Did the monk party @ MP10 uber.
Took us approx 22min.

We will do better next time.


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Freeze? It's time to get reduce duration of control impairing effects gears.
Gear up! Gear up!

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Added on December 15, 2012, 4:43 pmHmm... so, it was you causing the freeze?

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 15 2012, 04:43 PM

Please text me when you see me online. We can go walk walk.

No worries, you are good.

It may be a godly weapon for WD.
Perma-haunt.

Answer is no.

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Added on December 17, 2012, 2:38 pmAnswer is no.

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Added on December 17, 2012, 2:40 pmTo counter fear-on-hit, use stun/freeze skill/gear.
Cold damage will help a bit in slowing down the elites.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 02:40 PM

It is still one of the best weapons for melee heroes.
There are pros and cons.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 02:41 PM

Yes, I feel you. I know how bad it is for WW barb.
2 things you can do,
1) Get stun/freeze skill/gear
2) Change your WW build to WWT or WWT+HOTA build. A hybrid build will solve the issue.

For barb, EF should go to MH instead of OH.
For monk, it doesn't matter whether it's on MH or OH.

It is still the most popular weapon for melee heroes.
http://diablo.somepage.com/popular/items

As I mentioned, there are pros and cons.

I think you know the cons of echoing fury.

The pros, high damage + high attack speed (for both MH & OH). No weapon comes close to that so far.
Give a look at echoing fury. It is one of the best out there... and the best for me (as there are no better alternatives).

If this is the case, I think you need to change some of your gears/weapons and do without bloodthirst passive.

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Added on December 17, 2012, 2:59 pmFist of Az and Echoing Fury combo then.
Stun will overcome the fear issue. And you get damage and speed. Best of both worlds.

WKL... I think it is a bit over-rated and over-priced.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 02:59 PM

I think you can easily replace your weapons.
Just the matter the gold you have.

I'm using 5%/25% bonus WKL on my OH.

Faster? In what? You mean attack speed? Like 2.76 attack speed per sec?

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 03:13 PM

Mine is 879DPS.

Yes, I agree it's comparable to 1.1K weapon.
FoA give you 1.2K to 1.3K weapon. Rares can give you the same range too.

I'm not saying WKL is not good. The point here is the price of WKL.
You can get better or alternative with the same or lower price.

(weapons that I mentioned are come with LS)

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Added on December 17, 2012, 3:21 pmYeah, I think the thread is made to find out who can kill Ghom fast.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 03:21 PM

Based on my build, WKL gives about 18.5% damage bonus (over the published/paper DPS on the weapon).
Many said it's 20%. So, I think the bonus range is there.

Yes, it scales. Other gears can be a good alternative at cheaper rate.
i.e. SoJ that gives you 30% damage bonus + a better yellow rare can be a better combo & cheaper alternative

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Added on December 17, 2012, 3:57 pmAlready did the test.
Same DPS weapon (paper dps).
About +/- 18.5% shorter time for my case.

With WKL, 2min 2sec - 2min 22sec (done many testings, the result falls in this range).
With yellow rare, 2min 40sec - 2min-48sec.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 17 2012, 03:58 PM

Skorn is one of the best weapons.
Your monk works perfectly well with Skorn.

Seriously, this kind of knock back is worse than fear-on-hit on echoing fury.
Imagine these elites come with mortar affix, your DH party member will swear you hard.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 18 2012, 01:54 PM

40k HP would not be enough for high MP (9/10).
This is because you'll be 1-blow KOed (by certain elites).

You need at least 45K (still barely enough for me).
50K would be ideal. 60K would be very good.

Which MP you played?
Try increase your VIT to at least 45K.

5% LS is not enough.
Either you increase your AR/armor or stack some LOH.

I think you are contradicting yourself.

Your WW Barb friends were busy killing (so that he/she could keep his/her WoTB up).
Some of your party members must be idling watching.

It is doable without serenity, even in MP10. That's for sure.
Everyone can do it.

It is just less practical.
For me, it just doesn't quite make sense to drop such skill.