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 The Watch Thread v5, no watch is 2 cheap or 2 pricey 2 talk

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post Nov 9 2012, 11:02 AM

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Local retail shop + local online sellers, of which gives a good selection of straps? Be it mesh, leather, rubber, NATO/Zulu?

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Nov 9 2012, 11:02 AM)
Local retail shop + local online sellers, of which gives a good selection of straps? Be it mesh, leather, rubber, NATO/Zulu?

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Local one try Red Army Watches.
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/product.asp
http://www.waccex.de/catalog/
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post Nov 9 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Nov 9 2012, 10:45 AM)
Aiyo so brutal.
Where is the crack?
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Haha no major crack yet la, just making that story up for future portrayal purposes tongue.gif
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am currently digging the g-shock for my daily wear and sports.. hmm.. any recomendations for any g-shocks model??
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post Nov 9 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 8 2012, 07:58 PM)
Yeah... me too.


Added on November 8, 2012, 8:06 pm

Rollie is a mugging magnet.

Mako, Monster, Mudman or the G-Series for everyday work.

Pontos, MasterPiece, Tagente or slightly up the ante: Reverso or Master Compressor for more refined occasion.

Calatrava, Nautilus, Altiplano or Saxony as heirloom. Remember the cheesy tagline "You don't own a XXXXX, you look after it for the next generation".

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It's only a mugging magnet when wear those full gold, diamond blinged out models.
Other than that, stainless steel datejusts, air kings, precision models are hardly noticeable at all.
And with the amount of fakes out there, the mugger won't even know if the guy wearing the watch is a genuine or a fake one.
Better stick with paper currency if they wanna mug...
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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Nov 9 2012, 12:13 PM)
It's only a mugging magnet when wear those full gold, diamond blinged out models.
Other than that, stainless steel datejusts, air kings, precision models are hardly noticeable at all.
And with the amount of fakes out there, the mugger won't even know if the guy wearing the watch is a genuine or a fake one.
Better stick with paper currency if they wanna mug...
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fake or not, they dont care.
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Man-ple...lex-3775768.php
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/danie...er-mike-1426019

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 9 2012, 12:19 PM)
Those arent exactly mugging is it?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 9 2012, 12:26 PM)
Those arent exactly mugging is it?
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Mugging - An assault upon a person especially with the intent to rob.
whether it ends up in murder or not, well its still a robbery.


Added on November 9, 2012, 12:39 pmanyway, i checked out the victorinox night vision iii couple days ago...its basically the only victorinox that i like anyway cos of the built-in LED tongue.gif
just a pity the bracelet is so damn shiny...the leather one is nicer but white face only.
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One is a drug dealer and the other a scammer... Anyway thats not the point. My opinion is that if different watches for diff situations... No plastic watches when in a suited up meeting and no real or fake expensive looking watches outside alone midnight in shady areas of town.


Added on November 9, 2012, 1:17 pm
QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 9 2012, 12:27 PM)

Added on November 9, 2012, 12:39 pmanyway, i checked out the victorinox night vision iii couple days ago...its basically the only victorinox that i like anyway cos of the built-in LED tongue.gif
just a pity the bracelet is so damn shiny...the leather one is nicer but white face only.
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Checked out Victorinox's lineup yesterday in their boutique here in Taipei. Kinda pricey for what you're getting if you ask me.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 9 2012, 12:44 PM)
One is a drug dealer and the other a scammer... Anyway thats not the point. My opinion is that if different watches for diff situations... No plastic watches when in a suited up meeting and no real or fake expensive looking watches outside alone midnight in shady areas of town.


Added on November 9, 2012, 1:17 pm

Checked out Victorinox's lineup yesterday in their boutique here in Taipei. Kinda pricey for what you're getting if you ask me.
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the leather strap one is about rm1.5k after discount...imo not that bad.
definitely cheaper than the MTM ones, which are at least rm3k and their LED isnt as strong as the victorinox...even tho the MTM's have up to 3 or more LEDs built-in.

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post Nov 9 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Nov 9 2012, 09:27 AM)
I think typically/relatively, watches are not expensive to make. Just that the higher-end Swiss brands command a ridiculous amount of profit margin.
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Ill attempt to break down some popular category of watches...

One can simply take a valjoux 7750 movement and stick it inside 50,000 mass produced cases...the end result would be a time piece with a reliable work horse beating inside....
Good quality? Sure.
Affordable? In most cases.
Reliable? You bet.
Maintenance? Never a problem.
Desirable? That varies from person to person.
Exclusive? Certainly not.

For luxury brands who sometimes roll out 500-1500 (or sometimes 25-50 even) of a certain piece, the logistics will simply be much higher...(typically AP(29,000 watches 2010), Patek(45,000 watches 2010), Vacheron(18,000 pieces 2010), Piaget (20,000 pieces 2010), A.L & Sohne (5,500 watches in 2010)... When you buy these puppies you can almost be certain that the next guy across of you on the train wont be spotting one of these....It would be very interested to see a price breakdown of their Grande Complication, Perpetual Calender, Minute Repeater or whatever...
Good quality? Impeccable.
Affordable? Ridiculously out of range for the average Joe.
Reliable? In most cases, probably less so than that Valjoux...
Maintenance? Stupid.
Desirable? The pinnacle among the watch aficionados.
Exclusive? Waiting lists for almost any of the signature models. Your watch will higher pangkat than James Bond and the dudes in the Expendables even.


