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mingisms
post Oct 19 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(manutd96 @ Oct 19 2013, 12:06 PM)
I want to ask too? For nilai/iktibar questions in p2/3 for sej, must we ans in full sentence like kita harus mempertahankan negara or just mempertahankan negara like many ans scheme give?
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As far as I know, full sentence. Each point must be in a different sentence. Especially nilai questions. Separate each nilai, don't just go "antara nilai ialah kegagahan, bijaksana dan cinta akan negara."

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 12:36 PM)
As far as I know, full sentence. Each point must be in a different sentence. Especially nilai questions. Separate each nilai, don't just go "antara nilai ialah kegagahan, bijaksana dan cinta akan negara."
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Yes, write in sentence, but simple sentence will suffice. smile.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 12:21 PM)
Hi guys, just wanna share with you all some bit of information which may clear up some confusion.

Thus I have been told by my BM tuition teacher whom teaches at SMK DU, whom also examines SPM BM paper, that all that marks BM paper are of the Malay race so therefore it is okay to put in some words spoken by The Prophet ,know as Hadis if I am not mistaken, as long as it is accurate and fitting the context.

For example,

Cara-cara menambahkan ilmu pengetahuan.

> One of the points
Hadis bermaksud "Carilah ilmu hingga ke negara China" menunjukkan bahawa ilmu ada di mana-mana dan tuntutlah ilmu setinggi yang boleh. Ilmu yang dituntut pula tidak terhad kepada cabang ilmu sains dan teknologi malah dalam pelbagai bidan ilmu supaya insan berilmu yang terhasil merupakan insan yang kamil* dan seimbang dari segi jasmani, emosi, rohani dan intelek.

*Kamil bermaksud sempurna.

Hope this helps smile.gif
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Is your teacher Pn Azrina? I'm from DU. She gave us a ceramah a couple of weeks back and was pissed off cos no one really listened. I have some notes from the ceramah but it's nothing new.

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 12:35 PM)
Ah, thank you.  rclxms.gif  
Maybe do some of the older past years to familiarize yourself then move on to SBP/MARA papers?
Anyways, I was wondering, how do you guys answer Moral questions that ask us to menerangkan our tindakan(2 marks per question). Do you write :

Saya akan berjumpa dengan ibu-bapa pelajar. Saya akan berbincang tentang tindakan anak mereka membuli pelajar lain.

or

Saya akan berjumpa dengan ibu bapa pelajar untuk berbincang tentang tindakan anak mereka memebuli pelajar lain.

Write both points in a sentence or two? Oh and anyone wanna share their pendidikan moral essays? smile.gif
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You can just start with main point and continue with "untuk..." in the same sentence smile.gif

I have my Moral essays but not sure if good because my teacher is inexperienced.

This post has been edited by mingisms: Oct 19 2013, 12:43 PM
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post Oct 19 2013, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 12:41 PM)
Don't need full sentence. Just the main point. I have my Moral essays but not sure if good because my teacher is inexperienced.
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Hm, may I see how you write it please? smile.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 12:42 PM)
Hm, may I see how you write it please? smile.gif
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Sorry, misread your question. Edited my post above. I keep misreading things! Probably shouldn't attempt to multitask while baking, wtf.

Will upload a little later. Gotta put the cheesecake in the fridge.
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post Oct 19 2013, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 12:39 PM)
Is your teacher Pn Azrina? I'm from DU. She gave us a ceramah a couple of weeks back and was pissed off cos no one really listened. I have some notes from the ceramah but it's nothing new.
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Oh so you are from DU...hmm female tag hmm.gif
Jack? Wait maybe not...may I know who are you? tongue.gif

Yeah great minds think alike brows.gif

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 12:45 PM)
Sorry, misread your question. Edited my post above. I keep misreading things! Probably shouldn't attempt to multitask while baking, wtf.

Will upload a little later. Gotta put the cheesecake in the fridge.
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It's ok, thanks for the answer! Cheesecake, yum rclxms.gif


By the way, I noticed when doing PM state questions that the answer schemes don't provide isu behind the KK in the essays. Its like:

Rasional[1]
-Berfikir[1]
H/C Menyedari kepentingan Dasar Kebudayaan Kebangsaan[1]
-Bertindak wajar[1]
H/C: Menyokong Dasar Kebudayaan Kebangsaan[1]


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post Oct 19 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 12:50 PM)
Oh so you are from DU...hmm female tag hmm.gif
Jack? Wait maybe not...may I know who are you?  tongue.gif

