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azarimy
post Mar 15 2006, 09:20 PM

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the accreditation process usually takes between 2 to 4 years for a first time accreditation. that's AFTER the 1st graduates. it's not about bureaucracy, but more on waiting for the next batch to graduate and be assessed, and the batch after that and so on until they're satisfied.

once a full accreditation process is awarded, it will be valid for 5 years (commonly). reaccreditation process is shorter. usually takes between 6 months to a year.
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Btw, do employers in the private sector EVER ask whether or not your course is LAN accredited? :/
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post Mar 15 2006, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(misao @ Mar 15 2006, 11:50 PM)
Btw, do employers in the private sector EVER ask whether or not your course is LAN accredited? :/
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It depends and mostly not.
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QUOTE(misao @ Mar 15 2006, 11:50 PM)
Btw, do employers in the private sector EVER ask whether or not your course is LAN accredited? :/
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hardly. but it would be easier for them to choose potential employees when they know that u have an accredited degree, compared to those doesnt. but in architecture firms, regardless whether u come from accredited course or not, if u're a crappy worker, u'll get the boot by the end of the week. most employers seek the individual, not the degree. but certain posts require certain qualifications. u cant become a professional architect (which carries the title AR. infront of their names) if u dont have an accredited architectural degree. this applies to other commonwealth countries as well.

so i assume other professional courses have this regulation as well.
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I am planning to do my Foundation of Arts in Help, and based on the LAN's site, this Foundation course is not in its 'Accredited course' list.

What does it mean? HELP's A-Levels' are Accredited and so are some of their degrees, so what does it mean if this Foundation course in HELP isn't Accredited?

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it doesnt mean a thing actually.

foundation is a field specific course, and in malaysia unfortunately, foundation is a field-specific, course-specific and school-specific course. which means that if u're taking foundation of arts in HELP, u can only continue studying in degree of arts in HELP.

foundation courses were meant to be open, meaning if u take foundation of arts in HELP, u should be able to continue for ur degree in any other universities offering degree in arts. however, we have yet to come to that point yet, coz foundation courses arent centralized yet. well, atleast not in malaysia.

this brings us back to ur question. what does it mean?

it means that, if it's not accredited, it doesnt really matter. why? because foundation is not ur final certificate/qualification. working outside, people just look at ur last qualification (and if they even bother, check on the accreditation of ur last qualification).

what u really need to worry about is ur last qualification. if u're planning to stop at degree in arts, then make sure ur degree in arts is accredited. since u're planning to take foundation in help, make sure help's degree in arts (or whatever relevant) is accredited.
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To all MMU students ,

- I got just my Diploma in Computer Science(collaboration with Universiti Sains Malaysia) in Stamford Collage . i been thinking doing my Degree in MMU for quite awhlie . Do they take examtion for some particular subject , which is related to the my subject which i hav taken at stamford. I khow i need bring along my diploma course outline .
( More info About my Diploma http://www.stamford.edu.my/Courses/details...egoryid=2&id=5)

- What is the requirements to PTPN loan at MMU ? Because , as far as i khow , each Uni or Collage has their own requirements in order to get the PTPN loan....( correct me if i'm wrong... )

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QUOTE(Haza_izzz @ Apr 14 2006, 10:13 AM)
To all MMU students ,

- I got just my Diploma in Computer Science(collaboration with Universiti Sains Malaysia) in Stamford Collage . i been thinking doing my Degree in MMU for quite awhlie . Do they take examtion for some particular subject , which is related to the my subject which i hav taken at stamford. I khow i need bring along my diploma course outline .
( More info About my Diploma http://www.stamford.edu.my/Courses/details...egoryid=2&id=5)

- What is the requirements to PTPN loan at MMU ? Because , as far as i khow , each Uni or Collage has their own requirements in order to get the PTPN loan....( correct me if i'm wrong... )
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I can't view your course subject. Probably kind enough to post it here?
About subject exemption, it depends. If MMU think it is not relevant, you need to take the particular subject offered by MMU.

