Which question?

This 1 ar? You're a seller right? That's why I say people love and hate me for the same reason la OK seriously, may be nobody likes me also

By right the alternator send charge of 14.5 volts to the capacitor. When you off engine, the VS will send 14.5 volts to continue charge your batter until both VS and battery normalized at an agreeable value, then slowly discharge GUA. To find out more, better consult erictioh himself. These are my theory nia.

Like coolkwc say, if you use a something super duper machine gun radar jammer chaohigh frequency meter to detect, you'll see the electric flow actually vary from time to time. The normal test meter only can show the round up figure. Me and magician have very little knowledge about electronics, but according to him due to the vary of voltage being sending in to the voltage stabilizers, the small capacitor actually very hard to fully charge itself and to send similar charge to medium/high capacitors is another pain in the butt. However, static charge might actually reduce the variance. Theoretically my way of "dry run in" with a static charger works even better then letting the alternator alone to charge the VS up.

Anyways, these are all theory and butt dyno effects. It could be my poor battery is going to drain, and after the static charged the engine response became powderful can also caused by the battery itself instead of the VS.

Eating dinner(supper) now, will post video after shower

Wah so which one would you recommend then?

Cause I didn't want to buy the wooden armrest fearing that it would damage the flooring of the Saga. Even thinking that maybe I can DIY some pvc tapes at the armrest lower parts to soften the impact on the flooring some more.

so in the end, i still dun get what u mean. if i wanna get a fully working VS device, i needa full charge each and every biji of caps in my VS, yes? then to do so, i needa charge it using a 3rd party device aka socket charger?

im using the 1 with red stitches, but not with red stitches lar...mine just plain pu grey...i prefer this type coz it fills up the kekosongan at the handbrake region..otherwise, u can use the kambing skin leather armrest they are selling in mudah, rm60 that type 1..u cucuk and screw it on the cup holder behind ur handbrake compartment

GC cable not nessasary need large diameter. Why nowadays all is called "multi-point grouding cable'?

Those GC cable main purpose is not carry high cuurent only, it actually connect the particular point and make it "fully grouded', AKA 0v. Ori car normally just have 1 or 2 grouding points from battery terminal to car body at the engine bay. Means our car body is actually in ground potential (0v) from +ve point of view. But does it really @ ground for whole chassis if the grouding point is at, let say th front of engine bay? The answer is NO.

Car body is constructed from joining all the panel. So from panel to panel, all are connected by bolt, and panel is not a perfect conductor. So when we connect, let say audio amp, normally shop will connect negative terminal to car body at cabin. However car body @ cabin is not nessasary equal to 0v, due to panel to panel resistance and resstance of the pnel itself. So when current flow from battery +ve to amp and loop back to battery -ve through car body, voltage drop exist across the panel, let say 1 volt voltage drop across the panel, means now from the point of view of amp +ve terminal refer to amp -ve terminal, the effective voltage across the amp is just 11v, as 1v is drop by panel, result? amp is not running at optimum level, therefore performance will drop. Imagine if all the electrical devices in car such as spark plug, lamp etc also use this kind of connection, what will happen is the performance will reduce.

Therefore this is where the GC play its role. By connect all those GC from battery -ve terminal directly to multi points such as engine block, firewall etc, is to make that point directly grounded same as battery -ve to ensure the ground current can loop back to -ve as short as possible, so that voltage drop across ground loop is eliminate and ensure electrical devices to run @ max performance.

So even our stock ground cable is huge ass cable also useless if the grouding point is just at one particular point.

In simple word, the correct way to connect in car electrical device is connect -ve to battery -ve directly by wire rather than connect to car body, this is what assesories shop refuse to do due to extra cable cost, let say if ur amp is located @ boot.

maybe Mahihi got extra few feet he can sell leh.. lols..

so how come there is a singificant improment of performance after installed gc?
especially for AT
placebo perhaps?

This post has been edited by sg999: Nov 14 2012, 11:28 PM

so from ur point of view, thickness if cable is negligible? the conductive level too? say some use copper, some say platinum coated, so gold plated and whatsoever, some say china steel, or cap ayam metal...consider ok la? janji it is pointing towards the -ve terminal? no matter is 5 - 1 - -ve or 5 - -ve? janji ada connected is ok jor?

i think we missed out the important point which is purity of the copper
of course if we rich can try use 100% silver?

purity of material is about conductivity of the cables already.

im curious. GC isit all about getting a perfect screw point and tag it towards the -ve terminal, or there is some must-follow-or-you-will-fail theory behind?

You don't sell armrest ka Siuyi? Or anyone who sell that type? Wanna start asking around

GC point is not connect likely actually. Normally working point will be engine body, alternator body, firewall, gearbox (auto), if there is extra cable can go to left/right/front body. After install those cable, feel the engine very smooth and quiet. If connect to body, sound system will improve so so much. Never try never know, once you try my Edge installed car you will get all your answer you want from the car not me.

; ; I din say GC will not improve perfomance.

Just that i feel ur concept of GC is incorrect. especially you said stock grouding cable is thin.

The main point i would like to stress is "multi-point", not thickness. If just about thickness, wouldn't just connect 5 cables paralel to the ori cable will do?

Suddenly so many ON-TOPIC technical discussions (except the daiso WTF), tak biasa

if i sell everything, i should be opening a shop now...

http://www.mudah.my/SAGA+BLM+Genuine+Leath...der-7755526.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Saga+BLM+Carbon+Armrest-18766950.htm

but that hugo kajang, dun even think of going there.they just post for fun, tricking u to their shop and hey, no stock bro. then u walk around get other things..their marketing strategy. and dun bother calling them, as they will pick up ur call, say hello for 5 times, then hung it. so-called busy or no line..i saw them doing that lastime when i visited them. 5 workers sitting around the table, the phone rang, twice, then picked up hello 5 times, "tak boleh dengar", hung up.

My 1st charge, only the VS without the battery. As soon as I disconnect the VS from the charger, it quickly discharge by itself.

My 2nd charge, I attached the VS on my car battery, and charge both together with the static charger. After 2 hours, even I disconnect the static charger, the VS does not quickly discharge as it hold by the power of the car battery.

lols... i`ve been reading since the war is on till now...

can bulk

This post has been edited by asrul: Nov 14 2012, 11:50 PM

bro u macam tak paham my question leh..tak terjawab my question.i know GC have to connect to the correct part for better input and output. what im asking here is does the thickness, purity, material and direct connection or indirect connection to the -ve terminal a factor of reducing the GC's performance or not.

-.- hugo kajang ? nowadays dam lanci adi one... that day my friend went to buy something... then the ppl LCLY like less 1 business also nvm la... mana tau when he ask for CIVIC FD 2.0 mugen body kit then only they come answer seriously... then another friend ask for car amp then the ppl simply open price and just go back to the body kit one... and their advertise got trick one... if got say supply, that item u need get 20units and above only can get that price... i sudah kena...

so 1st case is, battery makan ur VS power. 2nd case is VS and battery both equilibrium state. then?