Yeah great minds think alike  brows.gif
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I don't go for her tuition, so nope, not Jac. You probably don't know me. I'm like Batman
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 12:52 PM)
It's ok, thanks for the answer! Cheesecake, yum  rclxms.gif
By the way, I noticed when doing PM state questions that the answer schemes don't provide isu behind the KK in the essays. Its like:

Rasional[1]
-Berfikir[1]
H/C Menyedari kepentingan Dasar Kebudayaan Kebangsaan[1]
-Bertindak wajar[1]
H/C: Menyokong Dasar Kebudayaan Kebangsaan[1]
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That's why I said Isu doesn't gain you marks . You write the isu to 'feel good about yourself' . biggrin.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 01:02 PM)
I don't go for her tuition, so nope, not Jac. You probably don't know me. I'm like Batman
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So more reasons to get to know you. brows.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 01:02 PM)
I don't go for her tuition, so nope, not Jac. You probably don't know me. I'm like Batman
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No... I'm Batman, stop misleading people mad.gif

QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 19 2013, 01:03 PM)
That's why I said Isu doesn't gain you marks . You write the isu to 'feel good about yourself' .  biggrin.gif
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Yea, Mr. Gan said the same, but he also said that this is kelonggaran and can be taken back by the ministry any time. So it's safer to do so.

So, we are allowed to only write:

Rakyat harus memiliki Nilai Rasional. Rakyat seharunya boleh berfikir. Contohnya, raykat harus menyedari kepentingan Dasar Kebudayaan Kebangsaan.
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 19 2013, 12:39 PM)
Is your teacher Pn Azrina? I'm from DU. She gave us a ceramah a couple of weeks back and was pissed off cos no one really listened. I have some notes from the ceramah but it's nothing new.
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Haha im not sure who are u but I saw alot of photos about du graduation day. Im from dj im nt sure when is mine...
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 10:32 AM)
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Thank you so much MaximR!!! notworthy.gif

I too will belanja makan if you ever come to Penang, or when I go to KL  smile.gif
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I've to clarify that I'm not from KL . I'm from P.D , the once sleepy-town known for its beaches ( not anymore ) , and from a rural school that came about just 20 years ago .
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 12:38 PM)
Yes, write in sentence, but simple sentence will suffice.  smile.gif
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So just write kita harus... kita perlu .... until its enough?
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 19 2013, 01:09 PM)
I've to clarify that I'm not from KL . I'm from P.D , the once sleepy-town known for its beaches ( not anymore ) , and from a rural school that came about just 20 years ago .
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I meant when you go to KL for A-levels. smile.gif

QUOTE(manutd96 @ Oct 19 2013, 01:10 PM)
So just write kita harus... kita perlu .... until its enough?
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I write : Kita seharnya mengamalkan <nilai in answer scope>

Sometimes when I have too much time, I go crazy and write penerangan.
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 01:14 PM)
I meant when you go to KL for A-levels. smile.gif
I write : Kita seharnya mengamalkan <nilai in answer scope>

Sometimes when I have too much time, I go crazy and write penerangan.
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Is it necessary , the kita part ? I've always written my structured answers like this :

Nilai rasional . Kita harus boleh berfikir tentang kepentingan berkebun . Contohnya , menanam bendi di halaman rumah pada waktu lapang .
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 19 2013, 01:16 PM)
Is it necessary , the kita part ? I've always written my structured answers like this :

Nilai rasional . Kita harus boleh berfikir tentang kepentingan berkebun . Contohnya , menanam bendi di halaman rumah pada waktu lapang .
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Err, I was talking about KBKK for SJ paper 2 sweat.gif

The same thing for essays?
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(manutd96 @ Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM)
Haha im not sure who are u but I saw alot of photos about du graduation day. Im from dj im nt sure when is mine...
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I'm probably not in them! BECAUSE I AM BATMAN. Ok seriously this thread is about SPM. HAHAHHA.

QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 19 2013, 01:09 PM)
I've to clarify that I'm not from KL . I'm from P.D , the once sleepy-town known for its beaches ( not anymore ) , and from a rural school that came about just 20 years ago .
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My school's not very much older than yours at 25, but I guess it's more urban. Do your teachers make an effort to teach well and conduct seminars and stuff like that? Mine's a little lackluster in that department, although I've had mostly excellent teachers this year.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM)
So more reasons to get to know you.  brows.gif
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Just let me be Batman.

QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM)
No... I'm Batman, stop misleading people  mad.gif


Ok you can be Batman on Sundays. Every other day is mine.
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