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post Jun 5 2013, 01:19 AM

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone else is doing Question 2 (price index) of the Add Math project?

I have a question regarding Part 2 ( c ) (i). Where can I obtain the weightage values?

Thanks, good luck on your projects and enjoy the rest of your holidays!

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post Jun 5 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Jun 5 2013, 02:07 AM)
These weights are usually based upon expenditure data obtained from percentage of your family's monthly expenditure in Part 2 (a). You can also compare your weights with the estimates of the composition of consumption expenditure in the Consumer Price Index Malaysia April 2013 (Updated: 22/5/2013). Then, make a conclusion about your family's expenditure based on these findings. icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 5 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jun 5 2013, 12:41 PM)
Hey guys any idea how to do the reflection? Need to write a poem?!  shocking.gif
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post Oct 7 2013, 04:52 PM

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Hi everyone. I keep forgetting this thread exists. My trials were OK, got 9A+ out of 10, missed BM by 5 marks (really screwed up this time sigh).

30 days left on the clock, and I'm kind of freaking out a little (read: a lot). My school has not given us any tips or papers of note, but we did have SMKBU3's principal come and talk about sejarah. Nothing important though.

Anyway, just wanted to pop in and wish everyone here a good month of cramming. smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Screen @ Oct 7 2013, 06:01 PM)
Guys, any tips on group studying? Just had one today and all of us watched movies since morning till now @@
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Avoid group studying with close friends because you will definitely end up wasting time. If possible try to study alone because you can concentrate better - put your electronics away.

But you did ask for group studying advice, so:

1. Make a NO ELECTRONICS rule. First one to touch electronics has to belanja lunch or memorise and explain one chapter of sejarah or something like that. SWITCH OFF WIFI.
2. Avoid studying with good friends. It's super tempting to chat and procrastinate with friends. Find people you don't really talk to, or super kiasu people because you will feel motivated (eventually) by their determination.
3. Study with someone younger than you, or someone who doesn't know the material as well as you do. Teaching is an excellent way to reinforce your own knowledge. Teach a junior or a friend who's weaker in academics.
4. FOCUS. You came here to study, not to chill or watch the clock move or check your phone. It may be tough at first, but after 10 minutes of silence I think most people will have focused on what they're doing.
5. Don't interrupt your friend while they're studying, especially if you're both studying different subjects. They will feel annoyed and lose focus, meanwhile you are likely not focusing yourself.
6. Study in a library, or a place that requires absolute silence. You'll be less tempted to talk.
7. If group studying is not working out for you, don't hesitate to stop. Ultimately, you need to do what's best for you, not what everyone else is doing.

Good luck!

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post Oct 8 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 7 2013, 10:48 PM)
Not sure if you were being sarcastic or what , but 9A+ doesn't say that you screwed up , to me . By the way your username is familiar , you've been here ?
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Haha I was being pretty serious. I meant that I screwed up my BM - could've done better!

Yeah I pop in from time to time!
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post Oct 8 2013, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(ericling @ Oct 7 2013, 11:00 PM)
Wow all of you guys' results are amazing. Still struggling hard to get A+ but hope I can work hard on it.

Any scholarships available to apply now?
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What course are you planning to take? Cambridge A-levels? Edexcel A-levels? AUSMAT? SAM? Foundation in Science? Foundation in Arts? ADP?

Petronas and TNB scholarships need your actual SPM results as far as I know. I don't know where you plan on studying in the future, but Taylor's has a bursary that requires you to register first. INTI has a scholarship open but is closing very soon. Most colleges offer merit awards within 2 weeks of receiving your SPM results.

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post Oct 8 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(ericling @ Oct 8 2013, 10:59 AM)
I am not planning to study overseas so I think I will take foundation in business.
I am living in Klang so KL area would be the best choice.

What course are you planning to take then? smile.gif
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I'll be taking Cambridge A Levels in Sunway.


INTI has a scholarship for foundation in business smile.gif If you've missed scholarship season for Sunway and HELP, they do offer merit awards after SPM so no problems there, really!
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post Oct 8 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(ericling @ Oct 8 2013, 11:51 AM)
Cool! Sunway is one of my top options.
I just checked INTI and their scholarships is closing on 13th. Will try for that! What do you mean by merit awards?
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Merit awards/bursaries are result-based awards. They usually do something like RM200 per A and RM1000 per A+, for the more expensive colleges. Less expensive colleges like HELP might be more generous, I think. It differs from PreU scholarships (I'm defining these as scholarships that require interviews) in the way that PreU scholarships don't necessarily need top results for a top scholarship. I've found that most PreU scholarships are more about how you carry yourself during interviews. Results don't play a big part.
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post Oct 8 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Screen @ Oct 8 2013, 01:05 PM)
Anyone can suggest a Pre-U/Foundation course that I can take? I planned everything after my Pre-U/Foundation but not Pre-U/Foundation...

