lets assume you get average 75k damage, 3% LS will give you 2.25k * 20% = 450 life. that is less than what you will get from 300 LoH on multiple mobs if you use FoT. but if you have plan to push for higher DPS, LS is probably better in long run. at least you will get LS from both hit and Sweeping wind.
however, that is just in theory. may be people that have tested it before can share their experience.
IINM LS has no multiple mob co-efficient scaling, which means that if you're hitting multiple mobs, your life stealing value goes up exponentially while LoH has that issue as you mentioned
assuming what i said is correct: - with 3% LS if you deal 100k dmg. and you hit 5 mobs, that's 500k dmg = 15k *20% = 3000 life per hit on 100k x5 mobs)
=edit= oh ya, not to mention skills also having a modifier:
reviewing this video just to refresh some of the facts in my head lol
krip even did a math summary: to equate 3% ls against 847 LoH, you need to do 113k dmg (per hit obviously)
then again, i am doing 100-200k dmg crits, and my 7ss does like 400-500k crits rofl. (if all 7 strikes crit, at max dmg, thats 3.5mil dmg mind you, can pretty much halfen cydea's hp pretty damn easily)
the co-efficient is already calculated on per spell basis (huge aoe spells get less for example) while LS does not have such co-efficient. so if you're doing really f***ing crazy dmg, LS is the way to go
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while i still can't get official math wiz and what not, i think we *SHOULD* be able to trust blue posts although blue has not replied on the inquiry as per the 2nd link/post.
Well, is Barb a good tanker? WW barb run around, so he does not tank. throwing barb kill in range, so he does not tank either. Monk had to exchange fists no matter how. So isn't obvious the answer?
Added on October 12, 2012, 1:54 pmDH tank? the glory of tank DH had passed. WD tank? his pet tank. WZ tank? incoming nerf in frozen build.
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 12 2012, 01:54 PM
dont think we need a list of 60's/inferno monks right? maybe we can have a list of tank builds/dps? though atm it seems like flix will just dominate both charts
maybe this can be done using the d3up.com site it will display the unbuff DPS and also unbuff EHP of your character
My d3up monk stats Damage per Second (Unbuff): 110,739.76 Effective Hit Points (Unbuff): 575,668 (stats vs lvl63 monster)
another one will be the more common diabloprogress.com but i found out the EHP calculation to be quite different compared to d3up.com
Well, is Barb a good tanker? WW barb run around, so he does not tank. throwing barb kill in range, so he does not tank either. Monk had to exchange fists no matter how. So isn't obvious the answer?
Added on October 12, 2012, 1:54 pmDH tank? the glory of tank DH had passed. WD tank? his pet tank. WZ tank? incoming nerf in frozen build.
Glory of DH tank haven't pass... I sure my DH tank more better and powerful in 1.0.5.. MP 10 only long life..I can kill all if they can't kill me..
Glory of DH tank haven't pass... I sure my DH tank more better and powerful in 1.0.5.. MP 10 only long life..I can kill all if they can't kill me..
not bad for a DH, your EHP unbuff according to d3progress is 437,088 but still not tank enough. at least compared to my monk but heck, we are different classes.
This post has been edited by sexbomb: Oct 12 2012, 02:25 PM
not bad for a DH, your EHP unbuff according to d3progress is 437,088 but still not tank enough. at least compared to my monk but heck, we are different characters.
May you be so kind to let me know the eHP of my barb that kills with a 2H skorn, please? Thks, in advance.
not bad for a DH, your EHP unbuff according to d3progress is 437,088 but still not tank enough. at least compared to my monk but heck, we are different classes.
My DH EHP last update is 491,311. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/shin-6679/ShiN/955543 EHP 491,311 maybe no enough for barb or monk but for DH more than enough.. I play with many barb or monk in public game, they still die when stand on fire, poison or arcane exspecial black water by Azmodan but me still ok after cast gloom.
This post has been edited by shin6619: Oct 12 2012, 02:53 PM
i agree what is mentioned up there about barbs, ww barbs doesnt tank. all they do is spin around everywhere. that build only benefit himself/herself in coop games. it's not much of difference for them to solo or go in co-op games actually. only thing good u can get is the warcry. in most games they are always rushing and move to new pack, they dont care and bother if the mobs are cleared or not. it's a good build to level fast, not a good build to play and actually help in coop games. although there are actually good ww barbs also i've met, other than that mostly disappointing.
My DH EHP last update is 491,311. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/shin-6679/ShiN/955543 EHP 491,311 maybe no enough for barb or monk but for DH more than enough.. I play worn many barb or monk in public game, they still die when stand on fire, poison or arcane exspecial black water by Azmodan but me still ok after cast gloom.
pubs
if i play in pubs, dont talk about elites. DH dies to any and everything including white mobs
you r an exception to that
This post has been edited by sexbomb: Oct 12 2012, 02:55 PM
i agree what is mentioned up there about barbs, ww barbs doesnt tank. all they do is spin around everywhere. that build only benefit himself/herself in coop games. it's not much of difference for them to solo or go in co-op games actually. only thing good u can get is the warcry. in most games they are always rushing and move to new pack, they dont care and bother if the mobs are cleared or not. it's a good build to level fast, not a good build to play and actually help in coop games. although there are actually good ww barbs also i've met, other than that mostly disappointing.
this!!!....b4 patch 1.04 they are quite useful bcuz they lead patiently for others to follow....
but after they were buffed up...all end up doing WW barb..and heck most of the time they were annoying....left team mate behind...jump into the middle of fray..forget us the ranges char at back...just to WW in the middle..while creep at the end...swarmed us at the edges....
and most of the time...the powerful ones clear the map for themselves ....and we are sometimes confused whether the a side of a map has been cleared or not..thus wasting our time just to checkout....cuz affraid we might left behind a lagendary
all of this make them just not suitable to become a tank anymore...and mostly this happened in public games..
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 12 2012, 03:25 PM
if i play in pubs, dont talk about elites. DH dies to any and everything including white mobs
Ya, DH really like a paper. Justnow play in public with a monk (wear shield). We fight Azmodan together. After Azmodan half life, it cast black water. The monk running away for the black water but I still stand in front of Azmodan and finish it before monk come back. Tanker = only standing there and hit. Haha.
Ya, DH really like a paper. Justnow play in public with a monk (wear shield). We fight Azmodan together. After Azmodan half life, it cast black water. The monk running away for the black water but I still stand in front of Azmodan and finish it before monk come back. Tanker = only standing there and hit. Haha.
and the monk equipment is same value standard as urs i might say?...my monk with shield can tank azmodan in public...
heck even my DH..with gloom not so superior as u equipment can tank azmodan in public...just need allress 700++ LOH bow 400 LS 2.8....got to say DH gloom is very powerful tool indeed ...
my DH equipment?...copy paste my monk equipment lol..
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 12 2012, 03:07 PM
that is true in the sense that there is nothing to tank. dead mobs don't need tanking, aye?
agree on that point, was so happy when barbs are just melting everything down as they go. but in public games, very few barbs wipe down the mobs by just spinning around. i have met strong ww barbs, and the truth is, they are already that strong, they farm so fast and by joining public games will only slow them down. most of them go solo only.
most ww barbs in coop games are only at average level. some dps class are fairly weak, having a ww barb doesn't really help in most cases. mobs run around and scatter the dps classes. well, different players see it differently maybe.
By the way, my 2H skorn wielding barb can tank Azmodan and kill it without running away also.
It has also obtained the Self Sufficient achievement challenge by beating Diablo in Act 4 (inferno) without taking any health globes, wells or potions at all. No kiting is involved and was done with my barb standing on one spot, period.
This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 12 2012, 03:21 PM
and the monk equipment is same value standard as urs i might say?...my monk with shield can tank azmodan in public...
heck even my DH..with gloom not so superior as u equipment can tank azmodan in public...just need allress 700++ LOH bow 400 LS 2.8....got to say DH gloom is very powerful tool indeed ...
my DH equipment?...copy paste my monk equipment lol..
Emm, tanker must got high loh and ias. Tank DH tank use grenade gas to tank last time but me use hungering arrow..
Im barb hybrid build here, mostly I was saw really tanker is the monk, sometime depends co -op wht hero n their ply style also ,helping each other or not ,lets say ww barb had alot plyer going co-op team but no teamwork at all, ww barb can ww spin like selfish ...
