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post Nov 8 2013, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 8 2013, 09:03 PM)
Actually you can contact with God.  smile.gif

Before I became a Christian many years ago back in the 90's, I was a non believer, at one time I was really down in life (as non believer), I cried out to God. I know there is a God, I just didn't know how or who He is.

God sent my cousin to talk to me about Him, the next few days. I know it's not coincidence.
  smile.gif , That's how I accepted Jesus Christ.
It's better to ask why our world got so many problems, the problem of evil and sin.
From there you will understand about Men rebellion against God and Satan.

About Porn,
When Jesus says this.

Matthew 5:28 (NIV)
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

What He meant is that we are too look at things from a higher perspective.
Pornography is basically disrespecting women.

Whether you like it or not, that person is somebody's daughter, somebody's sister.
Sure as long as it's somebody we don't know, don't care right? But God want us to threat other as how we threat ourselves. (Galatians 5:14 - For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself.")

If it was our sister or mother I'm sure we would be the first to shout no way, don't disrespect my sister with your lust, right?
Same principal we should apply to other female even though we don't know them. That is respecting with love.  smile.gif
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so you got contact with god before?

i always ask myself why this world are so problematic, ask many why why
and i answer myself yet not satisfied with my own answer.
i want more about it
if i am the lord of earth, i will destroy all bad guy like the moses who throw the rock on mountain
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post Nov 8 2013, 08:11 PM

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guys, i have 1 copy of Don Moen Uncharted Territory for sale at rm30 only, it's still new and unopened.

reason for sale is becoz i already has the album make a mistake there by buying another copy

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post Nov 8 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Nov 8 2013, 08:11 PM)
so you got contact with god before?

i always ask myself why this world are so problematic, ask many why  why
and i answer myself yet not satisfied with my own answer.
i want more about it
if i am the lord of earth,  i will destroy all bad guy like the moses who throw the rock on mountain
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Now everyday also contact God. biggrin.gif


The world will reset when Jesus comes again.
New Earth, Heaven and new Jerusalem will come and replace this corrupted world. (Bible: Chapter Revelation 21)
SUSmeistsh_musical
post Nov 8 2013, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 8 2013, 09:16 PM)
Now everyday also contact God.  biggrin.gif


The world will reset when Jesus comes again.
New Earth, Heaven and new Jerusalem will come and replace this corrupted world. (Bible: Chapter Revelation 21)
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u got see moses story?
in the end his go top mountain contact with god and write a word in rock
and his throw the rock at city becos angry still got alot bad guy.
and the rock broke kill bad guy
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post Nov 8 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Nov 8 2013, 08:18 PM)
u got see moses story?
in the end his go top mountain contact with god and write a word in rock
and his throw the rock at city becos angry still got alot bad guy.
and the rock broke kill bad guy
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Yeah, that one is in the dvd.

Actually

God is the one who wrote on the rock, not Moses.

When He (Moses) came down from Mount Sinai, the people sinned by building a golden calf (cow -Idol)

He was angry and threw the tablet on the ground. He didn't throw at city. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 8 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 8 2013, 09:21 PM)
Yeah, that one is in the dvd.

Actually

God is the one who wrote on the rock, not Moses.

When He (Moses) came down from Mount Sinai, the people sinned by building a golden calf (cow -Idol)

He was angry and threw the tablet on the ground. He didn't throw at city.  biggrin.gif
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so how to contact with god?
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post Nov 8 2013, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Nov 8 2013, 08:23 PM)
so how to contact with god?
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Pray. Find a time, when nobody disturb you, maybe in your room.

Pray.

Call Him as God. Just say you want to know Him.
You can pray: Please come into my life.
If you don't mind, End the prayer like this:

In Jesus Name, Amen.





I will pray for you.

I gtg now, going to Church, see you guys later.
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post Nov 8 2013, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 8 2013, 09:25 PM)
Pray. Find a time, when nobody disturb you, maybe in your room.

Pray.

Call Him as God. Just say you want to know Him.
You can pray: Please come into my life.
If you don't mind, End the prayer like this:

In Jesus Name, Amen.
I will pray for you.

I gtg now, going to Church, see you guys later.
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ok byebye
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post Nov 10 2013, 01:33 AM

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If a world without problems, we surely wont rely or need god, perhaps we treat ourself as god. Reason for problems occur in your life is the key / test of how we strengthen our faith on God. That's why whenever there are humans, there's problems. Each individual will explore their own problems, and whoever over the problems will be grow in another level. Every problems do carry a message from God for we to learn. If we yet to learn from the problem, although it seems that we did solve it. For sure, the problem will come back to us again till we really learn our lesson which God prepared for us before receiving greater gifts from God. That's why do submit to things to God and ask for guidance.
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post Nov 11 2013, 05:07 PM

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Are you a believer?
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post Nov 11 2013, 05:58 PM

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Guys I have a question to ask

Should we have children?

