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 Witch Doctor Discussion v2, Who let the dogs OUT!

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VT-Ten
post Sep 30 2013, 04:20 PM

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hi guys,
i'm venturing in to WD and hope you sifus can give me a pointer or 2.
started off my WD with firebats/COB using a skorn. but since WD is not my primary char (using wiz now), i lend out my gears to a friend.

last night i was browsing AH and saw 18 sec Homunculus for 300m. so i gatal went and build a 0 dog, buying along other necessary gears. with 0-dog, i cant tank mp10. i was able to when i was using COB. can some sifu tips me some advise only build?

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post Sep 30 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Sep 30 2013, 04:20 PM)
hi guys,
i'm venturing in to WD and hope you sifus can give me a pointer or 2.
started off my WD with firebats/COB using a skorn. but since WD is not my primary char (using wiz now), i lend out my gears to a friend.

last night i was browsing AH and saw 18 sec Homunculus for 300m. so i gatal went and build a 0 dog, buying along other necessary gears. with 0-dog, i cant tank mp10. i was able to when i was using COB. can some sifu tips me some advise only build?

My WD

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I check your gears, skill setup, attack speed, health globes and EHP.
They seem ok. MP10 should be doable.

3 reasons I could think of.

1) You are not used to it as zd dog build has rather short range attack.

2) insufficient ehp. Try replace your passive/zombie handler with jungle fortitude. If you have better survivability, it means you need to push up your ehp.

3) stack more health globes.i remember I used to stack more than 15k health globe.
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post Oct 1 2013, 02:59 AM

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just started to replay my D3. Any advice on what I should get? My skorn sux. I bought the wrong skorn earlier, went for a 500+ int skorn but didnt realise the importance of LS. keep dying. End up buying this noob skorn.
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post Oct 1 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 1 2013, 02:59 AM)
just started to replay my D3. Any advice on what I should get? My skorn sux. I bought the wrong skorn earlier, went for a 500+ int skorn but didnt realise the importance of LS. keep dying. End up buying this noob skorn.
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post Oct 1 2013, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 30 2013, 06:18 PM)
I check your gears, skill setup, attack speed, health globes and EHP.
They seem ok. MP10 should be doable.

3 reasons I could think of.

1) You are not used to it as zd dog build has rather short range attack.

2) insufficient ehp. Try replace your passive/zombie handler with jungle fortitude. If you have better survivability,  it means you need to push up your ehp.

3) stack more health globes.i remember I used to stack more than 15k health globe.
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thanks ALeUNe. i've tweaked it a lil and yes, it was due to lack of ehp (particularly vit and armor). will save up for health globe, currently pokai already. which gear do you think is best having health globe?
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post Oct 1 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Oct 1 2013, 09:58 AM)
thanks ALeUNe. i've tweaked it a lil and yes, it was due to lack of ehp (particularly vit and armor). will save up for health globe, currently pokai already. which gear do you think is best having health globe?
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EHP.
You've got high armor. It is not easy to have 4K of armor for WD/Wiz/DH.
But I think your HP is low though.
I'd suggest to change your pants to rare pants, 160+ INT + 250+ VIT + 2 sockets.

Health globes.
You can stack health globes from Vile Ward and rare pants.


2)
Some suggestions on skill setup.
Replace gargantuan with firebats/CoB.
2 reasons of doing it.
Firstly, gargantuan is pretty much useless by today's standard. The damage is not good enough.
Secondly, you have unused mana. You might as well utilize it with burst damage skill like firebats/CoB. You may use plague bats too.
You may watch below video to get the idea of integrating firebats/CoB to your ZD build.
(Yes, i know the video is not exactly zd dog build. Nonetheless it is a viable skill to enhance your damage of your build. It's likely you need to spam your keyboard like playing CM Wiz laugh.gif )



Mass confusion is no good. The duration of additional damage is too short, I'd call it negligible.
Replace mass confusion/Paranoia with either big bad voodoo/slam dance or hex/jinx.
Big bad voodoo gives you and team players huge damage boost (as compared to mass confusion). It has 67% longer duration too.
Hex/jinx helps you to reduce 1-2 elites that could attack you concurrently in real time battlefield. It will indirectly give you better survivability. It gives you additional damage on target on the other hand.


