WD got 2 life. This is essential back in 1.0.2/1.0.3 times where nobody are capable to finished inferno and WD can carry ppl that time.
I got carried by WD (remember brother DrLaboo?) back then when my monk was only 20k dps.

aiks.. it is common secret that WD is a failed design from blizzard

blizzard keep toying around with WD skills but still yet to solve the resource generating system for WD

b4 this we still got 300% VQ.... now.. sigh~

The mana generation rate is fine for me.
Some skills are not meant to spam.

But what's lacking?
Gear... it is the gear.
Wiz can get fast arcane recovery whenever they have crit.
WD can't get fast mana recovery through crit chance.
Mana generation through gears are just too slow... as slow as the bite of zombie dogs.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 18 2012, 04:23 PM

The real reason i enjoy playing my WD...



51xx intel from 27xx intel unbuffed
220k dps from 120k dps unbuffed

all this from GF/SH combo .. how much gold u need to upgrade gear to get that much dps increase? lolz
WD may not be the best character out there but its definately the cheapest to gear and still get high dps ... WD dmg is more skill dependant rather than gear dependant like other classes. Any new players with tight budget can roll a WD and farm efficiently

For example a DH with high dmg Manticore but no ias from other gears is gimped but a WD with a high dmg Skorn without any ias gears still do considerable high dps due to 2 of its main attack (RoT & Acid rain) has no travel time so its not gimped by low attack speed, Getting high CC to use Acid Rain on low lvl speed farming also is cheap for a WD .. i got my Giyua (6% CC + 6%CC to Acid Cloud) for only 3.5m ... tell me which single item can give me 12% CC for that amount of gold with respect to other classes gear setup?

p/s: However when it comes to doing ubers where there are no mobs around to gain advantage of GF/SH, WD is at a disadvantage ... hv to focus more on survival skill passives while dishing lower dps ... WD play a more support role during ubers.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Dec 18 2012, 04:28 PM

Talk about 2 life, not sure about Barb

But Monk also got what.... just that they permanent sacrifice a slot for OWE
DH Gloom enough said for second life, no cool down, and instant regent and smoke and acrobat no cooldown, enough for second chance
Wiz got Archon although dono what is that but I think got certain other passive that can boost defense alot? Not sure didnt really look into Wiz skill

Carried is 1 of the WD skill, I mean WD is design to carried, else even worse... and that what party are for... well when you see at WD point of view, we are sacrificing 2 skill slot for Dog and Gargan you know, so pros cons is there

Mana regen rate actually is not fine, until you are highly gear... and instead of gearing up POWERLY with Zuni set, you need to depend on VQ which again waste another slot...

Nothing WD can be boost of except the ToTD 20 pickup radius but again, this is not the BIS so pros and cons

The gear is the problem.

Let me give you another example, full IK set gives Barb perma fury.
Full Zuni set doesn't give WD perma mana.
See the difference?

The attack speed of our zombie dogs is as fast as mystic ally of monk.
How many monks still use mystic ally? Ask them to check out the attack speed (of mystic ally)... they will "ptui" at that.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 18 2012, 04:29 PM

^ oo....

I really dono about the IK set that give perm Fury...

Didnt really check cuz once i know the truth which already did... I will #$%^&* more lol...

And actually, out there I dont really think there are anyone give a S*** on WD hahaha

But frankly if you ask me what good about WD, I can only say the Bear and AR AOE largest and fastest...

But when you comparing with Monk, err Sweeping Wind? the 1 hit come out tornado 1.... you are like ooo ok....

Of course is the gear's problem when you compare the WD gears to the BROKEN IK set.

The problem with WD is no matter how you want to put it, is just not as efficient as other class. Tweak this tweak that, u still won't be as quick as a WW barb or a DH. That's the fact.

i'm sorry blizzard messed up this class.

Mystic Ally? PTUI!

Ya lol....

Btw what is the reason you all choose WD? I mean for those Main Char is WD like me...

I get the game late, er late October or somewhere there where my friend already Inferno level 60.

I asked them you all dont have what class, they said WD ok i played then they quit 1@#$%&

but WD is an interesting class.
the upgrades are also fairly cheap compared to other classes.

if not for my monk i would be playing WD already

This post has been edited by paranoid: Dec 18 2012, 04:36 PM

Nice DPS boost but the question is can you maintain it? If you can, then good for you.

Yeah it is indeed cheap cuz int gears are generally cheaper. But my two cents is if you're gonna depend on skills to get bonus damage then i think it won't be constant as there's always a chance you won't get the max. But again, i think i might be wrong here.

Well, DH needs AS but WD don't so can't compare here. Bro, u need to understand travel time or not a skill's casting animation is dependent on your AS. For example, how fast i lay traps depends on my AS. So, if u have more AS, u probably gonna cast AR faster.

Well, I mained a WD too. To me, its rather fun to play with despite their slow hitting pets. But I am still in love with my gargantuan being able to tank or at least buy some time for me to run away.

IMHO, WD is more to like a "back-up" player if played in a team. I dont know but usually my team mates died and I will be the one running around trying to revive them during UBER runs. Maybe they are nubs but yeah, 3-seconds SW will enable to you revive anyone without disturbance. Just need to time it well.

Anyway, they can dish out reasonable damage, depending on gear as I am standing around 100k +/- without pierce the veil. Mana wise, I dont usually get drained unless its Extra Health mob in high MP. Just SW and run, alt tab, view FB, tab back after 10 seconds

Put it this way, WD can kill fast in MP0-MP5 (or MP6 if you have high DPS).
You won't notice shortcoming of WD in low MP.
Well, all heroes can kill fast in low MP anyway.

However, when it comes to high MP, you need more damage to kill fast, you need more mana, you need more attack speed to kill fast & life recovery, you need better gear like "Manticore" - this is where I find WD is lacking.

For a start, I hope Blizz can increase the attack speed of our zombie pets.

its a passive where drinking health globe gets 10% int boost, up to 50% max and last for 10secs.

Why i rolled a WD? Bcos i was flat broke and my 1st toon (a DH) was stuck with no gold to do major upgrades.. i was able to finish Inferno solo without being carried with really tight budget gear using my WD .. then i start farming using my WD and up till now its my WD dat provides the most drops/legs & gold to equip my other toons. Early on with no great gears my WD was able to farm efficiently due to its skill/build (GF/SH to get dps .. pets, SW. SV to provide survivability)

I concur.
I always do the "revive" job when I play WD.

For me, WD runs fast.
It is the pets that attack at turtle-speed.

WD pets are still ... erm.. NO good. But they can tank pretty well especially gargantuan but I have to sac a slot for it. >< haha

o i thought i m the only WD reviving XD in uber

and for GF, there are dependency on Health Globe, normally when you have globe for boost meanst you have killed a decent amount of mob... so leftover some mob not really that beneficial, and if i m not mistaken only 5 seconds not 10...

As i pointed out WD is a good character to roll for a new player with tight budget. On low lvl mp farming the GF/SH combo dps boost can be maintained most of the time as u can kill fast n jaunt/stalker to next pack. However on higher mp games, WD cannot rely on that dps boost anymore as the health scaling of mobs by mp lvl make it impossible for a WD to get a high enough dps to do that. Even tho wd wont always get the max dps boost using GF/SH combo .. the minimum is at least 40% dps boost so its still high (without having to spend millions on gear upgrades)

The thing is bro, a WD doesnt need to cast AR faster as its a DoT type of attack where u dont need to spam and attack repeatedly using high ias.