Sounds like a rather straightforward question that warrants a "Yes", but there's more to that.

Should we encourage or discourage children? The Bible has always cherished children and encouraged parents to have as many as they want.

However should we really have more children at this age?

It's a guilt trip to see parents regretting that they brought children into a world of suffering. Especially kids with mental problem, a disability, chronic illness, or if they're starving.

So the big question is: Should we keep encouraging people to have children even when there's no future for them? If they don't believe in god, you're giving birth to them only to go to eternal suffering in hell.
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post Nov 11 2013, 06:05 PM

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This post has been edited by henghuang: Nov 26 2013, 03:34 PM
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post Nov 11 2013, 09:28 PM

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Haha .. I guess you didn't read the first thread
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post Nov 12 2013, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Nov 11 2013, 05:58 PM)
Guys I have a question to ask

Should we have children?

Sounds like a rather straightforward question that warrants a "Yes", but there's more to that.

Should we encourage or discourage children? The Bible has always cherished children and encouraged parents to have as many as they want.

However should we really have more children at this age?

It's a guilt trip to see parents regretting that they brought children into a world of suffering. Especially kids with mental problem, a disability, chronic illness, or if they're starving.

So the big question is: Should we keep encouraging people to have children even when there's no future for them? If they don't believe in god, you're giving birth to them only to go to eternal suffering in hell.
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Please treat this as just my opinion. smile.gif

I think this should not be a yes or no question. Yes, God did command man to be fruitful and multiply. Every couple have this innate desire to have descendants (or fruit). Spiritually, is the same, Christians should bear fruits spiritually. Otherwise, they will feel meaningless. So, it is a normal thing as a human, even more, the spiritual principle.

Yet, one have to realize why man needs to be fruitful and multiply? For what? For himself? We need to realize that God wants to gain an enlarged corporate expression of Himself on this earth. We raise children for God's purpose and expression. The children is just under our care and NEVER ours. They are the Lord's. We are just their caretaker. Our vision is that there will be continuation of His testimony on this earth. blush.gif

Yet, we don't spiritualize this to hammer that we should have children. tongue.gif

We should go through the matter with the Lord as the Head firstly and foremost. Also, we need to consider humanly and practically whether to have children. Financially, heath, etc etc. It is not a small thing.

Lastly, I feel that whether children will eventually received Christ in the future depends on us as parent to be pattern. There is no excuse in that we can waive our responsibility out of this. Yes, there is the side of God's choosing. But, there is also the side of human responsibility. Whether or not, they received Christ in the future, the other half of the responsibility lies with us raising them. Our pattern, at least, the first 21 years of their life, will
determine their future. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Nov 12 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Nov 11 2013, 05:58 PM)
Guys I have a question to ask

Should we have children?

Sounds like a rather straightforward question that warrants a "Yes", but there's more to that.

Should we encourage or discourage children? The Bible has always cherished children and encouraged parents to have as many as they want.

However should we really have more children at this age?

It's a guilt trip to see parents regretting that they brought children into a world of suffering. Especially kids with mental problem, a disability, chronic illness, or if they're starving.

So the big question is: Should we keep encouraging people to have children even when there's no future for them? If they don't believe in god, you're giving birth to them only to go to eternal suffering in hell.
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You got to learn to see things from the eyes and heart of God.
One of the tenets of being a Christian (and you can say this is a kind of repentance) is to agree with God and disagree with yourself.
There are many things in my life I'm learning to let go and decided to come in agreement with God that he is right.

I used to think children are a burden but that is not what the scripture says.
Children are actually a very great blessing from God.

Psalm 127:3 (NLT)
Children are a gift from the LORD; they are a reward from him.

So when we have children, it means it's a love gift from God.

Back in ancient times, mothers who are barren in the womb are considered not having the favor of God in their Life.

If God is right, then we need to seek wisdom from Him in how to raise up Children without allowing fear to get a grip in our life and
allow God to work in our children's life so that they will come into his kingdom.

As Parents we cannot force our children to believe but we have the responsibility to guide them. This command is in the Bible.
Not only that but we as parents need to be an example in the Lord in fervent relationship and prayer.

Anyway for consolation, God already made provisions for children, they have special grace and protection from God.

And God loves children very much so we can pray knowing this advantage is on our side.


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post Nov 12 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(henghuang @ Nov 11 2013, 06:05 PM)
Threads or posts pertaining to racial, religious, political or sexual issues are strictly prohibited in Kopitiam, Serious Kopitiam and its subforums. Such discussions may instead be conducted at Real World Issues, and will be subject to strict moderation.

