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post Dec 10 2012, 10:21 AM

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Amen
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 12:26 PM)

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hello fren
i want know the story about christian before jesus spread it.
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 12:41 PM)
ha, sad to say, that's normal lah. there's always critics in every church.

Just don't let them condemn you.

You belong to Jesus Christ. Not to them.

Since you belong to Jesus Christ, allow me to encourage you with this
Romans 8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
You may think you've stop but I can vouch that God has not stop calling for you, dear Friend.
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actually all god are live harmony peacefully each other.. only human create a problem
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post Dec 10 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 12:58 PM)
wah that question alone is answered in the Old Testament of the Bible.

Many many pages long.

but in summary, ever since the beginning of time, the very first Man had direct contact with God, Man sinned, cut off Grace (Favour) ties with God.

Man has been looking for God ever since. God kept in contact with many chosen people like Moses, Elijah, Job, Jeremiah, David, etc so that people are not left completely in the dark.

God gave the 10 commandments through Moses as a representation of Who he is because Israel boasted they can do whatever God commands.

Man failed to keep the 10 commandments perfectly, this prove that Man can never come to God via self effort. (self righteousness)

Israel are the chosen nation of God. But sadly Israel did not recognise God through Jesus as the Messiah.

God send Jesus to reveal the Grace of God and who He really is because the 10 commandments was not really what He wanted for the people.

Meaning to Say God does not want Man to come to God in a self righteous way but in a relationship way of depending on Him.
phew. Will answer more later.
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No human are perfect even a monk himself.
told about this story... the story of moses really are christian? but some how i watch the movies and some book it describe either moses 10 commandments is islamic or a non islamic and christian. because as i watch the old century movie it no state the god are coming from where, it only appear on burning tree and as a light only.

elijah, job, jeremiah story i will search it outcoming..
i only know moses story and jesus story only
and as a christian do u believe islam and christian are come from some god? (me not racist) but i think along time ago after the story of Muhammed S.A.W. and moses story. Please give me a your opinion, i just want see people opinion about it

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post Dec 10 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 01:06 PM)
And why does human create problems?

we have this inherited destructive nature called sin.

God wants to sweep it away and cut off the curse of sin in every man's life.

Through the washing of Jesus's blood.
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hmm.gif maybe.. sometime a a god follower also done wrong manner.
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 01:48 PM)
will answer you later. Got work.

gtg.

see u guise later.

n pls keep the thread clean.

thank you.
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job important
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post Dec 10 2012, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 10 2012, 08:23 PM)
There is only One God. - Christians Muslims and Jewish (which is the Truth)
1 Substance, 3 Forms (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
Believe that you yourself is righteous (Bro Unknown Warrior u have done it so many times, may you enlighten happy berry)
Sharing some with you

Malachi 4:2 ESV
But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall.

Psalm 55:22 ESV
Cast your burden on the Lord, and he will sustain you; he will never permit the righteous to be moved

Lastly,
1 John 3:7 ESV
Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
Yes, we believe in the same God, through different angles. (Please no flame war or sensitive discussion further, we will help if you are to seek knowledge thats it)

From Catechism of Catholic Church,
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

842 The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:

All nations form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth, and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all against the day when the elect are gathered together in the holy city. . .331

as for
Muhammed line - read genesis 21 onwards.
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yes, we here not talk about issue racist we talk about how all the god not same and can stay together, why does so many religion god. your answer are similiar with mine answer. and thank for the guide and description.
i am satisfied

QUOTE(pziv2 @ Dec 10 2012, 08:40 PM)
Christianity was not around during Moses' time. Even Judaism isn't around at that period. I'm not exactly sure what faith it is, but at that time they worshipped the same God as us Christians do today.