3)
Beside higher damage output, the reason to have fast attack speed in ZD dog build is to give you faster health recovery.
You can reduce your attack speed if you have LS weapon.
LS weapon gives you life recovery and hence better survivability.
If you use firebats, you'll get huge life recovery with LS weapon.
And it is possible to drop sacrifice/for the master and replace with sacrifice/provoke the pack. You'll get huge damage buff.

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post Oct 1 2013, 01:20 PM

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anyone knows how much one should spend on a skorn for a WD? for zombie bear/CoB build ?
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post Oct 1 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Oct 1 2013, 09:41 AM)
u gotta show us wat u got , ur Your Battletag plz  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Oct 1 2013, 01:20 PM)
anyone knows how much one should spend on a skorn for a WD? for zombie bear/CoB build ?
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Tough question. It depends on your budget.
Get the best skorn you can afford.
A skorn can only be replaced by a better skorn.

Personally I had changed 3 skorns.
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post Oct 1 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 1 2013, 01:26 PM)
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http://d3up.com/b/1105971

Pretty low EHP. But it's ok if you do low MPs.
Swap to Amethyst on your voodoo mask if you need more HP.

You've got good AR.
I'd suggest to get a TWH without AR but with tons of life.

You look for a pair of rare pants with 140+ INT + 200+ VIT + AR + 2 sockets.

You're good to go. Should be able to do MP7-8.



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post Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 1 2013, 02:23 PM)
http://d3up.com/b/1105971

Pretty low EHP. But it's ok if you do low MPs.
Swap to Amethyst on your voodoo mask if you need more HP.

You've got good AR.
I'd suggest to get a TWH without AR but with tons of life.

You look for a pair of rare pants with 140+ INT + 200+ VIT + AR + 2 sockets.

You're good to go. Should be able to do MP7-8.
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What is TWH?
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post Oct 1 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM)
What is TWH?
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Ohh I think I got what u mean. The witching hour belt??

I am bidding on it now. I have 800m in my bank now. Trying to get some suggestions on what item I should change.
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post Oct 1 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:40 PM)
Oh I think I got what u mean. The witching hour belt??

I am bidding on it now. I have 800m in my bank now. Trying to get some suggestions on what item I should change.
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Yes, it's the witching hour.

You have good budget.
TWH is cheap nowadays, get TWH with VIT + life%
Look for rare pants with good INT + VIT + 2 sockets.
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post Oct 2 2013, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 1 2013, 08:15 PM)
Yes, it's the witching hour.

You have good budget.
TWH is cheap nowadays, get TWH with VIT + life%
Look for rare pants with good INT + VIT + 2 sockets.
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how about my current eq?

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post Oct 2 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 2 2013, 12:55 PM)
how about my current eq?
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post Oct 2 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 2 2013, 12:55 PM)
how about my current eq?
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I checked your gears, it's the same as I last saw.
http://d3up.com/b/1108709

Upgrade belt to push up your dps.
Upgrade rare pants to push up your EHP.
I believe both will cost you not more than 500m.

If you still have gold to spend, go replace your Zuni's mask or ring with cc.
Last I checked, Zuni's voodoo mask and ring were pretty cheap. Harga runtuh. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 2 2013, 02:24 PM)
I checked your gears, it's the same as I last saw.
http://d3up.com/b/1108709

Upgrade belt to push up your dps.
Upgrade rare pants to push up your EHP.
I believe both will cost you not more than 500m.

If you still have gold to spend, go replace your Zuni's mask or ring with cc.
Last I checked, Zuni's voodoo mask and ring were pretty cheap. Harga runtuh.  laugh.gif
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lester1...4/hero/14342735

can check again.
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post Oct 2 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 2 2013, 04:02 PM)
http://d3up.com/b/1109001

Better DPS and EHP now.
Change your belt to TWH will give you more DPS.

Walk in the park @ MP0-5
Doable @ MP6-8.

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post Oct 2 2013, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 2 2013, 05:14 PM)
http://d3up.com/b/1109001

Better DPS and EHP now.
Change your belt to TWH will give you more DPS.

Walk in the park @ MP0-5
Doable @ MP6-8.

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able to do mp 10 already. but not so efficient only. can't kill butcher sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2013, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Oct 2 2013, 06:37 PM)
able to do mp 10 already. but not so efficient only. can't kill butcher sad.gif
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Yes, doable with your current EHP.
Need to push up DPS.

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