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Klawo
post Sep 8 2013, 05:28 PM

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hi, normally for WD offhand, what type of offhand is better? go for the set of manajuma?

ps: currently trying the bear bat combo. for 2handed using skorn and LS however, manage to ge a new 1 handed manajura weapon so therefore would like any sifu opinion. thanksss
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Klawo @ Sep 8 2013, 05:28 PM)
hi, normally for WD offhand, what type of offhand is better? go for the set of manajuma?

ps: currently trying the bear bat combo. for 2handed using skorn and LS however, manage to ge a new 1 handed manajura weapon so therefore would like any sifu opinion. thanksss
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Serpent has better attributes than the chicken.

2H skorn is better than 1H for me.
Better mana management with 2H so that you can spam your bears & bats.

You can try 1H with full Zuni set. And find out the mana management for 1H build.
I can borrow you a Zuni mojo for testing purpose.
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post Sep 12 2013, 10:32 AM

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sifu sifu sekalian,

now what is the best wd build to farm exp and gears?
skill set and equipment plz...

play my wd in PS3 LOL...
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post Sep 12 2013, 12:48 PM

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Cain set
Ruby gem on head
Hellfire ring
Highest mp...

And not forgetting play father mother gentlemen as bonus track

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post Sep 12 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 12 2013, 10:20 AM)
Serpent has better attributes than the chicken.

2H skorn is better than 1H for me.
Better mana management with 2H so that you can spam your bears & bats.

You can try 1H with full Zuni set. And find out the mana management for 1H build.
I can borrow you a Zuni mojo for testing purpose.
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thanks dude, but i sold off my 1H and bought a 2H skorn with 6% LS. Decided to go with 2H


NAT SET VS ZUNI SET
not sure if anyone got mention b4 but wanna ask about nat ring and shoe vs zuni shoe and ring(pox).

NAT as i have a 5%CC nat ring, together with shoe combo for NAT that give me a total of 12% CC, about 180int from bth ring and shoe.

ZUNI ring 5% and normal zuni shoe. (forgot details, am out atm) however with this 2 will complete Zuni combo which grant mana regen.

so my question is although BOTH give the same DPS, except that with NAT i get 7% more CC, as for ZUNI set more damage and mana regen, which would be is preferable?


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post Sep 12 2013, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Klawo @ Sep 12 2013, 12:49 PM)
thanks dude, but i sold off my 1H and bought a  2H skorn with 6% LS. Decided to go with 2H
NAT SET VS ZUNI SET
not sure if anyone got mention b4 but wanna ask about nat ring and shoe vs zuni shoe and ring(pox).

NAT as i have a 5%CC nat ring, together with shoe combo for NAT that give me a total of 12% CC, about 180int from bth ring and shoe.

ZUNI ring 5% and normal zuni shoe. (forgot details, am out atm) however with this 2 will complete Zuni combo  which grant mana regen.

so my question is although BOTH give the same DPS, except that with NAT i get 7% more CC, as for ZUNI set more damage and mana regen, which would be is preferable?
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Zuni set for mana generation.
You need mana to spam your skills.
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post Sep 13 2013, 10:38 AM

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Changed my nat ring and shoe and now using zuni set, guess the mana generation really is useful.

Here is my WD, what should i upgrade next? I know for pants should go depth digger 2xx int with vit and AR or shoulr i go for blackthorn pants which give me LoH?

my wd
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post Sep 13 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Klawo @ Sep 13 2013, 10:38 AM)
Changed my nat ring and shoe and now using zuni set, guess the mana generation really is useful.

Here is my WD, what should i upgrade next? I know for pants should go depth digger 2xx int with vit and AR or shoulr i go for blackthorn pants which give me LoH?

my wd
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It is a grave mistake to use Inna's pants on skorn build WD.
Go get a rare pants with high INT & VIT + 2 sockets.
It gives you more INT that gives you AR & DPS. It gives you more EHP.
Get a better Unity ring, with CC & CD.