What I plan to take:
Degree in Accounting and Finance, after that, ACCA. Planning to take both in Sunway.
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Sunway requirements for ACCA suggests a minimum of 2 A-Levels, but I think minimum A-levels for most colleges is 3. Maybe you can do Economics and Math A-levels, with Psychology (seems popular) or English.

A-levels are dry and exam-based though, so that may not be for everyone.
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post Oct 8 2013, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 8 2013, 03:12 PM)
Are you done with your preparations ? I thought I had things up my sleeve after my trials , but I still am putting in constant effort . Those SPM-jitters are getting on my nerves though .

I'm interested in A-Levels by the way , banking on a bursary .
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Nope, maybe about halfway done? I haven't touched komsas or literature, although I mostly just wing literature. I'm mostly done with the sciences, just need to read the experiments and do more physics. I'm doing a couple of math and add math papers a week. I definitely need to look at accounts - I'm fine in general but it's the details I don't know. I'm now in the middle of sejarah now. Not fun.


All in all, definite A for all subjects, but needs more polishing up to A+. What's new, eh?

SPM jitters here too, hardcore. Although I seem to alternate between anxiety and apathy at the moment, not sure why. Take some time out to properly evaluate your preparedness, I find that really helps. smile.gif

Ooh, I'm hoping for the bursary, but trying not to get my hopes up. What A-level subjects do you plan on taking?

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post Oct 8 2013, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 8 2013, 07:38 PM)
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I see . So we have a potential straight-A+ student here .

I'm not that sure about winging literature for B.M . I actually prefer English's literature because I can write freely , give judgements and opinions --- which is what Literature's all about . B.M's , I find , is too rigid . SPM mark scheme has quite limited answers for KOMSAS questions , especially for the nilai/persoalan/pengajaran/etc part . I've got to find a day to re-read all those Cerpen T4 , Drama T5 and those 5 Prosa Traditional that haven't appeared in both Nov and Jun SPM papers . It's a risk abandoning the other texts , but it's a [safe] risk I think .

How do you find Moral by the way ? Have you memorised all the definisi's ? I find Rasional to be the Mother-of-Nilai's , where it can be applied to all situations , I always use that as a back-up answer in case I'm not confident with my other answers . Haven't done much practice . By the way , how do you come up with your KBKK answers for Moral ? I sometimes find myself coming up with answers that are 'beyond' the mark scheme . It's hard to think from a 'primary school' perspective sometimes ; considering how the mark scheme leans towards simple answers .

I'm planning to take Physics , Maths , Further Maths , I haven't decided on the 4th subject . Psychology / Economics / Chemistry seems intriguing .
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Emphasis on potential, hopefully that and my attempt at hard work will come to fruition.

Yeah, I agree completely. I find Komsas very, very rigid! so I'm not winging komsas all that much. I'll touch up the nilai and persoalan parts that you mentioned. I think your risk is quite safe - cerpen, drama and prosa somehow seem like a little more work than puisi/sajak anyway.

Moral is fine for me, I usually get above 95, but I think that may change because I'm not too sure how well my teacher actually marks. Yep, rasional (and kesederhanaan) are my mother of nilais. I have memorised all definisis, but will need to brush up, obviously.

If I recall correctly, the mark scheme does allow "terima jawapan lain yang sesuai" so as long as your answer is not too far-fetched it should be fine. I usually go for simple answers, like the kind of isi you might use in a UPSR essay. I'm sorry I can't be more of a help - I'm pretty used to giving simple answers, it just comes ~like that. I do find KBKK quite challenging sometimes, so I'll leave them for after I'm done spamming definisi.

Oh, that's interesting! I wanted to take further maths but since I'm hoping to do medicine in the future I figured it would be redudant to maths in my case. I'm quite excited to do chemistry because I hear it's quite different than SPM level, and I like chemistry. Somehow I feel like your personality suits economics. Obviously I'm talking out of my ass here because I don't actually know you well enough, but the way you write and organise things remind me of my friends who took economics in A-levels. (Debaters... You sound like one.)
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post Oct 9 2013, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(manutd96 @ Oct 9 2013, 09:44 AM)
Both also can. Im not sure if must write general or specific one
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Most books I've seen accept general. Specific would also contain the general word (eg "temperature of hydrochloric acid" contains the word "temperature") so I think it would also be accepted.
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post Oct 9 2013, 02:13 PM

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I have a significantly harder time thinking of C/H for moral essays. Still, it goes back to the same principle, I'm afraid. Nothing that I do to specifically help me out. As far as I know, you have to come up with different contohs for each. My moral teacher doesn't accept the same contoh more than once.

Haha. Guess I can spot a debater when I see one!

