U should try it out Henry ... get a cheap skorn with OS + Bleed chance. It kills faster then using Bears on lower mp, also u dont need to get close to use Acid Rain (in the case of tough elites). My playstyle is = SW/Jaunt + Horrify/Stalker for max MS into a pack .. as they run away from Horrify i just use 1 click of Acid Rain (targetting myself) AR large AoE ensure most of the mobs get hit.. when they come back to u they are either dead or get killed by my pets. Against elites i spam few Acid Rain from a distance (timing the attack few seconds apart to ensure continuous DoT), as Elites get close i can SW away and use Sacrifice to blast them dead lolz .. if the boss of the pack still alive u can use Horrify to chase it away then finish it off with RoT. Having Grave Injustice passive will enable u to chain this combo as long as u keep killing mobs .. CD decrease on SW & Horrify from all the killing. In conclusion u move fast, u kill mobs fast, u get zdog to be used as suicide bombers & mana backup in case of emergency. Sweeeeet~!!!

p/s: works very well on low mp games for fast paragon levelling (even against RD u will hv no problem since u r not using bears ... RoT n Acid Rain returns back heath if u have sufficient LoH). Increased mob health on higher mp favors using bears for max damage possible.

MP 0-1 gives the best xp/per hour depending on your damage output & killing speed based on some runs i hv done. At mp3 it takes longer for the mobs to die (Acid Rain being a DoT attack). I usually do item/key runs on mp3 using a socketed Sun Keeper with GF/GI build using bears as main damage dealer. Comparing the 2, Skorn + Acid Rain vs Sun Keeper + Bears (although at same total dps 90-93k dps) i find using bears is faster. Increased MF from Sun Keeper & mp3 is why i prefer the latter for mp3.

yesterday bought a new pox... 50m...

replaced my old one... 89int, 84vit, 70ar, 34cd, 3cc, os...

ok now i just hope my stuff can sell...

LoH wont cut it if u using bears against RD mobs .. unless u r using RoT @ AR @ any DoT type attacks then yeah ... high LoH can help against RD mobs. However all those DoT type attacks hv low dmg and it'll take like forever to kill RD mobs on higher mp games.
If u intend to use bears against RD mobs, then the best way is to get a high LS 2h-wpn (doesnt necessarily hv to be a LS SKorn). Get a cheap rare 2h wpn with at least 1k dps & 5% LS (Vigilance legendary polearm is a good choise as well.. try get one with %stun @ freeze + open socket @ Warmonger) and see for yourself if u can use bears against RD mobs and not lose health while spamming bears.

Once i hit 100k dps n more .. LS will shine better than LoH so if u alrdy hv LS u can start reducing LoH on ur gears... personally i only hv 200+ LoH from Unity ring just to help out when spamming AR in emergency cases to get back health fast.

Actually since after I powered up my WD to around 70K dps, I started to get frustrated when I learned that skill are quite IMBA comparing the clases.

Barb and Monk personally already have damage reduction 30%
Monk even have the OWE passive skill and Mantra
DH already have those non cooldown evasive and LS skill and passive even have inrease damage and def skill (eg Archery and another 10% of something cant remember what skill name) and what make DH better they have separate mana pool Hatred and Discipline, and got instant regen skill
Wizard have Armor Skill and Freezing (in my opinion maybe second worse after WD) but at least no mana issue and attack got chance to increase back arcane pool (please correct me if I am wrong)

What really WD have that can be boost at?
Bear is nice but really big mana consumption
Voodoo is nice but look at the Cool Down
Passive is good but all comes with CONS (eg POV increase mana consumption 30%, GI and GF all Radius dependency causing you to force 1 magic attribute in armor to fully utilize it)

So what I trying to say is, just dont compare across classes... when people saying something that char better this char better... oh well...

