Why u don't need to cast AR faster? Cast AR on pack 1 and then pack 2 is better if you can do it faster.

DoT attacks are pretty much useless for low level mp farming, why do u want DoT attacks even? burst damage is the best.

GF is more for 0cd zombie dog build
where the zombie dog pick the rune that can drop health globe

for other build mayb can try on the grasp of dead with health globe rune.. otherwise i find it quite hard to maintain the stacks from health globe~

Playing high MP... Tanking alone is not enough... just not enough.
i.e. MP10, we expect all players can play their role and die less in MP10. When it comes to MP10 uber, all players must be able to kill the bosses in 8min.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 18 2012, 04:58 PM

A good fact pointed out by Aleune here ... mana issue for WD ... on low lvl mp u wont notice it at all .. but on higher mp is where u find urself OOM more frequently. This is where WD is at a disadvantage ... i hope Blizz do sumthing about WD mana issues (eg lessen mana cost @ better low mana attack that can generate mana faster)

With my current gear setup i can farm quite fast up to mp6 without going OOM .. but anything higher than that i will start to hear the annoying msg "You dont have enough mana" hahaha

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Added on December 18, 2012, 5:01 pmBcos 1 AR attack is enough to kill whole pack bro .. DoT ensure that if the mob hv a bit of health left it will still die after u are alrdy long gone using Jaunt/Stalker to next pack (include Skorn Bleed into the equation and even higher health mobs will still die after 1 attack of AR)

Useless or not depending on each own experience playing such builds ... i can do burst dmg using Bears on low level mp farming but the hassle of getting close n all make me pick AR .. see mob .. click mob ... jaunt/stalk to next mob ... high PR make sure u wont miss any gold dropped .. farming made easy n fast

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 18 2012, 05:01 PM

i will suggest blizzard buff all the mana regen mechanic:
some idea...lol
1) all mana regeneration item add 50% more regen, like used to regen 14mana bcome regen 21mana, like how they nerf IAS item last time
2) complete zuni set bonus 10mana on kill become gain 5 mana on hit from primary skill
3) vision quest regen to 50%
4) spiritual attunement add 30% max mana instead of 20%
5) etc

+1

If blizz do this maybe, just maybe WD can start doing mp10 without running into mana problem

The thing is from what you guys say, WD have mana problem and is hindering your progress. Well this is tricky cuz if blizz were to tweak the mana issue, suddenly you might get too much mana and some start spamming bears like poison darts. Then, the community is gonna shout for a nerf again.

Is gonna take time la cuz Jay Wilson plays barb only.

Depends on your skill and gears only actually.. my build and gears allowse to have enough mana all the time.. have to plan ur mana consumption.. thats how i do it..

Not expecting "unlimited" mana to a point can spam bears forever something along the lines of what other classes hv .. eg crits generates mana (which also wont be imba since hard for WD to get high crit on gears)

Also depend on what mp u r playing bcos the more health mobs hv = more mana need to be used to kill them b4 u go OOM .. u can either use low mana attacks such as splinters, ghost bomb @ RoT and take forever to kill an elite pack on high mp (8-10) or u can use high mana attacks such as Bears and kill faster but run the risk of going OOM .. either way mana limits the killing speed/efficiency of WD and so far mana regen (on gears + passives) wont supply u enough mana to kill on high mp b4 u go OOM ... even using low dmg sucky attacks such as widowmaker @ spined dart wont generate enough mana .. ofc on low lvl mp there will be np with lack of mana.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 18 2012, 07:46 PM

aiyoh, when play game the most important part of it is you must have fun. If you are having fun playing with DH/WD why bother the others..... your awesomeness got nothing to do with any business at all

Mana.... blizzard are in a tight spot lol~ if they give us anything above 140 mana reg per sec perma then we will 100% spam skills di.... and when they dont give... we will see ourself as inefficient

ya we are not requesting unlimited mana...

but really, 4 out of 5 class no having mana issue is ok... where wd requesting more mana is not ok?