By the way, my 2H skorn wielding barb can tank Azmodan and kill it without running away also.
It has also obtained the Self Sufficient achievement challenge by beating Diablo in Act 4 (inferno) without taking any health globes, wells or potions at all. No kiting is involved and was done with my barb standing on one spot, period.
your barb's almighty, we get it.
This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 12 2012, 03:57 PM
Im barb hybrid build here, mostly I was saw really tanker is the monk, sometime depends co -op wht hero n their ply style also ,helping each other or not ,lets say ww barb had alot plyer going co-op team but no teamwork at all, ww barb can ww spin like selfish ...
agree with you..ystdy play coop with fren's bro, 1 monk, 2DH, 1barb, his barb just busy spinning everywhere by himself..too fast for us to catch.. he is awesome but not really protecting us..haha..
even got elites, also dunno where he spin to liao.. only left me to protect the 2 other DH from getting killed..haha. The DHs really tauhu white mob hit also die fast..
Well, is Barb a good tanker? WW barb run around, so he does not tank. throwing barb kill in range, so he does not tank either. Monk had to exchange fists no matter how. So isn't obvious the answer?
Added on October 12, 2012, 1:54 pmDH tank? the glory of tank DH had passed. WD tank? his pet tank. WZ tank? incoming nerf in frozen build.
Just to add. Among all classes of heroes, none has the tons of healing skills (both active and passive skills) like the monk.
if only monk heal skill scales of % instead of fixed numbers..
blizzard..blizzard..
plagues rogues in WoW before, plaguing monks in D3, good job blizz w
Added on October 12, 2012, 4:53 pm
QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 12 2012, 04:49 PM)
My point is; my barb is not almighty like you've pointed it out to be.
and how are you making your point by saying other people have better gear?
my point was if you wanted to harp about how awesome your barb is, there is the barbarian thread, you can do it there. (or the official bnet forums, then you can compare with the big boys about how they have 3x your gear or something)
This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 12 2012, 04:55 PM
I just wanted to share that there are barbs that still tanks with sword and shield.
In addition, 2H skorn wielding barbs are currently the new flavor ...just saying.
So, at least there are barb builds available now that allows face tanking like monk has always been. Therefore, every character class can help each other to farm loot drop more effectively and efficiently.
This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 12 2012, 05:24 PM
I still believe monk is best tanker serious Lol with decent amount of spend. Compare others class need super gear for tank.
It is a fact. Not a belief.
Beside the healing skills, no class of heroes can stay invincible + invisible for 4 seconds.
Added on October 12, 2012, 5:27 pm
QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 12 2012, 05:22 PM)
I just wanted to share that there are barbs that still tanks with sword and shield.
In addition, 2H skorn wielding barbs are currently the new flavor ...just saying.
So, at least there are barb builds available now that allows face tanking like monk has always been. Therefore, every character class and help each other to farm loot drop.
Yes and no.
Yes, with high HP and armor + so much improved gears (i.e. LOH/LS gears, Skorn, Vile Ward, Ice Climbers etc etc) in patch 104. No, in pre-patch 104. (Monks were very "tankable" before patch 104)
This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 12 2012, 05:29 PM
Beside the healing skills, no class of heroes can stay invincible + invisible for 4 seconds.
Added on October 12, 2012, 5:27 pm Yes and no.
Yes, with high HP and armor + so much improved gears (i.e. LOH/LS gears, Skorn, Vile Ward, Ice Climbers etc etc) in patch 104. No, in pre-patch 104. (Monks were very "tankable" before patch 104)
Precisely however barb needs a lot of gold to gear up sufficiently.
This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 12 2012, 05:34 PM
I still believe monk is best tanker serious Lol with decent amount of spend. Compare others class need super gear for tank.
barb scales with gear. monk scales for shit.
yes, you spend low amount, your tanking ability is superb, however as you spend more, you gain much less returns compared to a barb. take random numbers (again, examples, the numbers are all made up) for me to show my points:
a monk and barbarian that spends 100k on cheapo gear, chances are the monk tanks better than the barb. however once a monk and barbarian both spends 1million on tanking gear, the barbarian may be on equal footing in terms of EHP/tanking capabilities. once both of them spends maybe 10million, the barbarian will most likely out tank the monk.
as awesome as serenity is, it is bound to a very long cooldown for a short effective duration. this however: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/barbarian...nerves-of-steel despite having 10 seconds longer cooldown, has a much longer effective duration, which you can either rune it to prolong it even further, or let you gain health while under it.
FLAT OUT SCALING on your tanking base stats (armor AND vit) while we rely on an arguably offensive base stat (dex) barb's base stat is str which also easily adds towards armor.
they only need to watch out for all resists, which isnt that hard with warcry (again, that also adds on armor) SCALING their values at a % base. (hard target or time of need = 20% scale, lol)
the key thing, as is with LS vs LoH, is scaling. LoH (take this as the monk) wins initially, however once you have better stats, LS (barbarian) will overtake LoH in effectiveness.
you all didn't see the utube vids?? after u all have the key and plan, make it using the blacksmith and go to act 1, open a portal nearby the cain's house i think.
summon the portal and masuk to kill the special boss..which is combo.. ghom+rakanoth etc.
you all didn't see the utube vids?? after u all have the key and plan, make it using the blacksmith and go to act 1, open a portal nearby the cain's house i think.
summon the portal and masuk to kill the special boss..which is combo.. ghom+rakanoth etc.
mp 5 is like usual inferno right?....since ur a dps build...i think u should go at least 6-8...
MP2/3 is the 1.04 inferno. my build dont have high LoH/LS (only 3% LS) so, from my testing, farming is not very efficient in MP6/7. the LS i got is not enough to sustain the damage i am taking.
MP4/5 is just right for me. i can farm quite fast.
however, things are different in party. we should be able to do MP6/7 in party with multiple buff.
MP2/3 is the 1.04 inferno. my build dont have high LoH/LS (only 3% LS) so, from my testing, farming is not very efficient in MP6/7. the LS i got is not enough to sustain the damage i am taking.
MP4/5 is just right for me. i can farm quite fast.
however, things are different in party. we should be able to do MP6/7 in party with multiple buff.
woh MP3 is like inferno...so my bad then...i really though MP5 is like inferno... ... i heard wrong..
No I just curious a monk not using OWE and use fleet foot...
the item build i take from DH..at that time post 1.03 ppl talk about DPS DPS DPS....i think that time no cant DPS so much ..must balanced it with survival....when DH back in the early days focus on kaw kaw DPS...i instead focus on balanced...
ending up with a 700 allress 100K DPS DH at time farming act 4....till kill diablo with ease..when others keep dying....that was post 1.03
then just put the idea into this monk....i have one free slots because of this..where i can put fleetfooted..beacon of ytar ...transendeces or what ever i wishes..i felt it really paid off..
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 16 2012, 05:50 PM
the item build i take from DH..at that time post 1.03 ppl talk about DPS DPS DPS....i think that time no cant DPS so much ..must balanced it with survival....when DH back in the early days focus on kaw kaw DPS...i instead focus on balanced...
ending up with a 700 allress 100K DPS DH at time farming act 4....till kill diablo with ease..when others keep dying....that was post 1.03
then just put the idea into this monk....i have one free slots because of this..where i can put fleetfooted..beacon of ytar ...transendeces or what ever i wishes..i felt it really paid off..
Wah then must be very expensive stuff~ I cant afford all AR I am Arcane stack also~
the item build i take from DH..at that time post 1.03 ppl talk about DPS DPS DPS....i think that time no cant DPS so much ..must balanced it with survival....when DH back in the early days focus on kaw kaw DPS...i instead focus on balanced...
ending up with a 700 allress 100K DPS DH at time farming act 4....till kill diablo with ease..when others keep dying....that was post 1.03
then just put the idea into this monk....i have one free slots because of this..where i can put fleetfooted..beacon of ytar ...transendeces or what ever i wishes..i felt it really paid off..
Wah then must be very expensive stuff~ I cant afford all AR I am Arcane stack also~
i didnt use OWE also. i used to have AR 700+ before. but in 4 ppl coop, elite's fire/arcane made AR 700+ and AR 400+ no different, can't stand in there to fight also, maybe different is only a second to die? so i switched to fleet foot / beacon of ytar / combination strike / guiding light long time ago.