PTPTN loan is eligible to all, and it is not under MMU power to decide who gets it or not. wink.gif

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hi, i also need your guys help....currently i m doing DIp in E&E at INTI subang jaya and will be finishing in 1 more sem...One of my options was to MMU to do my degree locally....I would like to ask ppl out there, does MMU offere BEng in E&e????... and does it lan - IEM accredited? does it recognize? heard that MMU only have telecomunications...So can anyone out there mind tellin me
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QUOTE(ldhong @ Apr 18 2006, 03:19 AM)
hi, i also need your guys help....currently i m doing DIp in E&E at INTI subang jaya and will be finishing in 1 more sem...One of my options was to MMU to do my degree locally....I would like to ask ppl out there, does MMU offere BEng in E&e????... and does it lan - IEM accredited? does it recognize? heard that MMU only have telecomunications...So can anyone out there mind tellin me
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Please refer to this link MMU LAN accreditated courses

Courses that MMU offers


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QUOTE(feynman @ Feb 24 2006, 09:05 PM)
All courses offered at all private colleges are approved by LAN. The issue is about accreditation, not approval.
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Good day,
I am from SEGI college ( prime + systematic colloge). They have some course dont have any LAN approval. I can't get loan from Bank Rakyat because no LAN approval for my course in degree of Computing.

So, please check the college and the course LAN status before sign up for the course. Do it before it is too late.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Feb 25 2006, 11:46 PM)
It is possible.
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my degree is not recognise by JPA.. so i can't use my degree to apply gov job.. i use my diploma mad.gif so much salary differetnt between diploma n degree holder vmad.gif

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u can't use yr degree to apply for gov job but can u go for private sector???
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QUOTE(ldhong @ Apr 18 2006, 06:27 PM)
u can't use yr degree to apply for gov job but can u go for private sector???
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yes.. i can..private sector doesn't care wheter your degree is recognise or not.. waht they want is as long as u have teh knowledge to work...
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Private sector prefers skills over academics but some companies prefer higher CGPA. The degree recognition and accreditation did not affect much.
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that's almost right..i still remember when i was in one interview...becos the MD was so busy (konon..) he ask all of us to presnt ourself in the meeting room.. one of this hot looking chicks was really sell her self... graduated in UK..best student someone..was offered by the UK gov to work there but she refused and return home to contribute to the country la...bla..bla...bla.. The MD was so interested in her...
when my time up, i only say a few words about me in just 5 mins..and then he said NEXT.............

later, only me that got the job...huahaha


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post May 1 2006, 12:34 PM

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hei, i have a question. What if i apply for ptptn loan with my engineering diploma is it possible because i am actually an art stream students so if i use my SPM to apply high possibilities they might not approve...I heard that art stream students can't do engineering nevertheless will they approve the loan.
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post May 1 2006, 08:35 PM

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lets get something clear:

do u already possess an engineering diploma, or applying FOR an engineering diploma?

a. if u already have an engineering diploma:

they wont so much look into ur SPM other than to justify the grades and make sure u qualify for the minimum requirements. in any applications, they will always look for the latest qualifications.

b. if u r applying for an engineering diploma:

well, u can, but it'll be harder. priority will always be given to students with science background, but it doesnt mean they will throw ur application out the window.


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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 1 2006, 09:35 PM)
lets get something clear:

do u already possess an engineering diploma, or applying FOR an engineering diploma?

a. if u already have an engineering diploma:

they wont so much look into ur SPM other than to justify the grades and make sure u qualify for the minimum requirements. in any applications, they will always look for the latest qualifications.

b. if u r applying for an engineering diploma:

well, u can, but it'll be harder. priority will always be given to students with science background, but it doesnt mean they will throw ur application out the window.
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i am in the final sem of my engineering diploma...my concern is to apply ptptn for my degree....next, if the degree course i enrol only achieve the minimum requirement of standard accreditation by LAN will the loan approved??? The course is not accredited by BEM too...


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PTPTN does not give out loans to unaccredited courses. there's no other way around it, atleast not that i know of.

what do u mean by achieving minimum standards of LAN? it's either the course is accredited, or not. that's what matters to PTPTN. if it is accredited, regardless of minimum or outstanding, PTPTN WILL offer the loan to prospective students.

do check on the course accreditation at LAN's website. or just put the name of the course and also the university u're applying here, someone might be able to give a different advice.

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