Well lately, I've seen a lot of new courses appearing in MMU. My batch, they introduced Artificial Intelligence course, after my batch Security Technology. This coming June intake, they will introduce Bio-related IT course. A new faculty is coming soon too. Well, if a student who took this new courses, one of the worries are LAN, JPA and MOHE. Sometimes student thought that this courses that are offered are already LAN approved not knowing it when they applied for it .Well, MOHE certainly will approved the course, but what will happen to the first batch of student that has not been approved by LAN? As I know JPA won't give out the scholarship for the LAN not approved programmes. And how about PTPTN? In the initial state,my friend who took Artificial Intelligence, had a shock when they heard that PTPTN has not approved the loan for his programmes. Luckily somehow after discusion between administrator and PTPTN, they allowed it. How about this new courses? Will PTPTN abandoned them because of not LAN accreditated?

This is what I quote from MMU website on LAN accredation. Just wondering,what will happen to the degree of the student from the first batch because they are the white mouse. How if LAN not approved it? What consequences this student face? Another thing is how to differentiate a good University or Colleges? University /Colleges that provided more programmes are deemed good? MMU alone have 111 programmes itself from diploma to PhD but true . Can anyone share your opinion about this question?

This Questiion can be applied anywhere not only in MMU. Just share what you know.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Feb 24 2006, 09:09 PM

Since MMU is a local university, i don't see a problem why LAN or the education ministry want to reject it

But how about the overseas Uni or colleges? What are the quality deemed to be fit for their assesment? Different in what terms? Well, sometimes you can't say because it is a local university, they won't reject it. There is still probabilty for them to reject too.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Feb 24 2006, 09:06 PM

All courses offered at all private colleges are approved by LAN. The issue is about accreditation, not approval.

The probability is low. My 2 cents

Do you know oversea university like Southern Pacific University from US also get accrediation from LAN ? Did you aware or know this U ?

no inti pls .

yeap. That is what I mean
So, is it counted as their degree are accreditated although they are still doing the assessment and coming with the result? Since FYP is usually offered in final 2 sem for us in MMU. If the accreditation is given after they receive their scroll, meaning their degree is accreditation approved or the next batch after them?

good for them.....
I wouldn't know. You shouldn't worry too much if you intend to have nothing to do with the government after your studies.

For local institutions, in order to get LAN accrediation, the institution itself has to have experience lecturers, well-balanced IT and library facilities and other aspects need to be considered!

If let say have no other choice , have to work with government, they won't be hired?

Okay, let say this college/Uni programmes is LAN accreditated. Somehow when the student study half way, LAN take back their accreditation(don't know if this possibe to happen or not ), then counted as degree without LAN accreditation?

It is possible.

u can say so

here's what i can share:

in order for a college to get accreditation, they have to start the course first with the first batch of students. part of the accreditation process is that the students' works are reviewed and scrutinized by experts from the related field. for example, new artificial intelligence courses in college ABC will be assessed by malaysian experts in artificial intelligence, probably some people from other established universities or industry. if the course is relatively new in malaysia, LAN will appoint external experts to assess.

usually, in establishing a new course, the college will need qualified lecturers and most importantly, the structure of the course. facilities could come second. this structures are easily adapted using established overseas courses.

in order to obtain certification (not accreditation) from LAN, they will have to prove that their course complies to the minimum international standards. once it has been confirmed, they can start the course.

usually, the first 3-4 batches are will not get an accredited degree, but their degree is certified to comply with minimum standards, which means, still fit to practice, although not necessarily 100% accepted by everyone.

for example, only 4 out of 16 schools of architecture in malaysia are accredited to award full architectural degrees. so what about the other 12 (including LUCT, taylor's, UPM, UIA, UKM, etc)? the graduates are qualified enough to work, but they will need to seek individual accreditation themselves from the respective bodies.

Last week, LAN and IEM came to assess a degree course in MMU Melaka Campus. The assessed course is BEng(Hons) Electronics majoring in Robotics and Automation.

Assessment can be only be performed if the new course got final year students who are working for their final year project as well.

Ohana Means Family

This post has been edited by David83: Feb 27 2006, 02:58 AM

accreditation = good college?

Not exactly true that expression ...

Ohana Means Family

not necessarily.

accreditation means it complies to the standards that have been set by the industry and other academics. this is something that is agreed upon prior to the accreditation, and they publish the criterias of accreditation so that everyone could refer to it.

accreditation criteria has a much higher standards than criterias of setting up a course. setting up a course have a minimum requirements that doesnt really comply to the industry's standards.

accreditation simply means that ur future employer wont have to double check ur background in order to confirm u r qualified. well, they could just put u into a probation period for 3-6months, but not many are willing to pay u just to test u.

It seems not that fair to the 1st batch to the student who take the degree ain't ? Hmm, so much trouble for taking a non-accreditated programmes really
After all, they are the benchmark for the coming batch. One get and one doesn't get.
After all, theytook the risk to choose the new course which is relatively new to the country and which might be usefull in future.

Now I see what you meant.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Feb 28 2006, 10:58 AM

I would like to ask that if a college's courses that have approval by LAN and also have minimum Standard Courses for the approved courses. but does not
achieved Accreditation by LAN.

Will the course suddenly be terminated because of not achieving Accreditation by LAN?