This post has been edited by dreaming: Oct 16 2012, 08:37 PM
i didnt use OWE also. i used to have AR 700+ before. but in 4 ppl coop, elite's fire/arcane made AR 700+ and AR 400+ no different, can't stand in there to fight also, maybe different is only a second to die? so i switched to fleet foot / beacon of ytar / combination strike / guiding light long time ago.
that seconds counts...actually i quite observed the dmg done to a high AR vs low AR when descretor took place....how?..i use to have a glass cannon dh equipment...+ plus high AR onces...
i think if u got around 800++ AR ...u can sit around 2-3 second in decretor....compare when u have low AR..which my glass cannon DH was around 300 AR....1-2 sec die straight...
and thats not even counting LOH and LS...if u got that...with high AR u can sit in it a lot longer....3-4 second no kidding..even tank it...sometimes..
my point is...the HP drops slowly with high AR compare to low AR..HP drops so fast ....ur too late to step out of it....
i didnt use OWE also. i used to have AR 700+ before. but in 4 ppl coop, elite's fire/arcane made AR 700+ and AR 400+ no different, can't stand in there to fight also, maybe different is only a second to die? so i switched to fleet foot / beacon of ytar / combination strike / guiding light long time ago.
With buff (WC+Mantra), my Monk has 1810 AR. My monk still died.
My monk died because of carelessness most of the times. i.e. walk into arcane. Land on an arcane. Stunt & doped & surrounded & hit by 5-6 mobs at the same time.
However, you can tell big difference on the survivability. As sangtupperware mentioned, the HP doesn't drain fast if you have high AR. You can feel your character is more solid & "tankable". Besides, AR alone is not enough, you need it combo with LOH/LS for life recovery if you wanna tank.
This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 16 2012, 09:20 PM
With buff (WC+Mantra), my Monk has 1810 AR. My monk still died.
My monk died because of carelessness most of the times. i.e. walk into arcane. Land on an arcane. Stunt & doped & surrounded & hit by 5-6 mobs at the same time.
However, you can tell big difference on the survivability. As sangtupperware mentioned, the HP doesn't drain fast if you have high AR. You can feel your character is more solid & "tankable". Besides, AR alone is not enough, you need it combo with LOH/LS for life recovery if you wanna tank.
this!
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 16 2012, 09:25 PM
that seconds counts...actually i quite observed the dmg done to a high AR vs low AR when descretor took place....how?..i use to have a glass cannon dh equipment...+ plus high AR onces...
i think if u got around 800++ AR ...u can sit around 2-3 second in decretor....compare when u have low AR..which my glass cannon DH was around 300 AR....1-2 sec die straight...
and thats not even counting LOH and LS...if u got that...with high AR u can sit in it a lot longer....3-4 second no kidding..even tank it...sometimes..
my point is...the HP drops slowly with high AR compare to low AR..HP drops so fast ....ur too late to step out of it....
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 16 2012, 09:20 PM)
With buff (WC+Mantra), my Monk has 1810 AR. My monk still died.
My monk died because of carelessness most of the times. i.e. walk into arcane. Land on an arcane. Stunt & doped & surrounded & hit by 5-6 mobs at the same time.
However, you can tell big difference on the survivability. As sangtupperware mentioned, the HP doesn't drain fast if you have high AR. You can feel your character is more solid & "tankable". Besides, AR alone is not enough, you need it combo with LOH/LS for life recovery if you wanna tank.
I got 1800 LoH with 2.5 attack speed... and 800 AR, I can stand at fire provided no freeze and nightmare. Serious
Maximum Life 31,378.82 Life Steal 0% Life per Hit 1,824 Total Life Bonus 7% Life per Second 419 Life per Kill 0 Health Globe Healing Bonus 11,248 Bonus to Gold/Globe Radius 0
This post has been edited by M2K2Land: Oct 16 2012, 09:26 PM
yes, agree with you, 1 sec could make a different, but i think the thing that actually make us stay longer and a little bit tanker is high LOH/LS with high attack speed.
if i have base AR like 400+, i would rather play a bit carefully and remember to to re-position my monk from fire/arcane. And i would choose other skill like: 1. beacon of ytar - all skill cold down reduction 20%, that mean i can use serenity, 7ss, blinding flash, breath of heaven and etc more oftenly, or 2. combination strike / guiding light so that i can take down mob quickly, or 3. fleet foot - run away from danger faster and chase smoke from ww barb XD
Maximum Life 31,378.82 Life Steal 0% Life per Hit 1,824 Total Life Bonus 7% Life per Second 419 Life per Kill 0 Health Globe Healing Bonus 11,248 Bonus to Gold/Globe Radius 0
You are one of those with balance build. Very good DPS/attack speed/LOH.
Maximum Life 31,378.82 Life Steal 0% Life per Hit 1,824 Total Life Bonus 7% Life per Second 419 Life per Kill 0 Health Globe Healing Bonus 11,248 Bonus to Gold/Globe Radius 0
everthing else was ok in mp7 except for molten and reflect dmg elites, need to kite or else will die. take around a 1min+ to destroy them if dont have molten or reflect dmg. its not that easy, its challenging at times. i forgot to change my passive skills during mp7. was using OwE, StI and Fleet Foot.....should have swap fleet for something else
i guess mp6 will be ideal and smooth for me. gonna test mp6 later
How are the Reflect Damage affix hurt our fellow monk now? Now 100k damage we deal to RD does cause some problem if we do not have high life sustain stats.
hello brother monk~.. wanna ask if Echoing fury is a good buy to boost DPS? just sold a shenlong that drop in patch 105.. manage to farm huge amount of gold~
so, is echoing fury a good boost? a really good one~
or is there any other suggestion beside echoing fury?
sorry your 2nd post isnt helping me to understand either. i'll leave this for someone else to answer its like ur asking a barb is better or a monk is better
lol.. no mah.. mayb some will think that won kim lau is better or some may say other weapon mah...
i just want to ask advise whereby echoing fury vs other monk weapon, is it worth getting it or go for other options like won kim lau?
I have both. Sold echo (had 2 ...from drops 1.2k dps no sockets though). WKL is better if you play FoT and SW cyclone. Can really see the diff when you ahve at least 6% Lighting damage/ 23-25% lightning skills.
I hated echo becasue of the fear. Mine had quite high fear rate (16-18%) so... mobs keep running away which is not very good if you are a tanking monk. But Echo has a nice +0.2X attacks, which will add to the offhand, i.e if offhand is a mace, it will be 1.2 +0.2X per sec. so dual weilding will be very good. Paring it with WKL or Buring Axe of Suckis (sarkis)..is very good as you get the additional bonus for the +min damage + max damage.
The problem with WKL..is low DPS..getting a WKL > 1k DPS is very rare. Really good WKL, i.e 9XX DPS socket + LSi with nice bonus (6%, 23-25%)is pretty expensive but to me its will be best weapon (offhand) for a monk on Fot / Sw. Also you can consider Buring axe, just change SW cyclone to fire...got life steal ...nice!!!!..watch them burn and you gain life..
I have both. Sold echo (had 2 ...from drops 1.2k dps no sockets though). WKL is better if you play FoT and SW cyclone. Can really see the diff when you ahve at least 6% Lighting damage/ 23-25% lightning skills.
I hated echo becasue of the fear. Mine had quite high fear rate (16-18%) so... mobs keep running away which is not very good if you are a tanking monk. But Echo has a nice +0.2X attacks, which will add to the offhand, i.e if offhand is a mace, it will be 1.2 +0.2X per sec. so dual weilding will be very good. Paring it with WKL or Buring Axe of Suckis (sarkis)..is very good as you get the additional bonus for the +min damage + max damage.
The problem with WKL..is low DPS..getting a WKL > 1k DPS is very rare. Really good WKL, i.e 9XX DPS socket + LSi with nice bonus (6%, 23-25%)is pretty expensive but to me its will be best weapon (offhand) for a monk on Fot / Sw. Also you can consider Buring axe, just change SW cyclone to fire...got life steal ...nice!!!!..watch them burn and you gain life..
woh.. thanks bro... this is really helpful.... so mainly people go won kim lau for offhand ah?
woh.. thanks bro... this is really helpful.... so mainly people go won kim lau for offhand ah?