Islam and Christianity certainly do not share the same faith. We believe that Jesus is the Son of God while they believe (Isa) is a human prophet.
you shouldn't have the mentality when you are dealing with religion. each denomination is very different and some are even at loggerheads at each other.
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i thought jesus is a follower of god like moses. his hear the god and act it.
Isa is also hearing the voice of god and act according it.
if have any wrong, please remind me. i only know this from old century movie if u have watch before.
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post Dec 10 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 10:29 PM)
Pehkay has answered your question in detail through types of Christ in the Old Testament beginning with Adam till Noah, the first five.

But I would like to highlight one area which we believe God is indeed referring to Jesus Christ.

In Genesis Chapter 3, the moment Adam and Eve fell after deceived by the devil, God immediately reveal his plan of Salvation for Mankind through this verse. I shall use New King James ver as it is based on one of the oldest translation King James and it is rightly translated from Hebrew.

Genesis 3:14-15 (NKJV)
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because you have done this, you are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon your belly shall you go, and dust shall you eat all the days of your life: And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.

In Medical Science, only Male provide seed, Female provide the egg. By right the Bible should mention her offspring (NIV translated) but in the original Hebrew text it is the word seed.

So Here God is referring to a virgin birth in the phrase (seed). It is God's seed.
Of all the religions in the world, Only Christianity is fame for the virgin birth of Jesus Christ.

And true enough, Jesus was crucified in the heel being nailed at the cross and by his death, he has won over the Devil (bruised in the head) at resurrection, removing and stripping the devil of all powers and authorities.

The Greek historian, Romans historian, Pagan historian, Jewish historian and Christian historian have all recorded and acknowledge the history of Jesus Christ and his cruxification, at the cross.
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i got it.... and yes he make a change of the state after crucified by the government.
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post Dec 10 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 10:35 PM)
Everyone has done wrong regardless whether one believe in God or not.

Of course the one who profess to follow Christ should abstain from wrong and continue to improve over time.

We should all be patience but I've come to practise and accept nobody is perfect.
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nod.gif agreed with your saying

QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 10 2012, 10:37 PM)
Different context. I would let Brother Unknown Warrior explains to you on this one but Ill provide the quote first.

Mark 10:45
45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

"In the same way, the Son of Man did not come for other people to serve him. But the Son of Man came to serve other people. The Son of Man came to give his life to save many people."
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post Dec 10 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 10:50 PM)
In the Old Testament, Moses asked:

Exodus 3:13-14 (NIV)
Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"

God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
In the New Testament, Jesus said:

John 8:58 (NIV)
I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!

Here are both referring to the name of God, I AM.
Jesus wasn't just a prophet but also God by the link of the same name, I Am.
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oic the god really have no name, mean christian word was form by jesus christ
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post Dec 10 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 11:10 PM)
God has many names, Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai, I Am, etc but the final one which God the Father ordained is the name Jesus Christ which He put all authorities under. Which means whenever we pray in that name, Heaven answers.
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agree

QUOTE(toda_III @ Dec 10 2012, 11:11 PM)
The word Christ came from ancient Greek word, Christos which means "Anointed". "Christ" is a title, not a name.
Originally the believers of Jesus were called "followers of Jesus". Sometimes the believers were called "The Way".
It was in around year 40, in Antioch (present day Turkey) , the word "Christian" first appeared.
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rclxub.gif according to story, they called "the way of jesus"
u also at here


Added on December 10, 2012, 10:26 pmwah u guy all really know about it and number of page too.

This post has been edited by meistsh_musical: Dec 10 2012, 10:26 PM
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 10 2012, 11:51 PM)
Yes back in those days, thousands of years ago, the practise of Paganism, was so wide spread, Christianity was considered a new religion and the people of that time called it the way.

But what separates and makes Christianity a main attraction, was that Jesus was healing the blind, lame, lepers, resurrecting the dead, etc while at the same time claiming to be God.

The people of that time acknowledge no other religious figure have ever done such things. It was unheard of.

You see only God has the ability to Heal and I believe our Faith is the only one active in the Healing ministry.