Try to have more than 550K EHP (based on d3up).
You will have a new experience with better EHP.

You can try this skill setup.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;bca!ccZYZZ
You can change the spirit walk rune to Jaunt.
You can change soul harvest rune to vengeful spirit
You can change hex to big bad voodoo

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post Sep 13 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 13 2013, 10:41 AM)
It is a grave mistake to use Inna's pants on skorn build WD.
Go get a rare pants with high INT & VIT + 2 sockets.
Get a better Unity ring, with CC & CD.
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Yeah, last time my WD for mp 0-1 for speed farming, so using inna pants for mspd. Thanks for the help!
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QUOTE(Klawo @ Sep 13 2013, 10:47 AM)
Yeah, last time my WD for mp 0-1 for speed farming, so using inna pants for mspd. Thanks for the help!
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With your DPS, you should be able to farm MP7-8.
Just need to push up your EHP.

P/S If you want fast farming, with your DPS, you should be able to 1-shot most of the mobs @ MP4.

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post Sep 14 2013, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 13 2013, 10:49 AM)
With your DPS, you should be able to farm MP7-8.
Just need to push up your EHP.

P/S If you want fast farming, with your DPS, you should be able to 1-shot most of the mobs @ MP4.
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atm farming mp5, waiting for legs to drop smile.gif low on cash now so will get better gears later, now just buying cheapo stuff lol
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post Sep 14 2013, 09:26 AM

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Hey some interesting WD changes from datamining RoS?
src: diablofans..

Copy over the disclaimer...
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IMPORTANT - Chances are none of these will go unchanged before release
Remember this is not even a beta build - These are NOWHERE near finished / balanced. Expect to see many, many more changes to all of these abilities (and others) before release

Copied some of the more apparent changes over here,
Soul Harvest
Siphon : Gain 5780 Life for every enemy harvested enemy.
Languish : Reduce the movement speed of harvested enemies by 80% and attack speed by 50% for 3 seconds.
Swallow Your Soul : Gain mana and increase maximum Mana by 5% for each enemy harvested.

Sacrifice, For the Master : Gain 16515 Life for each Zombie Dog you sacrifice.
Spirit Barrage, Phlebotomize : Enemies hit have a 100% chance to be Charmed for 2 seconds.
Firebats, Vampire Bats : Firebats no longer has a channeling cost.

Think these are 3 new passives and a new skill,
Creeping Death
stat : Your Haunt and Locust Swarm abilities last almost forever.
desc : "He ran from darkness and from fire. On the tenth day he stopped running."

Physical Attunement
stat : You gain 60 Physical Resistance for every enemy within 8 yards. / The range of this effect is increased by your gold pickup radius.
desc : "When needed, you can always draw upon the help of those around you."

Midnight Feast
stat : You can have 1 additional Zombie Dog summoned at one time. The damage of your Zombie Dogs and Gargantuan is increased 50%.
desc : Only a fool tries to cheat death. The wise offer a fair trade. (similar description for GI, but saw GI is still around.. hmm.gif)

Carrion Swarm
desc : Summons a swarm of carrion insects at target location for 10 seconds with a 21 yard radius. The swarm envelops any creature that it touches causing enemies to take 50% increased damage for 10 seconds. When an enemy dies while under the effects of the swarm it spreads to nearby enemies.
stat : Carrion Swarm
Rune A : Reduce the movement speed of affected enemies by 30%.
Rune B : Gain 5% Mana for each afflicted enemy.
Rune C : Enemies that die while under the effect of the swarm have a 20% chance to drop a health globe.
Rune D : Increase the radius of the swarm by 150%.
NYI - Rune E : NYI
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post Sep 15 2013, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Sep 14 2013, 09:26 AM)
Hey some interesting WD changes from datamining RoS?
src: diablofans..

Copy over the disclaimer...