Yup. WKL mostly as offhand as DPS not high enough to be main. If go WKL as off hand ..for the mian hand make sure you get highest damage range (the little number thats says 600-900 damage) and look for +min+max damage as the 5-6% bonus will apply. The 5-6% bonus will not apply to elemental damage eg like +300-600 poison damage).
Yup. WKL mostly as offhand as DPS not high enough to be main. If go WKL as off hand ..for the mian hand make sure you get highest damage range (the little number thats says 600-900 damage) and look for +min+max damage as the 5-6% bonus will apply. The 5-6% bonus will not apply to elemental damage eg like +300-600 poison damage).
hmmm... thanks alot bro.. now i know what to look for... thank you very much...
Added on October 18, 2012, 12:37 pmby the way, do any of u go shield when fighting uber boss...
i fought 2 realms yesterday on MP6. rakanoth+ghom & skel+magdha.
i have to go shield on both.. manage to win the skel+magdha..
but kena rape by ghom+rakanoth... ghom kentut is too powerful d..
what should i do man? should i get high LOH+LS?
I think my dps (50k), AR 700, and armor 5500++ is quite decent but still cant tank the fart..
ps: my current LS 2.8%, LOH 700, Life regen 600.
This post has been edited by alvinfcj: Oct 18 2012, 12:37 PM
mp7 got alot nice item... guys should try... i got 7 legendary in around 5 hours~
I think meelee .. can do it at MP 7-10. DH will have hard time except meelee DH. Pity my DH..MP5 aledi need to kite like no tomorrow..with 100k no buff tim.
I think meelee .. can do it at MP 7-10. DH will have hard time except meelee DH. Pity my DH..MP5 aledi need to kite like no tomorrow..with 100k no buff tim.
In addition to that, elites are now getting smarter. They will chase after ranged characters.
I think meelee .. can do it at MP 7-10. DH will have hard time except meelee DH. Pity my DH..MP5 aledi need to kite like no tomorrow..with 100k no buff tim.
easy meh... mp8 butcher 1 hit i KO " mp7 beliar 1 green boom i died easy meh Lol
monk reporting in i must express my excitement wit the 20% reduce cooldown period. but also a pain with the 50% drop of armor. more fun to play tot
beacon is nice for 1.05 due to STI and resolved Nerf... I using bea =con, sti and owe right now and amour from 9k drop to 7k. I only manage to play around mp7-mp8 if solo.
beacon is nice for 1.05 due to STI and resolved Nerf... I using bea =con, sti and owe right now and amour from 9k drop to 7k. I only manage to play around mp7-mp8 if solo.
wow u must be one crazy monkies lol. my comfort zone still at mp3-4. mayb with barb assist can go higher. nice monkie unite
hehehe so now when i party on mp8 to fight uberbosses. what i did was, go to AH buy 2 purple gem +1.2k LoH = 2.4k+ LoH
mp8 tank ghom's fart no problem at all (without barb)
MP10 Ghom fight is no problem too, solo or co-op.
The problem now is MP8 uber boss fight in co-op game, specifically Kulle and Siegebreaker. Just no way to beat it in 8 minutes. That is the toughest fight I encountered so far. To be precise, we can't beat the enrage timer.
The problem now is MP8 uber boss fight in co-op game, specifically Kulle and Siegebreaker. Just no way to beat it in 8 minutes. That is the toughest fight I encountered so far. To be precise, we can't beat the enrage timer.
i never tried mp10 yet, max only did party mp9 with frens. with a barb feels so much easier. long time never use purple gem in weapons hehehe since 1.0.3 y0
does anyone notice legendary drop rate is not as good as first day 1.0.5 patch? first day after patch i get 1 green 1 legendary glove; but yesterday night i play 4hours+ after server restart didnt get any
does anyone notice legendary drop rate is not as good as first day 1.0.5 patch? first day after patch i get 1 green 1 legendary glove; but yesterday night i play 4hours+ after server restart didnt get any
does anyone notice legendary drop rate is not as good as first day 1.0.5 patch? first day after patch i get 1 green 1 legendary glove; but yesterday night i play 4hours+ after server restart didnt get any
I found 2 keys in act 3 and act 2 on MP 5 and MP 3 on first day. but zero legendary or green
i seen many of you been posting the level you are farming
sometimes i wonder how many minutes for you to finish your run? is it really that efficient?
my monk play mp3 like chopping sayur, feel like it is almost the same with 1.0.4; i play mp4 & mp5. but coop with fren at mp5 elite chop me back like sayur because i dont hv LOH/LS so i play mp4 (solo or coop) or mp5 (solo), playing whole map A3, fighting every single mob/hole/quest, take/identify/sale only yellow level 60 items and above took me about 2hrs
i think the efficiency is very much depend on your gear and your definition on acceptable duration for a run. for me mp4/mp5 + 2 hours are fine.
So, how's the survivability of our fellow monks? I just throw in about 15mil to get an inna spirit stone and a +900LoH offhand. Now I can tank nicely in MP5 (although takes time to kill with 46k dps unbuff) http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur-1278/hero/9090824
So, how's the survivability of our fellow monks? I just throw in about 15mil to get an inna spirit stone and a +900LoH offhand. Now I can tank nicely in MP5 (although takes time to kill with 46k dps unbuff) http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur-1278/hero/9090824
Next is to hunt for a inna pant.
Nais monk there bro
I will gather around 200M if my LK chest manage to sell. Weapon upgrade of armor first you reckon?
Shoulder if armor weapon.... really no idea mang, if really want to choose i will remove the sever for LoH+LS (much like my offhand) for better survivability Dream grinder also can go.
Shoulder if armor weapon.... really no idea mang, if really want to choose i will remove the sever for LoH+LS (much like my offhand) for better survivability Dream grinder also can go.
Thanks for the tips bro. Ill try search for weapon like urs hehe
Calculation in process... armor lower by 300 , AR lower by another 57 , vit lower by 135 (ok as I got enough VIT) in exchange for: 130 dex, 1%CC, IAS8%, movement 12%
Added on October 20, 2012, 12:00 pm
QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
Thanks for the tips bro. Ill try search for weapon like urs hehe
Skorn with LS viable bro?
In order to use 2H effectively, we need to stack lots of att speed to it. Skorn only roll one random properties and to get >5%LS with decent other stats, I dunno how's the price would be. Personally I would go dual wield - Guardian's path.
NOTE: my offhand cost me <5mil.
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 20 2012, 12:00 PM
Calculation in process... armor lower by 300 , AR lower by another 57 , vit lower by 135 (ok as I got enough VIT) in exchange for: 130 dex, 1%CC, IAS8%, movement 12%
let me know if ur interested, im willing to let it go for 25m to u guys here
Added on October 20, 2012, 12:04 pm130dex, 1cc and 8ias is a big dps improvement
This post has been edited by sexbomb: Oct 20 2012, 12:04 PM
lol aleune got it right. my chest piece and pants are the only 2 items found and worn. i think so far i've found like 4 inna pants already haha. one of them was in a game with aleune~
lol aleune got it right. my chest piece and pants are the only 2 items found and worn. i think so far i've found like 4 inna pants already haha. one of them was in a game with aleune~
Why you so lucky one? I never found any Inna's gears before. Luck is just not on my side.
P/S To get an Inna's gear is already lucky. To get an Inna's with high AR is very very very lucky.
This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 20 2012, 06:43 PM
Why you so lucky one? I never found any Inna's gears before. Luck is just not on my side.
P/S To get an Inna's gear is already lucky. To get an Inna's with high AR is very very very lucky.
yalor.... im also surprise that im still getting innas now. i looted a few immortal kings and zumimassa too. tal rasha only 1 so far never get any nats so far
woohoo. so happy today, was biddin like mad for inna radiance,but fail to get. finally got myself one while farming in act3 :DDD best la blizzard, 3 legend today. strange is, i only play mp0 in public games. the drop rate seem promising lately
Added on October 20, 2012, 11:07 pmwatching cell 211, and i think he is the best man for real life d3 monk hahaha
This post has been edited by CyborgR: Oct 20 2012, 11:08 PM
Congratulations on your successful auction in Diablo III! Item name 40 Tome of Secrets Time of transaction 20 Oct 2012 02:23 PM PDT Sale price $8.50 Transaction fee $1.50 Applicable taxes $0.00 Your proceeds $7.00
Why you so lucky one? I never found any Inna's gears before. Luck is just not on my side.