Jesus said and these signs will follow those who believe and He shall do greater things than these.  biggrin.gif
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any book about christian story recommend? last time i stay at hotel and bored so i take the bible book at drawer and read.. it have many story from greek to romance and arab. bible book are thick and small so i no finish it. alot time line too

QUOTE(toda_III @ Dec 10 2012, 11:51 PM)
Ok, the timeline is like this. (a rough time line, not the 100% accurate because the ancient people never documented their years in writing)
Jesus born at year 1BC.
Jesus preach at year 30AD
Jesus died at year 33AD

after 33AD - 40AD, there's no word "Christian". Believers are referred to as "followers of Jesus" or "the way"
It's in 40 AD, the word "Christian" appeared to describe "followers of Jesus".

Words are invented all the time even in /k. examples are the word "pipu", "/k", "attensyun"
Words don't appeared out of nowhere, people created it and we Christians are fine with it.
According to the Bible, the word Chrsitians are created by the people of Antioch. Some historians calculate it to be around year 40AD.

So there's no confusion here.
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wah u christian ar?

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post Dec 10 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(toda_III @ Dec 11 2012, 12:00 AM)
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haha dun shy2
anyway u know the time line
proud of you.
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 11 2012, 12:12 AM)
Ive read more on books which are practical emphasized. Not so much on history n origin. Perhaps some brothers in here can recommend.
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okie waiting it

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post Dec 10 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(toda_III @ Dec 11 2012, 12:17 AM)
I can't. I get the information all over the places by years of reading and digesting. No easy reading book in easy text.
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u got the book? borrow me?
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 11 2012, 12:36 AM)
also wish to add to meistsh_musical:

God's name right?

Preview of Jeff Cavins talking about it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yu_Z_p_Z0w

it gives you a clue of what could potential be something you wanna buy, if you really take my advice  smile.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 11 2012, 12:39 AM)
Yup and those who want to view good theological argument should

youtube Ravi Zacharias.

That guy is really amazingly good.
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haha i going sleep soon
well tmrw morning i take a look
see u all tmrw and thank

good night
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post Dec 15 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 15 2012, 01:04 PM)
As for the Mayan Calender, even this deception and lie, God can use to draw people to him, who are searching for the truth.
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Mayan is another god among god
i play games i know it little. it a long ago the people mayan praygod it, but i dunno bout how the look like. most that time all are predict and research on natural environment
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post Dec 15 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 15 2012, 04:57 PM)

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my question here may offend u all, maybe not i dunno

i saw alot horror movie about exorcist ghost or emily exorcist, 666 demon, and many

is it all really exist before? emily story i read article and it say that girl was possessed by many demon. why the gof not helping her and let her suffer till she died
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post Dec 15 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 15 2012, 05:10 PM)
I believe all the gods of this world are none other the ones created by our enemy in concept of driving away people from knowing to one and true living God that we serve.
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mayan religion are similiar like egyptian control by a prophet
and most prophet already know how the sun will affect our earth because they have research it. actually it not a end of world just another circle coming back and make it happen again. it nothing related with god maybe. only the prophet say it and people believe

this my answer
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post Dec 15 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 15 2012, 05:20 PM)
No don't worry about offending me, I will know when a question is genuine, when it's a troll question.

Yes, demons exist. They'e nothing more than fallen angels.

The reason why some people do not get delivered is because of the areas they don't know as truth.

We are bound by the words we professed.

Proverbs 18:21 says
The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.

And it is very true.

Most of the time, conventional priest will says it's because of sin. Which IMO is partly true but IF they never preach that God has totally forgiven the person's sin and it is up to the person to believe in it, the person in question will be in trouble.

If the person cannot come to believe that he or she has been totally forgiven, it gives the enemy legal rights to stay on in the body.
(This is for possessed case).
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eh unable to understand it

fallen angels is satan right? a god who harm jesus and throw in the deep of hell
demon is animal human form

last sentence "sin"
emily is a good girl and why she must suffer this all during young time. she possessed by demon from hell.

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