well... doesnt matter WD gear cheap is due to this also lol so give and take la...

maybe nerf other is better than boost WD if so many ppl think will imba the game when upgrading WD

basically there is no way WD can easily have unlimited mana to zombie bear as long as the mana cost is 140

attk speed 1.0 per sec need mana regen 140 per sec (need another 95 mana regen)
attk speed 1.5 per sec need mana regen 140x1.5=210 per sec (need another 165 mana regen)
attk speed 2.0 per sec need mana regen 140x2 = 280 per sec (need another 235 mana regen)
so basically is we cant generate mana as fast as we spam bears if we attk faster~

Thats why for Bear users imho its better to use 2h wpn with low attack speed ... u hit harder with higher crits without running the risk of going OOM. So u focus u dps gears (gloves, rings, ammy) to get highest CC & CD possible to crit more often and harder.. not going for ias, therefore trifecta gears will make it slightly cheaper.. coupled with high LS on a 2h wpn ... each crit will replenish ur health pool very fast. The downside is u cannot rely on ToTD for pickup radius so u sacrifice 1 random roll on some gears for pickup radius ... a fair tradeoff considering the high dps u gain from it. Your paper dps will show lower dps than those who stack ias but in reality u deal more dmg thru crits.

Bears (3 x 236% wpn dmg) (using high base dmg 2h wpn) x max crit hit dmg possible (300% from Skorn + 100% from 2 rings + 100% on ammy + 50% on gloves = awesome crit dmg .. if only we can sustain mana better

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 19 2012, 11:49 AM

I can solo farm until MP 7 with a couple of death but I think pets really do their job in tanking and letting me run away lol ~ but when it comes to uber boss at MP 7 (4 players) it is surely an issue when it comes to mana. 0 mana, run around, wait a while and come back with full bears

why WD? my 1st char is Monk. stucked DPS @ 20K. low on gold. dulan.

then see not many play WD. so WD then... LOL...

and owww yes... my mana not a issue... but i die b4 OOM...

tested Ghom MP10, mati katak like TotD...

Been farming mp0 with around 80k dps

Sunkeeper x2 + HF ring x2 (follower)

Results are quite good! Didn't calculate time per run but seeing more greens

Damn ~ I didnt notice that we can place HF ring on follower.. I melted my HF rings.. only left 1 on my finger now. FML ><

huh??? dafok... i need sunkeeper than... LOL...

Yeah this is what ive been doin for some time alrdy 2 x Sun Keeper = arnd 50% MF (which equates to 2 mp level) so basically u can do mp0 with same MF as doing mp2 but way faster killing speed (benefits GF/GI, CoL, Jaunt/Stalker combo). I run mp0 with 84k dps only but still deliver frequent crits with Acid Rain which melts white mobs fast.. elite packs are dealt with some Bears @ Sac when mana is low.
This morning's speed run alrdy gv me few legs with IK chest & Shen Long fist being "worthy" drops

Craft a vitality HF ring and hope for a life%, MF & GF rolls (another roll can be either str, armor @ AR) for the best HF ring on Templar follower.
The best setup for Templar follower for MF is: Sun Keeper + Stormshield with 20% MF + puzzle ring (for that xtra gob drops) + vit HF ring + ammy with high MF & vit ... relic try to get high vit + armor/ar/block chance.
I switch to Azurewrath + Star of Azkaranth ammy for higher mp key runs so my Templar can freeze elites frequently (coupled with Garg/Bruiser stun ... it help me keep tough elite packs in place while i spam bears on them)

I hv xtra Sun Keeper if u want to borrow currently using 1k dps open socket + high intel/vit Sun Keeper for myself & a LoH Sun Keeper for my Templar



Just to get Henry salivating haha


This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 20 2012, 12:12 PM

u not a good fella ni... keep poison me...

so using templar is better tht enchantress???

my templar got 28% MF now... with sun keeper alr...

ok la... borrow me la...

i try mp0 see see... ^^

thanks bro...