Copied some of the more apparent changes over here,
Soul Harvest
Siphon : Gain 5780 Life for every enemy harvested enemy.
Languish : Reduce the movement speed of harvested enemies by 80% and attack speed by 50% for 3 seconds.
Swallow Your Soul : Gain mana and increase maximum Mana by 5% for each enemy harvested.

Sacrifice, For the Master : Gain 16515 Life for each Zombie Dog you sacrifice.
Spirit Barrage, Phlebotomize : Enemies hit have a 100% chance to be Charmed for 2 seconds.
Firebats, Vampire Bats : Firebats no longer has a channeling cost.

Think these are 3 new passives and a new skill,
Creeping Death
stat : Your Haunt and Locust Swarm abilities last almost forever.
desc : "He ran from darkness and from fire. On the tenth day he stopped running."

Physical Attunement
stat : You gain 60 Physical Resistance for every enemy within 8 yards. / The range of this effect is increased by your gold pickup radius.
desc : "When needed, you can always draw upon the help of those around you."

Midnight Feast
stat : You can have 1 additional Zombie Dog summoned at one time. The damage of your Zombie Dogs and Gargantuan is increased 50%.
desc : Only a fool tries to cheat death. The wise offer a fair trade. (similar description for GI, but saw GI is still around.. hmm.gif)

Carrion Swarm
desc : Summons a swarm of carrion insects at target location for 10 seconds with a 21 yard radius. The swarm envelops any creature that it touches causing enemies to take 50% increased damage for 10 seconds. When an enemy dies while under the effects of the swarm it spreads to nearby enemies.
stat : Carrion Swarm
Rune A : Reduce the movement speed of affected enemies by 30%.
Rune B : Gain 5% Mana for each afflicted enemy.
Rune C : Enemies that die while under the effect of the swarm have a 20% chance to drop a health globe.
Rune D : Increase the radius of the swarm by 150%.
NYI - Rune E : NYI
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It seems the expansion is WD friendly. laugh.gif
Sacrifice for C4 build seems good. And the diamond gem will let C4 build WD drop Homunculus mojo, which is good for DPS/EHP boost.
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post Sep 24 2013, 10:15 AM

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so far i see WD skills is mainly for mass mob attack..any skills that can be used for bossing ? Hehe newbie WD here..
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post Sep 24 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Sep 24 2013, 10:15 AM)
so far i see WD skills is mainly for mass mob attack..any skills that can be used for bossing ? Hehe newbie WD here..
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I use bears on mass mobs.
I use firebats/COB on bosses.
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post Sep 30 2013, 10:07 AM

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I think i failed again to play as a WD (tried so many times before) sad.gif ... MP3 public also almost die/die.. I met in public game, a WD less than 40k, less 4k armor (dps less than me, w/o LoH and LS shocking.gif ) survive no problem..

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post Sep 30 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 30 2013, 10:07 AM)
I think i failed again to play as a WD (tried so many times before) sad.gif ... MP3 public also almost die/die.. I met in public game, a WD less than 40k, less 4k armor (dps less than me, w/o LoH and LS  shocking.gif ) survive no problem..
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Impossibru!!!!!
All you need is a full set of zuni.
Even if you equip with most pariah skorn, with 5.6% LS, you should be able to walk in the park at MP3.
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post Sep 30 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 30 2013, 10:11 AM)
Impossibru!!!!!
All you need is a full set of zuni.
Even if you equip with most pariah skorn, with 5.6% LS, you should be able to walk in the park at MP3.
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dont mind lah.. will sell this gears a.s.a.p.. will focus on TR Monk and barb onli.. damn jealous watch WD melt packs in FoM shakehead.gif
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Haven't really played WD for a long time.

What's the usual build with firebats these days?


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post Sep 30 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 30 2013, 10:51 AM)
Haven't really played WD for a long time.

What's the usual build with firebats these days?
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if i not mistaken, use locust swarm with pestilence rune to attract thrash mob then barbeque them with firebats with cloud of bats rune.

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