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chun96
post Oct 20 2013, 09:41 AM

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Anyone studying 'karangan bahasa Melayu' based on 'tema dalam buku teks'?

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post Oct 20 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Oct 19 2013, 09:51 PM)
that actually made me want to see her real picture blink.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:10 AM

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In 'rumusan', we must change the 'kehendak soalan' in 'pendahuluan'. How about the 'kehendak soalan' in 'isi tersurat'? Should we use the original one or our modified one?
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(chun96 @ Oct 20 2013, 10:10 AM)
In 'rumusan', we must change the 'kehendak soalan' in 'pendahuluan'. How about the 'kehendak soalan' in 'isi tersurat'? Should we use the original one or our modified one?
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Oct 19 2013, 10:15 PM)
hey guys, found some tips on the internet for physics paper 2, but dont know accurate or not, so just see it as reference
Kertas 2
Section A
1.    Micrometer screw gauge / vernier calipers 
2.    Latent heat fussion / vaporization / specific heat 
3.    Burnoulli 
4.    Refraction of light / glass index 
5.    Young concept / interference of light / water 
6.    CRO and rectification / diode 
7.    Logic gate 
8.    Half-life / rays / radioactive

Section B
9.  Momentum / Boat or plane modification 
10. Electromagnet / transformer 
11. Gas Law / Gas pressure 
12. Projector / lens

Kertas 3
Section A - Extension of spring / Hooke law / Object distance on image size / focal length
Section B - Resistant over wire diameter / temperature / Inertia
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Even if this was accurate, next thing we know, the Ministry sees this, then they use the backup paper. Then it gets leaked again and then they use another backup paper and we end up reading everything anyways rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(chun96 @ Oct 20 2013, 10:10 AM)
In 'rumusan', we must change the 'kehendak soalan' in 'pendahuluan'. How about the 'kehendak soalan' in 'isi tersurat'? Should we use the original one or our modified one?
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No, you only have to change for the pendahuluan.

Petikan membincangkan tentang <changed word> blah blah blah





So guys, may I know how you all write your Novel for BM? Oh and is there any websites with good SPM essay samples? I can't seem to find any good ones which are not too short.
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post Oct 20 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 10:30 AM)
Even if this was accurate, next thing we know, the Ministry sees this, then they use the backup paper. Then it gets leaked again and then they use another backup paper and we end up reading everything anyways rclxm9.gif
No, you only have to change for the pendahuluan.

Petikan membincangkan tentang <changed word> blah blah blah
So guys, may I know how you all write your Novel for BM? Oh and is there any websites with good SPM essay samples? I can't seem to find any good ones which are not too short.
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NO TENTANG AFTER MEMBINCANGKAN, that's grammatically wrong! Just "petikan membincangkan <isu>" smile.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 12:04 PM

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Speaking of BM novel, is it recommended to write short and simple one or a bit more elaborated to get the bahasa marks? Any idea on how the bahasa marks are given?

QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 10:30 AM)
Oh and is there any websites with good SPM essay samples? I can't seem to find any good ones which are not too short.
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I am searching for it too, especially english and chinese essays.
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post Oct 20 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 20 2013, 11:22 AM)
NO TENTANG AFTER MEMBINCANGKAN, that's grammatically wrong! Just "petikan membincangkan <isu>" smile.gif
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Oh sorry, didn't know that, but then again, my Bahasa is nothing special. Thanks for correcting me!

QUOTE(ericling @ Oct 20 2013, 12:04 PM)
Speaking of BM novel, is it recommended to write short and simple one or a bit more elaborated to get the bahasa marks? Any idea on how the bahasa marks are given?
I am searching for it too, especially english and chinese essays.
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Yea, would like to know this too. I usually write simple short sentences cause I spend too much time on Komsas.
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post Oct 20 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 20 2013, 09:53 AM)
I don't think anyone actually knows what I look like. My name just inspires thoughts of Batman (or Batwoman)
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I'm DU'rians' too, hey that's great! I had a feeling I met you in school before.

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QUOTE(kilofi @ Oct 20 2013, 02:34 PM)
I'm DU'rians' too, hey that's great mind I had a feeling I saw you in school before.
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WHO ARE YOU

(there are like 257 form fives we've probably seen each other before)

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post Oct 20 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 02:31 PM)
Oh sorry, didn't know that, but then again, my Bahasa is nothing special. Thanks for correcting me!
Yea, would like to know this too. I usually write simple short sentences cause I spend too much time on Komsas.
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Novel:

(a) Pendahuluan, 2 isi, Penutup
(b) Pendahuluan, 3 isi, Penutup

Generally, that's the formula. Doesn't need a lot of elaboration because it's only worth 7/8 marks. If I'm not mistaken each isi is worth 2 marks. Isi and huraian (contoh teks) should be good enough.