P/S To get an Inna's gear is already lucky. To get an Inna's with high AR is very very very lucky.
got one inna's vase expenses last night.....was so happy ...cuz now can complete 3 sets of that inna's.....but before id'ing was hoping for at least 40 AR affixes...
suddenly after id'ed....got 14 AR!!!...id say wafaak!!?...don give at all better la....mourning to myself..
out of anger just put it in GAH for 40M....i wonder if ppl ever wanna buy it.....
p/s: breached the 73K unbuffed DPS mark with a shield...aiming for a witching hour belt just to breach 83K unbuffed DPS mark..
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 21 2012, 09:37 AM
Congratulations on your successful auction in Diablo III! Item name 40 Tome of Secrets Time of transaction 20 Oct 2012 02:23 PM PDT Sale price $8.50 Transaction fee $1.50 Applicable taxes $0.00 Your proceeds $7.00
fellow monk, i would like to ask this, 1. is there a difference to equip a main hand with LS or off hand with LS? in term of amount of LS or frequency of LS? 2. is there a difference to dps output on same dps weapon with difference attack speed to be equip on main hand and off hand? ie 1000 dps mace 1.20 attack speed and 1000 dps dagger 1.50 attack speed, swap in between main hand and off hand.
confuse as i m from wow vanilla, there is a difference in wow : ) Thanks ya.
fellow monk, i would like to ask this, 1. is there a difference to equip a main hand with LS or off hand with LS? in term of amount of LS or frequency of LS? 2. is there a difference to dps output on same dps weapon with difference attack speed to be equip on main hand and off hand? ie 1000 dps mace 1.20 attack speed and 1000 dps dagger 1.50 attack speed, swap in between main hand and off hand.
confuse as i m from wow vanilla, there is a difference in wow : ) Thanks ya.
both no
Added on October 22, 2012, 8:08 am
QUOTE(sifekangel @ Oct 22 2012, 02:33 AM)
my 1st green item after 1.0.5
80million!
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 22 2012, 08:08 AM
Any tanker monk here? I need a tanker monk that can tank MP6 uber boss (i.e. Ghom/Siegebreaker).
you are the best tanker monk i ever play with... why need another tanker?
your current Hellfire ring is not good enough? i tot it's pretty good already...
Added on October 22, 2012, 9:36 am
QUOTE(dreaming @ Oct 21 2012, 09:30 PM)
just finished a solo game A3 mp4, 1 set 3 legendary and a key. first time so many legendary in a game, but the stat are so suck ...
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my loot has been bad lately...
Added on October 22, 2012, 9:40 am
QUOTE(Taintedfury @ Oct 22 2012, 02:30 AM)
fellow monk, i would like to ask this, 1. is there a difference to equip a main hand with LS or off hand with LS? in term of amount of LS or frequency of LS? 2. is there a difference to dps output on same dps weapon with difference attack speed to be equip on main hand and off hand? ie 1000 dps mace 1.20 attack speed and 1000 dps dagger 1.50 attack speed, swap in between main hand and off hand.
confuse as i m from wow vanilla, there is a difference in wow : ) Thanks ya.
same answer as yuhhaur, "no" to 1st question, but for (2), you may want to put 1000dps mace with 1.2 in main hand, and 1.5 in offhand.
AFAIK, the DPS in weapon inclusive of the Attack Speed. So, your 1000 dps with 1.5 AS actually has lower base damage.
Whenever possible, put high DPS in main hand to benefit from skill that calculate based on based damage.
I didn't actually test this, so, this is just my theory....
Added on October 22, 2012, 9:40 am
QUOTE(sifekangel @ Oct 22 2012, 02:33 AM)
my 1st green item after 1.0.5
Inna pant... Y U NO COME TO ME!
This post has been edited by cowithgun: Oct 22 2012, 09:40 AM
next update: 1- amulet 2- gloves 3- bracers 4- weapon
any insights, critics, comments, trolling, are appreciated
To survive in inferno mp7-10 you need Loh more than 1.8k and resistance at least 700 but best is 800. Else you cant stand with the fire/arcane or poison. I suggest you yo change your weapon 1st before you go for others item.
You got 3 gears with +12% movement speed, kinda waste. How's survivability in MP5 and above? with only 2.4%LS...
Added on October 22, 2012, 10:16 amAnd you stacked another 10% fleet foot. to run away faster?
i keep the lacunis because of the AS bonus oni, since I like my attack speed to hover around 2.00, will try to upgrade with dex/vit/ar/cc bracers later
i think i did mentioned it before dude, i only hang around MP1 for paragorn levelling and item farming. only problematic elites are descretor and api bawah kaki. Since I'm on EF, chasing the runaway elites on descretor is pain hahaha. But normally i will Mantra,Blind, SSS, if not dead Serenity. Those sequence will surely drop elites in MP1
fleet foot to push my MS to 34 hehe, kinda like the 34% movespeed to travel around.
I can facetank MP3/4 2 dissecretor (not 3) with my 5.5%LS + 1.6kLoH. anything above move away from the shiat (much like 1.0.3) Haven't try MP6 and above. Maybe try when I got my bid won for the 2nd inna item (due tonight)
Added on October 22, 2012, 10:50 am
QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 22 2012, 10:32 AM)
haha forgot about gems, will do bro, thanks i keep the lacunis because of the AS bonus oni, since I like my attack speed to hover around 2.00, will try to upgrade with dex/vit/ar/cc bracers later
i think i did mentioned it before dude, i only hang around MP1 for paragorn levelling and item farming. only problematic elites are descretor and api bawah kaki. Since I'm on EF, chasing the runaway elites on descretor is pain hahaha. But normally i will Mantra,Blind, SSS, if not dead Serenity. Those sequence will surely drop elites in MP1
fleet foot to push my MS to 34 hehe, kinda like the 34% movespeed to travel around.
What movement speed, i got none stacked (still, waiting for the inna pants to come in +12%)
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 22 2012, 10:50 AM
you are the best tanker monk i ever play with... why need another tanker?
2 reasons. 1) With the nerf in patch 105, generally we need WC + MoH. So, Monk is very important in patch 105 (i.e. tank uber boss, Siegebreaker & Ghom while other players attack another boss). Every team player feels so easy if there is a tanker monk. 2) I can't keep playing monk in co-op game. I need another tanker monk so that I can play other chars (Barb/DH/WD/WZ). Of course, it is cool to have 2 monks in a 4-player co-op.
By the way, I do not use Transcendence as my passive skill. I replace it with Guiding Light combo with MoH/Time of Need for additional damage & defence. 16% additional damage to all members + AR bonus + negligible shield & healing.
2 reasons. 1) With the nerf in patch 105, generally we need WC + MoH. So, Monk is very important in patch 105 (i.e. tank uber boss, Siegebreaker & Ghom while other players attack another boss). Every team player feels so easy if there is a tanker monk. 2) I can't keep playing monk in co-op game. I need another tanker monk so that I can play other chars (Barb/DH/WD/WZ). Of course, it is cool to have 2 monks in a 4-player co-op.
By the way, I do not use Transcendence as my passive skill. I replace it with Guiding Light combo with MoH/Time of Need for additional damage & defence. 16% additional damage to all members + AR bonus + negligible shield & healing.
i saw ur barb and WD quite powerful... .....
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 22 2012, 10:58 AM
Barb is absolutely fun to play. Now going weapon throwing + WW. Throwing "shield" like Captain America.
Wiz, she is the weakest among all heroes. I still can't find a good off-hand source at reasonable rate (all off-hand source with more than 350 max damage cost more than 100m )
sorry i edited my post to your WD already.. ..and i though wiz equipment is quite cheap...
Wiz items are the most expensive class.
For instance, the off-hand weapon, you can get very good legendary DH and WD off-hand weapon in the range of 40-60m gold. Wiz's off hand weapon is from 100M-Billion.