This thread shouldn't be created, read the rules. icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Don't judge the book cover without reading the 1st page introduction, always at least observe more before comment. This rules applies to our real world also. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(skydrake @ Nov 12 2013, 12:23 PM)
Don't judge the book cover without reading the 1st page introduction, always at least observe more before comment. This rules applies to our real world also.  biggrin.gif
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Don't worry, maybe he's interested to be a christian. icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 12 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 12 2013, 12:43 PM)
Don't worry, maybe he's interested to be a christian.  icon_idea.gif
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no worry at all rclxms.gif
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post Nov 12 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 12 2013, 10:58 AM)
You got to learn to see things from the eyes and heart of God.
One of the tenets of being a Christian (and you can say this is a kind of repentance) is to agree with God and disagree with yourself.
There are many things in my life I'm learning to let go and decided to come in agreement with God that he is right.

I used to think children are a burden but that is not what the scripture says.
Children are actually a very great blessing from God.

Psalm 127:3 (NLT)
Children are a gift from the LORD; they are a reward from him.

So when we have children, it means it's a love gift from God.

Back in ancient times, mothers who are barren in the womb are considered not having the favor of God in their Life.

If God is right, then we need to seek wisdom from Him in how to raise up Children without allowing fear to get a grip in our life and
allow God to work in our children's life so that they will come into his kingdom.

As Parents we cannot force our children to believe but we have the responsibility to guide them. This command is in the Bible.
Not only that but we as parents need to be an example in the Lord in fervent relationship and prayer.

Anyway for consolation, God already made provisions for children, they have special grace and protection from God.

And God loves children very much so we can pray knowing this advantage is on our side.
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Back then in Jewish tradition the survival of parents are directly tied to the amount of children they have. So that's why the society believe that a barren woman is rejected by God.

Right now however it's like a barren woman is the luckiest in the world.

It's very very hard for me to see children are a blessing when I feel like I'm just a burden to my parents. I'm not strong or healthy, can't cope with school and often in some kind of pain. So since young there are frequent trips to the doctor, and lots of frustration

When I face difficulties of get angry, my parents feel really really sad to see me. And that makes me even more depressed and frustrated

Times like that I think it'll be better for everyone if I'm never born

This post has been edited by Sophiera: Nov 12 2013, 02:27 PM
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post Nov 12 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Nov 12 2013, 02:21 PM)
Back then in Jewish tradition the survival of parents are directly tied to the amount of children they have. So that's why the society believe that a barren woman is rejected by God.

Right now however it's like a barren woman is the luckiest in the world.

It's very very hard for me to see children are a blessing when I feel like I'm just a burden to my parents. I'm not strong or healthy, can't cope with school and often in some kind of pain. So since young there are frequent trips to the doctor, and lots of frustration

When I face difficulties of get angry, my parents feel really really sad to see me. And that makes me even more depressed and frustrated

Times like that I think it'll be better for everyone if I'm never born
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What I gave you is from the view point of Parents.

Now from the view point of your self, the underlying principal is still the same which is:

One of the tenets of being a Christian (and you can say this is a kind of repentance) is to agree with God and disagree with yourself.

When Jesus came to Earth, He healed the sick, the lame, the blind, etc.

Why? Just to show that He has power? No.

He came to set you free back to Health, Life and Wholeness, He loves you.
Salvation is not just eternal life, it is more than that. (John 10:10 (ESV) - ...I came that they may have life and have it abundantly)

Problem is, you got to learn to agree with God. Right now, you're looking at things in the natural. Learn to see things the way God sees it.

Romans 4:17 (KJV) says it like this - (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

God call things which is not as though they were. smile.gif

So even though you don't have good health, proclaim and agree and believe in God's word that you have.

What's the supporting scriptures?

… who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.
— 1 Peter 2:24

“…I am the Lord who heals you.”
— Exodus 15:26

Surely He has borne our griefs (sicknesses, weaknesses, and distresses) and carried our sorrows and pains [of punishment], yet we [ignorantly] considered Him stricken, smitten, and afflicted by God [as if with leprosy]. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our guilt and iniquities; the chastisement [needful to obtain] peace and well-being for us was upon Him, and with the stripes [that wounded] Him we are healed and made whole.
— Isaiah 53:4–5 (AMP)

But He was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.
— Isaiah 53:5 (NLT)

You can pray like this;

Lord Jesus, I thank You that You love me and that You able and more than willing to heal me. At the cross, You took all my sicknesses and pains in Your own body, and by Your stripes, I am healed! Your body was broken so that mine can be made whole. I receive all that You have done for me and I rest in Your finished work. There is nothing more for me to do. As I wait on You for the complete manifestation of my healing, I choose to focus on and give praise for Your great love for me. Amen!









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