012, 09:15 PM

Nope. I can't. I went around asking some of my monk friends. Each had different explanation and i just gave up.

I know debuffs like MoC or BoH are multiplicative tho. My guts tells me it should be additive like how AS works.

I hope i make sense. I'm blur atm

Bro, no la.

Here how it works.

When we deal with +x% elemental damange, it is a straight addition of (x% * non-elemental damage range) to your overall DPS. So, if you have "adds 5% holy damage" on say your SoJ, you gain a FLAT 5% bonus if you use a non-elemental weapon on your MH. The math here is straight out addition. No multiplication here.

The question quaza brought up was when we deal with "lightning skills deals xx% more damage" on the WKL. That i'm not sure whether is addition or multiplication. My guts tells me is additive la.

or did i misunderstood u?

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 15 2012, 01:39 AM

@yuhhaur

Glad you enjoyed the exotic food Vietnam has to offer.

@moba

How much did your mempo cost?

and yet everyone is crazy about EF.

lol. so u buy a 500m wep to put it on the off hand? off hands are WKL

Is popular cuz of the +0.24 AS on the weapon. I rather get a fist weapon.

i'm sorry but The Fist of Az has a similar damage range compared to EF and it has stun on it. Once my monk hits 60. I'm using Fist of Az + WKL. (no one copy please )

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 17 2012, 02:54 PM

The +0.2x AS only brings the EF to 1.4X since it is a mace. The FoA has 1.54 - 1.55 AS. So, speed wise FoA wins.

Well, a EF with OS + native crit is 500m and that is for a native crit of say 40-50 percent. Since i think monk prioritize AS and CC, i think EF with native crit is overrated.

Now, a 1.2k DPS FoA with OS is less than 100m here. 60-80 to be exact. Are u going to fork out 400mil more for a 1.1k DPS EF with 50CHD? Since it is a 1.1k DPS EF, the 50CHD has been overshadowed by the greater damage range of the FoA.

The only roll i feel EF shines is the LS roll with OS but again, stun ain't that bad.

FoA gives you stun which does not scale. TRUE. EF scales? NO. And you try to say +% elemental bonus on ammy scales then relate it to FoA. What's ur point?

p.s: FoA + WKL combination = high AS. EF + WKL combination = slightly higher AS. So? 3.0 AS and 3.2 AS, u won't notice much difference anyway.

p.s.s: Stun >>> Fear

ASI is additive so don't really matter bro. Like i said, monks with identical gears but one uses FoA and the other EF will have rather similar AS. Sure, the EF wins but the extra AS on it doesn't justify the fear and price tag. Just my two cents.

^ Skorn imo is terrible for AS builds. But then if is good enough for u to do mp10 and not die. By all means use it since is cheap anyway.

Yes, our understanding is the same actually. Additive and scaling works together.

But i'm looking at it from the gold side. 1.2k DPS FoA is at 1.55 AS and 1.2k DPS EF is at 1.44. Assuming both have sockets and the EF has either LS or native crit, the EF is going to be at least 1.5b where else the FoA, last i checked 100mil MAX.

Which brings us to ur scaling part, is that 0.2-0.3 extra AS worth 1.4b? No. But ofc, if u're rich by all means go ahead.

lol.. Well, a gg WKL is still okay but EF price is just insane. So far the most i've spend is on my weapon and i don't think i can get a EF with that gold.

Are you an EF user? good gears you have?

oh yeah, TWH.. mannnnnn...

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 17 2012, 05:00 PM

Hi Guys,

Sorry to hijack the thread but since this is the hottest thread, i figured i could get my answers fastest here.

I sold my old mempo on the GAH followed by other stuff. I've received the gold for stuff i have sold few hours later but my mempo says processing. I understand they need to process if is on the RMAH but this is the GAH we are talking about.

Any ideas???

i doubt it. The mempo had dex + vit nia. The most it could go if i'm extremely lucky is 100mil ish..

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[quote=2890,Dec 18 2012, 01:36 PM]
i doubt it. The mempo had dex + vit nia. The most it could go if i'm extremely lucky is 100mil ish..

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Weird wei...I always thought GAH transaction is instant..

Oh well...wow..Dex + Vit Mempo can sell for 100M...wah!!! I also got 1 198 Dex +77 Vit 80 Res...I willing to accept 50M lololol

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well therefore i said if i'm extremely lucky.. and besides my mempo have almost 250 dex. we all know DEX is pricey

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 18 2012, 01:56 PM

thanks! so i just gotta wait. i have open a ticket with them as well.

Guys which better?

WKL No. 1
859.6 DPS
6%
23%
161 DEX
3% LS
Os

WKL No. 2
881.3%
6%
25%
152 DEX
2.7% LS
OS

what about the damage range?? should i look at that as well? the first one has a higher min dmg but low on the max dmg.

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 04:06 PM