Monk is the cheapest. You can do decently good with all yellow rare. Of course, it would cost more if you go Inna's & Natalyas.
Yup, 30mil for single resist chest/pant and 100mil for AR for inna. veli pain to buy.
bro i just put an inna's cloth for a... i forget about 1M or 5M bid...try go bid for it...i just put low prize bcuz there's no AR in it..and i need the money pool fast..
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 22 2012, 11:16 AM
bro i just put an inna's cloth for a... i forget about 1M or 5M bid...try go bid for it...i just put low prize bcuz there's no AR in it..and i need the money pool fast..
and I need that specific resist stacking... low resist cannot coup
Barb is absolutely fun to play. Now going weapon throwing + WW. Throwing "shield" like Captain America.
Wiz, she is the weakest among all heroes. I still can't find a good off-hand source at reasonable rate (all off-hand source with more than 350 max damage cost more than 100m )
bro i hav one source tonite show u over 300average damage, str, vit, dex, int all over 100state c.chance 8.5% n soc
Hey guys need ur super help i want to upgrade my monk so that i can farm up to MP5 then onto MP10 hopefully using my high crit transcendence build i tried using this gear to start MP10 ACT 1 starting and i could handle max 3 white mob at one time took me like 5 min to kill them but died the moment a forth or more mob came i dont know how to upgrade or what to upgrade on my monk need ur expertise in upgrading my monk my current build i can farm MP1 with minimal deaths with elites and MP2 with lots of death with elites and MP3 lots of deaths with normal mobs So what should i do my target is to get atleast 100K unbuffed DPS to farm MP10 What to upgrade, what to focus on stats in upgrade Thanks guys MKRuleZ52#6289 My profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MKRuleZ...9/hero/15562030
Hey guys need ur super help i want to upgrade my monk so that i can farm up to MP5 then onto MP10 hopefully using my high crit transcendence build i tried using this gear to start MP10 ACT 1 starting and i could handle max 3 white mob at one time took me like 5 min to kill them but died the moment a forth or more mob came i dont know how to upgrade or what to upgrade on my monk need ur expertise in upgrading my monk my current build i can farm MP1 with minimal deaths with elites and MP2 with lots of death with elites and MP3 lots of deaths with normal mobs So what should i do my target is to get atleast 100K unbuffed DPS to farm MP10 What to upgrade, what to focus on stats in upgrade Thanks guys MKRuleZ52#6289 My profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MKRuleZ...9/hero/15562030
You got too many room to upgrade, money money money...
For survive please upgrade your armor (5k at least) and resistance (700+) Your DPS was too low (if you got high resistance and amour u no need sheild), try use dual weapon. try to get ur loh/ls up for tanking. you can focus inna set and nata's set for better damage.
You can refer if you need too, mine are not the best but good for mp7-mp9 us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/D3JT-6798/hero/1852358
guys i need help raising money to upgrade my monk gear i have a lot of monks weapons and armors that i am not using and are just taking up unnecessary space can someone help me and buy it off me, all of it or however much u can buy at 50% price taking ur offer, i need to raise at least 50 mil to able to able to upgrade a decent gear to farm MP5 and above add me in US Server MKRuleZ52#6289
This post has been edited by mstmohdkut: Oct 22 2012, 02:51 PM
guys i need help raising money to upgrade my monk gear i have a lot of monks weapons and armors that i am not using and are just taking up unnecessary space can someone help me and buy it off me, all of it or however much u can buy at 50% price taking ur offer, i need to raise at least 50 mil to able to able to upgrade a decent gear to farm MP5 and above
show us your gears...
lately AH blooming with gear and pricing is crazy over-price.
guys i need help raising money to upgrade my monk gear i have a lot of monks weapons and armors that i am not using and are just taking up unnecessary space can someone help me and buy it off me, all of it or however much u can buy at 50% price taking ur offer, i need to raise at least 50 mil to able to able to upgrade a decent gear to farm MP5 and above
if you, yourself if not using... you think there is any price? somemore 50mil is only can buy few item. You need to farm hard to get good item.
guys i need help raising money to upgrade my monk gear i have a lot of monks weapons and armors that i am not using and are just taking up unnecessary space can someone help me and buy it off me, all of it or however much u can buy at 50% price taking ur offer, i need to raise at least 50 mil to able to able to upgrade a decent gear to farm MP5 and above
Dude, seriously with your gear now, just go farming in MP1 any acts. Or if your gear cant handle the MP1 elites, then just go farm in MP0 in Act3
I doubt with 50M you can "farm" MP5. If by farm you mean by killing elites by 1 cycle of BF and Serenity by using 50M, you simply can't.
If you mean farm by simply not dieing and outlived the elites by massive stacks of defense and LoH/LS/LpSS, then 50M can get you that item.
IMO, farm is to kill efficiently and FAST, not to outlive the elites
So, do you mean you will raise 50M to FARM or SURVIVE mp5 above?
Dude, seriously with your gear now, just go farming in MP1 any acts. Or if your gear cant handle the MP1 elites, then just go farm in MP0 in Act3
I doubt with 50M you can "farm" MP5. If by farm you mean by killing elites by 1 cycle of BF and Serenity by using 50M, you simply can't.
If you mean farm by simply not dieing and outlived the elites by massive stacks of defense and LoH/LS/LpSS, then 50M can get you that item.
IMO, farm is to kill efficiently and FAST, not to outlive the elites
So, do you mean you will raise 50M to FARM or SURVIVE mp5 above?
He just need to be realistic and do more farming, that is only my advise... for me 50mil only can get few decent item... and 50mil for one good item is even hard...
Henry, you need to revamp your gears. It's time to build a tanker monk with 70K DPS. My Zulu will back you up.
i was thinking to revamp my monk after i done gem upgrade on my wd... 8 RS Topaz to go... low gold... hope my loots can be sell... always get none WD loots... i kena curse izzit...
i was thinking to revamp my monk after i done gem upgrade on my wd... 8 RS Topaz to go... low gold... hope my loots can be sell... always get none WD loots... i kena curse izzit...
It is possible but is always not easy unless you are Cash player. I cant concentrate too many character, that why I only stick to play 1 char. Compare to you all got so many character lvl60, I salute all of you
I can give you what ever I got if I not using but those item are not so promising
It is possible but is always not easy unless you are Cash player. I cant concentrate too many character, that why I only stick to play 1 char. Compare to you all got so many character lvl60, I salute all of you
I can give you what ever I got if I not using but those item are not so promising
thanks bro...
slowly revamp my monk... using the loots available... like tht day i showed u some of my capalang weapons...
Henry, you need to revamp your gears. It's time to build a tanker monk with 70K DPS. My Zulu will back you up.
a tanker monk ...which dual wield?...i prefer myself as a semitank monk...i got the dmg (MOC + BOH + 75KDPS)...i got the dodge (sixthsense = 53% total dodge)...i got the AR + armor + block (800+ AR + 7000 armor + 37% from shield)....i got the LOH + LS (900+2.5%) ...
my point is still i cant sit in descreator pools and arcane beam for too long..need to step aside abit....if dual wield...i just thing that it will be harder....and ya i admit..my though is contradictory from whats others have mentioned..
but then if ur going for dual wield...definitely LOH and LS is the most important thing in ur build...
p/s: never try high value LOH + LS cuz that will sacrifice alot of my CC and CD...i kind interested in doing that type of build though.. but i will settle my current project first...
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 22 2012, 04:12 PM
Yes, please show me. I'll grab it if it's better than my existing one.
Yah tat awesome source go melee range but no APOC only, i think can replace ur old source, i bought this can say not very expensive ,but i dint use anymore.....
Yah tat awesome source go melee range but no APOC only, i think can replace ur old source, i bought this can say not very expensive ,but i dint use anymore.....
Hahaha... I think no APOC is okay. I have big problem to control a CM wiz. I got really headache to spam keys on the keyboard. The combination of keys are much more complicated than WW Barb. May be I am just not used to it.