My preferences are:
BM 1 -- as long as it's some kind of fakta, doesn't matter which. I'm quite well-versed in masyarakat/ibu bapa/individu/ketatanegaraan
English 1 -- always the one word title story, although I'm starting to worry I may go out of point or anything like that.
Sejarah 2 - I usually do the four questions I can answer best. I have a few chapters in the bag, like Malayan Union - Pembentukan Malaysia and Madinah and Khalifah chapters.
Maths 2 - I always answer everything.
Add Maths 2 - I always answer everything.
Sciences - I always answer everything.

I tend to do my paper quite quickly, so I always have a lot of time left over to do more than the required questions... sweat.gif

For the ROR explanations, my teacher doesn't accept general answers. We are required to mention the specific particles. If I recall correctly most books don't really go into specifics, but she's taken marks off my paper for that before, and she's very strict, so I'd stick to specifics anyway.

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post Oct 9 2013, 06:08 PM

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My teacher says not recommended. Using pencil might cause your work to wear off, who knows what will happen during the process.
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I feel like using one of those pilot pens that you can rub off. The friction ones. You can't wear them off easily and they're so useful. Thoughts?
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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 9 2013, 02:21 PM)
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I see . Don't you check your answers , especially for Add Maths 2 ? I find myself making errors under exam conditions , so it's very important that I carefully check each question after answering .
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I do. I finish Add Math 2 (whole paper) in about one hour forty-five mins, the rest is checking time.

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post Oct 9 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(MrJohnny @ Oct 9 2013, 06:15 PM)
And how bout BM Paper 1,i ALWAYS dint manage to finish 350 words and out of ideas!Give me some tips?  rclxub.gif
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The most important tip ever: aim to write karangan fakta. If you notice, most karangan fakta use the same isi. For example:

Langkah-langkah:
1. Ibu bapa (menjadi teladan)
2. Didikan agama/moral
3. Kerajaan (kempen/program/aktiviti)
4. Sekolah (kurikulum, kokurikulum)
5. Sendiri (mempunyai inisiatif)/Rakan sebaya
6. Media massa (televisyen, radio, Internet)

These isi can fit almost any karangan fakta.

The key is to THINK LESS, WRITE MORE. If you keep thinking, you will never be able to finish. Memorise and read until you are so familiar with it that it just comes naturally. Try not to stop to think, just keep writing whatever comes to mind.

For karangan fakta, there is a format for the perenggan isi. It's ayat topik, ayat huraian, ayat contoh and ayat kesimpulan kecil. Just remember these and you should be fine. Quick (and very short) example:

(AT)Satu langkah memupuk sifat kepimpinan ialah ibu bapa perlulah menjadi teladan kepada anak. (AH)Setiap anak dilahirkan dengan fiil dan ibu bapalah yang bertanggungjawab membangunkan potensi anak-anak mereka. Bak kata pepatah, bapa borek, anak rintik, ibu bapa merupakan modal anak mereka sejak kecil lagi. Sekiranya ibu bapa tidak menunjukkan personaliti yang terunggul, sudah tentu anak mereka tidak akan dapat mengembangkan keperibadian diri dengan positif. (AC) Umpamanya, sekiranya ibu bapa seseorang tidak bertanggungjawab dan sering mengabaikan tugas, sudah tentunya seseorang itu tidak dapat menghayati kepentingan bertanggungjawab. (AKK)Oleh itu, memang tidak dapat kita nafikan bahawa ibu bapa perlulah menjadi contoh kepada anak-anak mereka.


Quite short and not that good, but you get the idea.


You MUST memorise a general pendahuluan and a general penutup. Go find a good pedahuluan and penutup and memorise it. Of course, be prepared to change it according to the question, but it will save you SO MUCH TIME. We usually waste the most time trying to think how to start, so save yourself the time and memorise at least two penutup and two pendahuluan that can work with most karangan.

350 words is not that hard, don't panic! A grade A BM karangan usually requires about 800 words, but if you just want to write 350, A good pendahuluan can about 80-100 words, put in 3 isi and a penutup and you're all set smile.gif
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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 9 2013, 09:40 PM)
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I always spend too much time on graphs and statistics [ you know , standard deviation and variance where there are a lot of calculations ? ] . Plus I'm extra careful to avoid committing mistakes , so these factors slow me down . You do Linear Programming too ?
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I guess I just have a lot of practice...
Yeah, those can be real time-wasters. I like linear programming though because it's just a straight line. Mod math graphs are HORRIBLE. Curves are not my thing. Yeah, I do all the questions and graphs. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Screen @ Oct 9 2013, 06:14 PM)
Its expensive, its can be rubbed off easily with friction, doesn't feel good when writing karangans and essays.
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Good point. I don't like ballpoint though. Guess I'll just have to suck it up and get used to it.
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post Oct 9 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 9 2013, 10:41 PM)
What about ambiguous cases and sketching triangles in S.O.T ?
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Oh I hate those, but I do them too. Usually I leave them for the end though.

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