Then you get the guys like Rolex (800,000 pieces in 2010),Omega (700,000 pieces in 2010), Tag (600,000 pieces in 2010). Not high-end, not haute horolgy, but a marketing machine so well oiled to create a genre of "necessary luxury". The large numbers means that the time pieces are machine made...everyone wants one... don't believe me, just check out the number of pax in their boutiques vs that of say brands mentioned previously...Love or hate a Rolex for example one fact remains. People CARE about Rolex(slightly less so Omega and Tag admittedly) and its demand for new and pre-owned are testiment to that. It will not be uncommon to see a guy who earns RM50,000 a month or a guy who earns RM3,000 a month wearing an original time piece from any of these three brands.
Good quality? Sure.
Affordable? Expensive.
Reliable? In most cases yes.
Maintenance? Expensive.
Desirable? The most of all. We were all brainwashed from young and from the posters to believe getting one of these is the sure symbol to show that "we made it"
Exclusive? Certainly not.

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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Nov 9 2012, 03:11 PM)
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You left out the religion of Panerai. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 9 2012, 03:21 PM)
You left out the religion of Panerai.  whistling.gif
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I don't dare talk about Panerai!!!

that's a different category altogether!
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post Nov 9 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(romeolee @ Nov 9 2012, 11:31 AM)
am currently digging the g-shock for my daily wear and sports.. hmm.. any recomendations for any g-shocks model??
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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Nov 9 2012, 03:11 PM)
Ill attempt to break down some popular category of watches...

One can simply take a valjoux 7750 movement and stick it inside 50,000 mass produced cases...the end result would be a time piece with a reliable work horse beating inside....
Good quality? Sure.
Affordable? In most cases.
Reliable? You bet.
Maintenance? Never a problem.
Desirable? That varies from person to person.
Exclusive? Certainly not.

For luxury brands who sometimes roll out 500-1500 (or sometimes 25-50 even) of a certain piece, the logistics will simply be much higher...(typically AP(29,000 watches 2010), Patek(45,000 watches 2010), Vacheron(18,000 pieces 2010), Piaget (20,000 pieces 2010), A.L & Sohne (5,500 watches in 2010)... When you buy these puppies you can almost be certain that the next guy across of you on the train wont be spotting one of these....It would be very interested to see a price breakdown of their Grande Complication, Perpetual Calender, Minute Repeater or whatever...
Good quality? Impeccable.
Affordable? Ridiculously out of range for the average Joe.
Reliable? In most cases, probably less so than that Valjoux...
Maintenance? Stupid.
Desirable? The pinnacle among the watch aficionados.
Exclusive? Waiting lists for almost any of the signature models. Your watch will higher pangkat than James Bond and the dudes in the Expendables even.
Then you get the guys like Rolex (800,000 pieces in 2010),Omega (700,000 pieces in 2010), Tag (600,000 pieces in 2010). Not high-end, not haute horolgy, but a marketing machine so well oiled to create a genre of "necessary luxury". The large numbers means that the time pieces are machine made...everyone wants one... don't believe me, just check out the number of pax in their boutiques vs that of say brands mentioned previously...Love or hate a Rolex for example one fact remains. People CARE about Rolex(slightly less so Omega and Tag admittedly) and its demand for new and pre-owned are testiment to that. It will not be uncommon to see a guy who earns RM50,000 a month or a guy who earns RM3,000 a month wearing an original time piece from any of these three brands.
Good quality? Sure.
Affordable? Expensive.
Reliable? In most cases yes.
Maintenance? Expensive.
Desirable? The most of all. We were all brainwashed from young and from the posters to believe getting one of these is the sure symbol to show that "we made it"
Exclusive? Certainly not.
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Some boutique manufacturers ship even less than AP, VC, Patek etc. Doesn't mean they matter. Rolex is indeed the gold standard.

QUOTE(yonggoh @ Nov 9 2012, 03:25 PM)
I don't dare talk about Panerai!!!

that's a different category altogether!
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Watch Snob described Panerai pretty well. LOL.
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Hi all. First time posting here.

Can anyone point me towards local shops in KL/PJ that have a good selection of deployant straps? Am looking for a nice one for a Ball Engineer II Aviator (22mm).

Thanks!
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what is their price range?

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QUOTE(romeolee @ Nov 9 2012, 06:31 PM)
@jason

what is their price range?
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What is what's price range?
If you're talking about Nomos its between $1700~2500, depending on manual wind or automatic.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ Nov 9 2012, 06:01 PM)
Hi all. First time posting here.

Can anyone point me towards local shops in KL/PJ that have a good selection of deployant straps? Am looking for a nice one for a Ball Engineer II Aviator (22mm).

Thanks!
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deployant clasp u mean? for leather straps?
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Yonggoh,

What is cheapest Swiss made Valjoux-7750 COSC grade available in the market? I think Tissot, yes?

Romeolee,

Any Master of G is good. Personally I am targeting Gulfman next.

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AFAIK, Tissot does not sell any COSC chronographs.

A Mido All Dial V7750 COSC can be bought for around RM5.5K.

Although more expensive, you might want to consider a Longines Caliber L688.2 chrono. (ETA A08.231 exclusive to Longines) It's the cheapest Swiss column wheel chronograph.

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