Added on October 22, 2012, 4:30 pm
QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 22 2012, 03:54 PM)
a tanker monk ...which dual wield?...i prefer myself as a semitank monk...i got the dmg (MOC + BOH + 75KDPS)...i got the dodge (sixthsense = 53% total dodge)...i got the AR + armor + block (800+ AR + 7000 armor + 37% from shield)....i got the LOH + LS (900+2.5%) ...
my point is still i cant sit in descreator pools and arcane beam for too long..need to step aside abit....if dual wield...i just thing that it will be harder....and ya i admit..my though is contradictory from whats others have mentioned..
but then if ur going for dual wield...definitely LOH and LS is the most important thing in ur build...
p/s: never try high value LOH + LS cuz that will sacrifice alot of my CC and CD...i kind interested in doing that type of build though.. but i will settle my current project first...
I am working on improving my DPS/Armor/AR. It is difficult to find a replacement if i want to keep the same LOH/LS/Armor/AR, especially the weapon.
I have 50K DPS/1059AR/6455 armor now (unbuff). I see there is still room for improvement. I hope to get 60K DPS / 1100 AR / 7000 armor.
This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 22 2012, 04:30 PM
guys i need help raising money to upgrade my monk gear i have a lot of monks weapons and armors that i am not using and are just taking up unnecessary space can someone help me and buy it off me, all of it or however much u can buy at 50% price taking ur offer, i need to raise at least 50 mil to able to able to upgrade a decent gear to farm MP5 and above add me in US Server MKRuleZ52#6289
You meant what you are wearing is the best out of the stash? Overall your gear had lots of room to improve. Try push your dex up to at least 1.8k (prefer to go beyond 2k) while maintaining 5k armor (6k with shield) Goldskin might help the gold for temporary (to get gear to farm MP1-2) but in the long run it is not beneficial consider that the price at AH is crazily high for those mid-high end gears.
i tried a different build sometime ago, im currently able to solo and tank up to MP5 with minimal deaths. in coop, if with good dps team it's fairly easy.
im a cylone tank monk. so i was able to benefit from my LoH coz i used to spam cylclone together with an aoe skill ~altho my LoH is not that high (1.2k) if higher dps i would go for life steal already. serenity is a life saver. and also 'keen eye'. i find surviving is more important than killing fast since im a tank. white mobs dont need keen eye, only elite encounters requires me to spam keen reach.
killed my dps for this build but it was worth it, heavy dpser love farming with me. killing is real quick because of the cyclone skill also.
This post has been edited by paranoid: Oct 22 2012, 05:11 PM
Hahaha... I think no APOC is okay. I have big problem to control a CM wiz. I got really headache to spam keys on the keyboard. The combination of keys are much more complicated than WW Barb. May be I am just not used to it.
Lol yes im ply cm tank always keep on pressing key button non stop until get stuck n too tired from my finger.. so i stop my wiz at the moment.... monk n barb better....
i tried a different build sometime ago, im currently able to solo and tank up to MP5 with minimal deaths. in coop, if with good dps team it's fairly easy.
im a cylone tank monk. so i was able to benefit from my LoH coz i used to spam cylclone together with an aoe skill ~altho my LoH is not that high (1.2k) if higher dps i would go for life steal already. serenity is a life saver. and also 'keen reach'. i find surviving is more important than killing fast since im a tank. white mobs dont need keen reach, only elite encounters requires me to spam keen reach.
killed my dps for this build but it was worth it, heavy dpser love farming with me. killing is real quick because of the cyclone skill also.
Please share your build. Give me your battletag, i'll add you.
Vic, by the way, your monk has been hibernating. It's time to revive him and get him back to work.
haha my monk still processing update cant out first, cos my inna chest n pant not suit me well just put AH they hehe..... focus barb wwt first very interesting for me.....
Hahaha... I think no APOC is okay. I have big problem to control a CM wiz. I got really headache to spam keys on the keyboard. The combination of keys are much more complicated than WW Barb. May be I am just not used to it.
Added on October 22, 2012, 4:30 pm I am working on improving my DPS/Armor/AR. It is difficult to find a replacement if i want to keep the same LOH/LS/Armor/AR, especially the weapon.
I have 50K DPS/1059AR/6455 armor now(unbuff). I see there is still room for improvement. I hope to get 60K DPS / 1100 AR / 7000 armor.
a dual wielding with that kind of armor.. and thats not using MOE hard target isnt it?...
i tried a different build sometime ago, im currently able to solo and tank up to MP5 with minimal deaths. in coop, if with good dps team it's fairly easy.
im a cylone tank monk. so i was able to benefit from my LoH coz i used to spam cylclone together with an aoe skill ~altho my LoH is not that high (1.2k) if higher dps i would go for life steal already. serenity is a life saver. and also 'keen eye'. i find surviving is more important than killing fast since im a tank. white mobs dont need keen eye, only elite encounters requires me to spam keen reach.
killed my dps for this build but it was worth it, heavy dpser love farming with me. killing is real quick because of the cyclone skill also.
hey guys, I found a cheapest way to counter Element resist with super high Life Regen. I managed to equiped with 4k life regen. Normally when someone have high AR, even their health will gradually reduce when standing in a pool of poison or fire, but with high regen, my Monk can counter the damages and sustain no damage at all. I saw my Monk can stand there without damages and hitting the elites with ease, lol.... You guys may consider this build, no jokes..., by the way I was farming Inferno +2 only, hence my DPS is still slow against +3 level. But this is the cheapest gear budget for me. Even if someone opt for LoH or LS, you still need to hit or kill monster to gain life, but I just need to kite 2-3 seconds if necessary only, imagine if I equip with LoH weapon as well
hey guys, I found a cheapest way to counter Element resist with super high Life Regen. I managed to equiped with 4k life regen. Normally when someone have high AR, even their health will gradually reduce when standing in a pool of poison or fire, but with high regen, my Monk can counter the damages and sustain no damage at all. I saw my Monk can stand there without damages and hitting the elites with ease, lol.... You guys may consider this build, no jokes..., by the way I was farming Inferno +2 only, hence my DPS is still slow against +3 level. But this is the cheapest gear budget for me. Even if someone opt for LoH or LS, you still need to hit or kill monster to gain life, but I just need to kite 2-3 seconds if necessary only, imagine if I equip with LoH weapon as well http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KiraKun-6169/hero/1040544
* I have swapped few gears and mantra for testing justnow, so it just shown approx, 3k life regen only.
Total Life regen: Gears = 3231 Mantra = 620 Templar = 158
Total = 4009
back then...in the ancient days....b4 patch 1.02... our all timer quazacolt got like what?..11K hp regen!!! its an old story...my fren....pls read top lyn max buff thread ...
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 22 2012, 11:53 PM
back then...in the ancient days....b4 patch 1.02... our all timer quazacolt got like what?..11K hp regen!!! its an old story...my fren....pls read top lyn max buff thread ...
hey guys, I found a cheapest way to counter Element resist with super high Life Regen. I managed to equiped with 4k life regen. Normally when someone have high AR, even their health will gradually reduce when standing in a pool of poison or fire, but with high regen, my Monk can counter the damages and sustain no damage at all. I saw my Monk can stand there without damages and hitting the elites with ease, lol.... You guys may consider this build, no jokes..., by the way I was farming Inferno +2 only, hence my DPS is still slow against +3 level. But this is the cheapest gear budget for me. Even if someone opt for LoH or LS, you still need to hit or kill monster to gain life, but I just need to kite 2-3 seconds if necessary only, imagine if I equip with LoH weapon as well http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KiraKun-6169/hero/1040544
* I have swapped few gears and mantra for testing justnow, so it just shown approx, 3k life regen only.
Total Life regen: Gears = 3231 Mantra = 620 Templar = 158
Total = 4009
Interesting. Test it, bro. Go test it at MP7 Ghom fight. Select "kill ghom" quest and tell us how it goes.
^^My barb was able to pick up a total of 4 (2x2) keys from each warden of Act 2 & Act 3 doing 2 runs in mp9 with 100% success, though it's not ezpz at all.
Note: Sorry, wrong thread ...hehehe.
This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 23 2012, 09:26 AM
^^My barb was able to pick up a total of 4 (2x2) keys from each warden of Act 2 & Act 3 doing 2 runs in mp9 with 100% success, though it's not ezpz at all.