aiks.. it is common secret that WD is a failed design from blizzard

blizzard keep toying around with WD skills but still yet to solve the resource generating system for WD

b4 this we still got 300% VQ.... now.. sigh~

Talk about 2 life, not sure about Barb

But Monk also got what.... just that they permanent sacrifice a slot for OWE
DH Gloom enough said for second life, no cool down, and instant regent and smoke and acrobat no cooldown, enough for second chance
Wiz got Archon although dono what is that but I think got certain other passive that can boost defense alot? Not sure didnt really look into Wiz skill

Carried is 1 of the WD skill, I mean WD is design to carried, else even worse... and that what party are for... well when you see at WD point of view, we are sacrificing 2 skill slot for Dog and Gargan you know, so pros cons is there

Mana regen rate actually is not fine, until you are highly gear... and instead of gearing up POWERLY with Zuni set, you need to depend on VQ which again waste another slot...

Nothing WD can be boost of except the ToTD 20 pickup radius but again, this is not the BIS so pros and cons

Ya lol....

Btw what is the reason you all choose WD? I mean for those Main Char is WD like me...

I get the game late, er late October or somewhere there where my friend already Inferno level 60.

I asked them you all dont have what class, they said WD ok i played then they quit 1@#$%&

Well, I mained a WD too. To me, its rather fun to play with despite their slow hitting pets. But I am still in love with my gargantuan being able to tank or at least buy some time for me to run away.

IMHO, WD is more to like a "back-up" player if played in a team. I dont know but usually my team mates died and I will be the one running around trying to revive them during UBER runs. Maybe they are nubs but yeah, 3-seconds SW will enable to you revive anyone without disturbance. Just need to time it well.

Anyway, they can dish out reasonable damage, depending on gear as I am standing around 100k +/- without pierce the veil. Mana wise, I dont usually get drained unless its Extra Health mob in high MP. Just SW and run, alt tab, view FB, tab back after 10 seconds

WD pets are still ... erm.. NO good. But they can tank pretty well especially gargantuan but I have to sac a slot for it. >< haha

4 WD hard to high MP ler...

see how imba barb dh wiz monk... our wd fight uber really like paper fight fire...

yes doable... but hard i think... LOL...

1st thing 1st... Who DPS???

I am not sure whether my wd do able for mp9/mp10... but lets test it out

invite me...

imho & from own playing experience i would say 5.5%LS is the minimum to deal with RD packs at higher mp (up to 10), as long as u have high CHD (300% min) & high CC (i used to hover arnd 36% but i think 40% is the minimum sweet spot) however u also need good EHP to survive few hits & not die ... stacking physical resist &/@ melee reduction% together with high armor will make it much easier ofc. There are few exceptions .. MINIONS being the most obvious but also certain RD packs combined with particular affix such as Life Link can also pose a problem ... personally there are 2 ways i deal with them .. a) spam bears only when SW is up @ when i know they are at low enough health to drop globes & b) using Spirit Barrage/Pheb to get xtra 3% LS (Pheb is great against single targets but not so against large numbers of mobs). Bears FTW! ... no other WD skill can demolish huge packs in high MP super fast like Bears do (especially if u are buffed by SH & GF bonus).

My fav move as a WD is to jaunt into a pack .. SH/VS to whittle their health down & get huge intel/dps bonus .. cast Stalker to get armor buff & also chase them away (s0 that i wont get swarmed with mobs) then unleash the full fury of bears (i notice mobs die faster when get hit by bears as they are running away .. maybe during that time their defence is lowered?) .. u prolly kill enough to get CD on all skills (via GI passive) so that u can chain combo to next pack. Once buffed, nxt pack would die much faster ... that's why when i see an elite pack with white mobs around them .. i take the white mobs out 1st to buff myself then only target elite pack ... unless ofc the e pack are RD .. so i keep the white mobs to leech life of them (nest & prophet who resurrect are good source of free health lolz)

1st thing 1st... the 0cd dogs leave the globes... if the owner took the globes, our Gruesome Feast will stack???

coz i no use gruesome feast ytd... if the globes can give us 10% INT and MANA, then got chance wor...