Bahasa marks are just for flow, syntax, grammar and spelling. Nothing fancy.

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 20 2013, 02:42 PM)
Novel:

(a) Pendahuluan, 2 isi, Penutup
(b) Pendahuluan, 3 isi, Penutup

Generally, that's the formula. Doesn't need a lot of elaboration because it's only worth 7/8 marks. If I'm not mistaken each isi is worth 2 marks. Isi and huraian (contoh teks) should be good enough.

Bahasa marks are just for flow, syntax, grammar and spelling. Nothing fancy.
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Yea, that's how I do it. But how do you write your contoh teks if you dont mind me asking.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 02:55 PM)
Yea, that's how I do it. But how do you write your contoh teks if you dont mind me asking.
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something along the lines of

Satu nilai yang terpapar dalam novel Konserto Terakhir ialah kerajinan. Contohnya, Hilmi bersikap rajin untuk meningkatkan kemahiran muziknya. Dia tetap menghadiri kelas muzik Encik Abu Bakar walaupun terpaksa berkerja keras sebagai pembantu stesen minyak Shell.
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 20 2013, 03:08 PM)
something along the lines of

Satu nilai yang terpapar dalam novel Konserto Terakhir ialah kerajinan. Contohnya, Hilmi bersikap rajin untuk meningkatkan kemahiran muziknya. Dia tetap menghadiri kelas muzik Encik Abu Bakar walaupun terpaksa berkerja keras sebagai pembantu stesen minyak Shell.
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I see. That's how I do it too. I thought when you said contoh teks, you meant an exact extraction from the novel. blink.gif The notes my teacher gave had those.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 03:31 PM)
I see. That's how I do it too. I thought when you said contoh teks, you meant an exact extraction from the novel. blink.gif  The notes my teacher gave had those.
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omg no. nooo. unless you're giving like teknik plot or something i guess ://
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Guys I got question regarding physics.

Q: The air pressure in a car tyre is 200kPA when the temperature is 25 degree Celsius. What is the air pressure in the tyre at temperature of 37 degree Celsius? (SPM 2006 Paper 1 Question 23)

Any help? icon_question.gif
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I see there's still some minor confusion when it comes to B.M . Hopefully this will clear things up :

Marks are awarded to ISI only . No need pendahuluan , penutup , or anything [ you'll need those for English only ] .

Elaborations should be short and succinct . No need specific snippets of the novel , not even in teknik plot ! LPM isn't so cruel . Here are some examples :

Berdasarkan satu novel yang anda telah kaji , huraikan dua latar masyarakat yang terdapat dalam novel tersebut . [7m]

Jawapan :

Novel yang saya kaji ialah Papa ... ( akhirnya kau tewas jua ! ) . Antara latar masyarakat yang terdapat dalam novel ini ialah masyarakat yang tabah menghadapi dugaan hidup . Buktinya , Jeffri tabah menghadapi dugaan iaitu isterinya Intan Maliana yang jatuh koma setelah melahirkan anak kembarnya . Latar masyarakat seterusnya ialah masyarakat yang gigih berusaha untuk mencapai kejayaan . Buktinya , Intan Julia gigh meneruskan pelajarannya walaupun terpaksa menerima hakikat bahawa ibunya koma sehingga mencapai keputusan yang cemerlang dalam peperiksaan SPM .


ISI : 2 + 2 = 4 marks
BAHASA : 3 marks

Berdasarkan dua novel yang telah anda kaji , huraikan teknik plot yang terdapat dalam novel tersebut .

Novel yang saya kaji ialah Papa dan Konserto Terakhir . Teknik plot yang terdapat dalam novel Papa ialah teknik imbas kembali . Contohnya , Mak Cik Noraini mengingati kembali peristiwa Intan Maliana yang mengalami komplikasi yang serius setelah melahirkan Intan Julia .

Teknik plot yang terdapat dalam novel Konserto Terakhir ialah teknik dialog . Contohnya , Hilmi berbual-bual dengan Hayati di kebun sayuran milik Datuk Johari pada waktu malam .


ISI : 2+2 = 4 marks
BAHASA : 4 marks

You don't need to memorise specific quotes from the novel to support teknik plot dialog .
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 20 2013, 04:53 PM)
Guys I got question regarding physics.

Q: The air pressure in a car tyre is 200kPA when the temperature is 25 degree Celsius. What is the air pressure in the tyre at temperature of 37 degree Celsius? (SPM 2006 Paper 1 Question 23)

Any help? icon_question.gif
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PV/T = Constant

Also , do remember to change the temperature from degree Celsius to Kelvin . blush.gif

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