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Irzani
post May 16 2007, 04:41 AM

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If Petronas(UTP) was considered as one of the good university in our country, anyone can prove it by showing the University world ranking? I try to find it, but couldn't find the university in the list .. sweat.gif ...


P/s: Just a question .. No need to be angry .. icon_idea.gif
Irzani
post Sep 16 2007, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(average.joe @ Sep 16 2007, 01:01 AM)
Let's stop talking nonsense.  Just because a university isn't in any international ranking list, it does never mean the university is not good.  As a good example, UiTM ranks nowhere but its graduate employment rate is the highest amongst our public universities, even surpassing that of those four THES-ranked, so-called Research Universities (RU).  85-90% of UiTM graduates are either employed or admitted for further studies within three months after graduation (i.e. upon getting their final results and confirmed as graduated).

the international ranking is primarily based on research works and does not reflect the marketability of the graduates.

how well you sell yourself before your prospective employer is much (i mean MUCH) more important than which university you graduated from.  employers are looking for graduates, not universities, to hire. 

one more, i believe there's no such "bad university".  there are only bad-performing students (can talk about university ranking but neglect his/her own ranking) who can't manage to sell themselves well. (jangan marah nanti kena jual...  whistling.gif )

it doesn't matter how well your university ranks.  it is your rank amongst the huge crowd of graduates that count.

and why should anyone be angry of your question?

i'm talking based on my point of view as a postgraduate student with working experience.

go and finish your work and stop talking nonsense.
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I talk based on my right to ask for any question that I want to ask, I talk with a good manner, and I didn't think that I break any heart by asking this question or are you denying my right? and not because you are the only forummer here that can talk *censored* and then *censored* and you are not the only one that can reply here, if you think you againts it, then you should give your fact and reply with a good manner .. if you think that you are so good by being a postgrad student with the working experience, then talk like a professional .. and please don't give a comment like a low level qualification person .. pity of you .. no, I mean it, hope that you learn how to give a good comment ... even a friend of mine that already have a PhD can reply with a good answer and not always talk .. "Nonsense" .. o0o0o .. "You are so bad, nonsense" .. really, they didn't learned it in university .. thumbup.gif


P/s: And about the Uitm .. you should google more .. I don't want to talk much and give my view, the link, the evidence or any forummer comment about the world class self-claim... rclxm9.gif

And Thank You drool.gif


QUOTE(beelzebulletz @ Aug 22 2007, 01:07 PM)
of course UTP wasn't in world ranking because the university is still new...
they just started a few years ago...
UTP has only a few courses such as engineerings and IT...
& the students still in small numbers...
but the qualification is tougher than the other local universities...
they have interviews individually & by groups...
they have IQ test...
& they also have good facilities in coming...
if they operate for more than 20years i think they will be in top 100 world universities...
i said base on interview experience...
i got it but didn't get the Petronas scholarship, so i turn it down...
for those who received their scholar better go...
much more money than other scholar...
although the fees slightly expensive than other universities...
(not compared to private college)
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Thanks, you understand what I'm asking .. and it's a good answer. Now, I can understand it a little bit .. thumbup.gif


Irzani
post Sep 17 2007, 01:40 AM

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Bla bla bla .... you should know how to use Google .. there should be many link to find to support your fact or perhaps your evidence? But you only show one that of course the paper couldn't mentioned about the lackness behind Uitm .. And no, statistic can be change by everyone especially the administration, 3000 only? Do everyone know the truth story behind that? Please ask the graduate from Uitm yourself (I didn't mean you, you are too professional right?), and you should know that there are many jobless Uitm graduate than the number that have been provided by the VC. If you have been working there especially in the space that many of Uitm student will see you and be friends with some of them, then there are many story that you can grab, yes the truth story .. Oh no no. you are too professional, you got Master .. perhaps my story is wrong .. I'm too low to speak with you ..

I have one blog that I love most to read .. even it's not an official website but it's good to read .. Yes, again I mean it .. if you are so good, please reply in the blog, and don't forget to put your nick there too .. it's a field for you .. yes, exactly for you to debate about your self claim world class university since I didn't have anything againts them, I've already got my answer from beelzebulletz, thanks to him, perhaps not a professional answer but it still easy to understand rather than too professional attitude one.... thumbup.gif

The blog :

Oh my oh my ...


P/s: For the UiTm student, I'm not againts all of you .. but just want to show one link that good to read, and this is my last post mentioned about your university and my reply anything related about your university ... next time, I'll not do it again since in the early I didn't have any intention to talk about your university, sorry forummer, friends, my relatives that studying and lecturing there too, and anyone related it. sorry again .. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by Irzani: Sep 17 2007, 01:53 AM
Irzani
post Sep 17 2007, 07:24 PM

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Are you sure the survey is true? Based on the real job? Or only working in their parents shop .. and sell ice cream or perhaps as a guard(Yes, I mean it .. don't worry, it's related to mass comm, perhaps?) .. do you still consider it's a job that related to the survey? and the most important thing, on my last graduation, I with my other friends just put working in the survey even that we are jobless, is it still consider a truely true survey? or because it's Ministry conduct the survey, we should see it as a truely 100% survey? La la la la .... drool.gif


P/s: It's good to give the fact and debate in the blog, yes, it's not an official one, but it still considered one of the most good blog/debatable/hot/racist in education (No no, I didn't lie .. someone should check the rating they have nowadays) .. owh no ... doh.gif


* I don't know why should I involved in this thread .. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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Irzani
post Sep 18 2007, 09:05 AM

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-Deleted on advice from another good forummer - laugh.gif

Have fun .... Mr Nonsense .. smile.gif

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Irzani
post May 28 2011, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(embrace tomorrow @ May 26 2011, 09:45 PM)
Ohhh. Let's say i'm offered by jpa to do a degree in accounting in a local U. Can i further my studies by taking post graduate first before i start to serve the government? Or must i serve right aaway after my degree?
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Don't worry .. even after years, a lot of my JPA friends still not got called to serve the government. And they are happily served the MNC with higher salary that equal or more to Gred 48 ... brows.gif

 

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