Hi, I'm new here =P

Do anyone here know where to find the ranking of Universities in Japan?

I searched for so long.. (T_T) no progress..

care to tell why you wanna know?

you can search for JASSO organization for more study details in Japan.

Interested in knowing it.

For everyone's knowledge

Thanks for the info

This post has been edited by uchan: Nov 9 2006, 10:00 AM

Judging from your picture, you might be more interested with Japanese girls rather than Japanese studies..

oh universities wont adopt LAN standard anytime soon. as they try to fulfill higher standard, like US standard now. well that OBE stuff. Outcome Based Learning. dunno know much bout it, but u can alwiz google. local universities want to compete globally, that's y.

Learning japanese is definitely fun also...haha

If Petronas(UTP) was considered as one of the good university in our country, anyone can prove it by showing the University world ranking? I try to find it, but couldn't find the university in the list .. ...


P/s: Just a question .. No need to be angry ..

even got LAN also no use because not regonize by JPA if wan to go for goverment the cert have to at least got JPA (jabatan perkhidmatan Awam) satified......

if it's recognized by LAN, it will be recognized by JPA. LAN is msia's standard for any certificates, and if LAN recognizes a particular certificate, it would mean that JPA will comply as well.

and JPA DOES NOT accreditate schools. they just sponsor students to accredited schools. but since LAN only accreditates local schools, JPA has a list of overseas schools that is based on each country's rating for each school.

if a diploma course can get the loan of PTPTN from gov, does it mean the diploma course is accredited by gov?

anyone know powertek loan/scholar here ? mind to share ur opinion.. i got diploam n now currently in degree.. hate ptptn wanna change n use my diploma application..

anyone ?

any1 noe any college/uni that offer loans to p/t working adults for doin ACCA? just helping my fren to ask.

how to check a degree whether is accepted by local ?

of course UTP wasn't in world ranking because the university is still new...
they just started a few years ago...
UTP has only a few courses such as engineerings and IT...
& the students still in small numbers...
but the qualification is tougher than the other local universities...
they have interviews individually & by groups...
they have IQ test...
& they also have good facilities in coming...
if they operate for more than 20years i think they will be in top 100 world universities...
i said base on interview experience...
i got it but didn't get the Petronas scholarship, so i turn it down...
for those who received their scholar better go...
much more money than other scholar...
although the fees slightly expensive than other universities...
(not compared to private college)

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Added on August 22, 2007, 1:12 pmwhat do u mean by this?
do u want to pursue study in degree or after grad?

This post has been edited by beelzebulletz: Aug 22 2007, 01:12 PM

Check with JPA or individual professional body in your related field.

Let's stop talking nonsense. Just because a university isn't in any international ranking list, it does never mean the university is not good. As a good example, UiTM ranks nowhere but its graduate employment rate is the highest amongst our public universities, even surpassing that of those four THES-ranked, so-called Research Universities (RU). 85-90% of UiTM graduates are either employed or admitted for further studies within three months after graduation (i.e. upon getting their final results and confirmed as graduated).

the international ranking is primarily based on research works and does not reflect the marketability of the graduates.

how well you sell yourself before your prospective employer is much (i mean MUCH) more important than which university you graduated from. employers are looking for graduates, not universities, to hire.

one more, i believe there's no such "bad university". there are only bad-performing students (can talk about university ranking but neglect his/her own ranking) who can't manage to sell themselves well. (jangan marah nanti kena jual... )

it doesn't matter how well your university ranks. it is your rank amongst the huge crowd of graduates that count.

and why should anyone be angry of your question?

i'm talking based on my point of view as a postgraduate student with working experience.


This post has been edited by average.joe: Sep 16 2007, 11:39 PM

I talk based on my right to ask for any question that I want to ask, I talk with a good manner, and I didn't think that I break any heart by asking this question or are you denying my right? and not because you are the only forummer here that can talk *censored* and then *censored* and you are not the only one that can reply here, if you think you againts it, then you should give your fact and reply with a good manner .. if you think that you are so good by being a postgrad student with the working experience, then talk like a professional .. and please don't give a comment like a low level qualification person .. pity of you .. no, I mean it, hope that you learn how to give a good comment ... even a friend of mine that already have a PhD can reply with a good answer and not always talk .. "Nonsense" .. o0o0o .. "You are so bad, nonsense" .. really, they didn't learned it in university ..


P/s: And about the Uitm .. you should google more .. I don't want to talk much and give my view, the link, the evidence or any forummer comment about the world class self-claim...

And Thank You


Thanks, you understand what I'm asking .. and it's a good answer. Now, I can understand it a little bit ..

I did never mean to irritate you or anyone else, and I just wanted to clear out the myth. Look into yourself first before you ever equate me (or anyone else) to "a low-qulification" person.

Perhaps my reply was a bit too strongly-worded (I'm really sorry for that) for you to accept, but at least I brought up my points clear.

If you think the way I write was improfessional, then your previous questioning of UTP's standing was also not professional enough either (is it ever fair to question the international standing of a relatively new university?). Thus, is it wrong for me to answer according to your level? Don't have to pity me, pity yourself instead.

It's even more irritating when people talk on things they did never really know. Before we ever talk about those so-called ranking, do we ever aware of the myriad methodologies taken by those ranking-makers?

It's pretty embarrassing to find out why did to of our universities got ranked so high by THES in their 2004 ranking. Those "smart" (yes, very smart) THES researchers had mistakenly classified ethnic Chinese and Indian students as"international students" when they are truly Malaysians by nationality, thus erratically booming the marks under the international student proportion category.

If even those ranking-makers can do silly mistakes like this, could we ever rely on the rankings they have made?

No need to remind me to google more. I know the facts about UiTM because I googled more. I could answer you more and more and this would even be more annoying to some, but i guess you could find the answer on your own by doing exactly what you told me to do, yourself.

but as a good argument about UiTM, let's read this http://www.bernama.com/selangor_maju/newsb...=209270&lang=my

...especially the last two paragraphs:

Beliau (UiTM VC Prof. ato. Dr. Ibrahim Abu Shah) menyangkal statistik yang dikeluarkan oleh Kementerian Sumber Manusia bahawa graduan UiTM merupakan jumlah yang tertinggi menganggur iaitu seramai 3,000 orang berbanding universiti lain.

Ibrahim berkata jumlah itu tidak menepati prinsip asas statistik kerana jumlah 3,000 itu sepatutnya dibandingkan dengan 30,000 graduan yang dikeluarkan oleh UiTM dan bukan dibandingkan dengan keseluruhan jumlah graduan menganggur yang kerana ada antara mereka datangnya dari universiti yang mempunyai jumlah pelajar yang kecil.

look, out of 30,000 UiTM graduates in a year, only 3,000 can't land a job. this is where i get the percentage i mentioned before. other universities each produce an average of 5,000 graduates per year, yet 1,000+ of them failed to land a job or to further their study.

This post has been edited by average.joe: Sep 17 2007, 01:18 AM

actually, in the education essentials sub-forum, providing links are not only welcomed, it's the professional way to put an argument across. i cant imagine anyone who would find THAT annoying. so why not put money where ur mouth is, and provide proof via link.

the burden of proof lies on those who claims it first, not those who dispute it.

Bla bla bla .... you should know how to use Google .. there should be many link to find to support your fact or perhaps your evidence? But you only show one that of course the paper couldn't mentioned about the lackness behind Uitm .. And no, statistic can be change by everyone especially the administration, 3000 only? Do everyone know the truth story behind that? Please ask the graduate from Uitm yourself (I didn't mean you, you are too professional right?), and you should know that there are many jobless Uitm graduate than the number that have been provided by the VC. If you have been working there especially in the space that many of Uitm student will see you and be friends with some of them, then there are many story that you can grab, yes the truth story .. Oh no no. you are too professional, you got Master .. perhaps my story is wrong .. I'm too low to speak with you ..

I have one blog that I love most to read .. even it's not an official website but it's good to read .. Yes, again I mean it .. if you are so good, please reply in the blog, and don't forget to put your nick there too .. it's a field for you .. yes, exactly for you to debate about your self claim world class university since I didn't have anything againts them, I've already got my answer from beelzebulletz, thanks to him, perhaps not a professional answer but it still easy to understand rather than too professional attitude one....

The blog :

Oh my oh my ...


P/s: For the UiTm student, I'm not againts all of you .. but just want to show one link that good to read, and this is my last post mentioned about your university and my reply anything related about your university ... next time, I'll not do it again since in the early I didn't have any intention to talk about your university, sorry forummer, friends, my relatives that studying and lecturing there too, and anyone related it. sorry again ..

This post has been edited by Irzani: Sep 17 2007, 01:53 AM