Note: Sorry, wrong thread ...hehehe.
the frustrating part is silver spire keywarden are paired with 3 other elites pack (yes 3 pack making it a total of 4) and one of them are with illusionist+extra health. tanked like no tomorrow and didn't see the skylight
i dont hv LS skorn, but i do have a dex + vit skorn and manage to bump DPS to 100k just tried a short game and a gold elite give me this:
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y not add the int to str ....
i prefer to convert int to dex in this case. an effective 700 armor. You really need more armor to survive higher MP level. 5k armor with STI is low.
Added on October 23, 2012, 2:47 pm
QUOTE(CyborgR @ Oct 23 2012, 02:42 PM)
i have one question on monk serenity, instant karma anyone using it? it only reflect melee attack? any idea what are the dmg rate
50% of their attack deal to you. Basing on average 15k damage only meant 7k return, 7k is nothing in high mp level. I rather pick Ascension or Peaceful repose (since the time you use serenity means you low on hp need to run).
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 23 2012, 02:47 PM
Hard to replace those without sacrificing 129dex/288vit mainhand or the offhand IAS11% +95%CD offhand. Try tackle from the Witching hour slot.
Yeah u are right, That is my main problem both also cant
I try on the changing my belt but doesnt seem very effective.
I try change inna belt (high dex) but damage increase about 1-2k (using http://d3up.com/b/43557) only BUT it scarified my attack speed and crit damage.
I try to find witching hour with dex + 100dex also doesnt change much of my dps... I think change weapon is my only solution.
i prefer to convert int to dex in this case. an effective 700 armor. You really need more armor to survive higher MP level. 5k armor with STI is low.
Added on October 23, 2012, 2:47 pm 50% of their attack deal to you. Basing on average 15k damage only meant 7k return, 7k is nothing in high mp level. I rather pick Ascension or Peaceful repose (since the time you use serenity means you low on hp need to run).
thanks bro i will pass using it. just wondering would it be advantage when i around with poison/arcane/fire, and activated it, coz its quite pain lol. wonder if the reflect can slap them back a little.
Yeah u are right, That is my main problem both also cant
I try on the changing my belt but doesnt seem very effective.
I try change inna belt (high dex) but damage increase about 1-2k (using http://d3up.com/b/43557) only BUT it scarified my attack speed and crit damage.
I try to find witching hour with dex + 100dex also doesnt change much of my dps... I think change weapon is my only solution.
That is my problem i facing now.
directly its on ur weapon bro....700dps?...duh should be looking >850 with same affixes...
@M2K2Land, tonite if got play, advise my monk build ya...
got some old items in stash, donno can use to improve my monk or not...
LOH now 1.4K... enuff??? poor dps still poor...
I try 1.5k Loh (i dont have LS) AS 2.0+ (buff with enchantress) amour 6k+ (buff wiht MoE + enchantress) resistance 700+
Cukup no need run at ghom mp5. I try my LoH at Gohm Lol coz his fart is smelly~ If you can survive meaning should be ok for tankable ba, I not sure this theory work or not coz i normally do this way.
Anyone have try work with won khim low (fist) additional 25% additional lightning skills with skill additional dmg?
There are some of our fellow LYN monks use WKL as offhand due to the fact that it has comparatively lower damage. With FoT+thunderfist rune it is quite nice.
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breached 80K+ unbuffed DPS with a shield..thx to lau pan 100M ring....still aiming a withing hour and ice climber to compensate using lacuni and unnecessary movespeed from current boots...
dual wield?..already pass the 110K dps...but meh LOH 900 + LS 2.3 ...only not sedap....put aside for a while now...
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 24 2012, 10:13 AM
yesterday thanks to M2K2Land, guide my pity monk...
but still can't solo Ghom... atk spd too low...
dps, armor, hp, ar all low...
saying this...item in AH is flooded nowadays with quite a good rares....and the price still quite high..but its look like its going in the downturn...the price are declining by days...but its just from my observation on my selling though..
maybe its just me ....i think ppl are really picky nowadays and most of them really aiming to buy either legendary or set item....with good stats of course
either u farm more or wait patiently for the price to drop bro..
p/s: this few recent weeks... i usually sell item with a very low bid/no bout starting 1M......even on set item (even that thing can sell >40M!)...cuz all the same item are flooding the AH and ppl are cutting down their price to make a sell..and i need the money fast also..
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 24 2012, 10:26 AM
saying this...item in AH is flooded nowadays with quite a good rares....and the price still quite high..but its look like its going in the downturn...the price are declining by days...but its just from my observation on my selling though..
maybe its just me ....i think ppl are really picky nowadays and most of them really aiming to buy either legendary or set item....with good stats of course
either u farm more or wait patiently for the price to drop bro..
p/s: this few recent weeks... i usually sell item with a very low bid/no bout starting 1M......even on set item (even that thing can sell >40M!)...cuz all the same item are flooding the AH and ppl are cutting down their price to make a sell..and i need the money fast also..
i think i farm better... low gold now...
all loots cant sell... so keeping them in stash or salvage them now...
yesterday thanks to M2K2Land, guide my pity monk...
but still can't solo Ghom... atk spd too low...
dps, armor, hp, ar all low...
QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 24 2012, 10:35 AM)
i think i farm better... low gold now...
all loots cant sell... so keeping them in stash or salvage them now...
Yeah but overall your monk is doing great just matter of times. Compare the times I play, I die much more times... We tested mp5 yesterday you are doing OK, but take times to kill elite.
wa im close.. just need more AR, my LoH at 1.2k but running only star gem only.. still can increase
Yulia, you did very well tanking the Siegebreaker in the uber boss fight.
I see your profile and find you have a little weird skill setup. You use 2 primary skills. And you don't use passive skill, Combination Strike.
I wonder which is the primary skill you use most? IMO, you can stick to one primary skill. And replace another one with sweeping wind/blade storm, breath of heaven/blazing wrath, or wave of light.
Yulia, you did very well tanking the Siegebreaker in the uber boss fight.
I see your profile and find you have a little weird skill setup. You use 2 primary skills. And you don't use passive skill, Combination Strike.
I wonder which is the primary skill you use most? IMO, you can stick to one primary skill. And replace another one with sweeping wind/blade storm, breath of heaven/blazing wrath, or wave of light.
hahah thanks it was really a good run.
i had sweeping wind with one primary skill build earlier but i tend to die often in insane elite encounters, because of my habit i tend to pull all mobs into me while tanking it's quite painful since my LoH is only at 1.2k+- i love crippling wave for the aoe dmg, but i stil couldn't facetank bosses/elite alone with that skill even with the LoH. so in such situation i spam deadly reach (keen eye) every 4seconds to buff up my armor by another 50%, dps again and repeat probably i dont really use that frequently i ought the passive does not really come into the picture, since i hve only about 35k life ~.~ will try that passive n see if it's good anyway i been wanting to kill off this skill but have to wait for more dps upgrade maybe? or add in some awesome lifesteal fist.
This post has been edited by paranoid: Oct 24 2012, 11:11 AM
i had sweeping wind with one primary skill build earlier but i tend to die often in insane elite encounters, because of my habit i tend to pull all mobs into me while tanking it's quite painful since my LoH is only at 1.2k+- i love crippling wave for the aoe dmg, but i stil couldn't facetank bosses/elite alone with that skill even with the LoH. so in such situation i spam deadly reach (keen eye) every 4seconds to buff up my armor by another 50%, dps again and repeat probably i dont really use that frequently i ought the passive does not really come into the picture, since i hve only about 35k life ~.~ will try that passive n see if it's good anyway i been wanting to kill off this skill but have to wait for more dps upgrade maybe? or add in some awesome lifesteal fist.
Yulia slowly build ur gear, u r really tank well i was saw u any possible u was atk, anyway as long wht u get yesterday nite, so v roll again....
There are some of our fellow LYN monks use WKL as offhand due to the fact that it has comparatively lower damage. With FoT+thunderfist rune it is quite nice.
i see.. try to find on net , almost every DPS calculated straight.. didn't find any skill additional dmg info. try to make WKL 25% work with skull grasp +10% FoT +helm 14% FoT and maybe if got lot off money + SoJ 12% = almost 60% additional dmg on FoT.. huhuu
i see.. try to find on net , almost every DPS calculated straight.. didn't find any skill additional dmg info. try to make WKL 25% work with skull grasp +10% FoT +helm 14% FoT and maybe if got lot off money + SoJ 12% = almost 60% additional dmg on FoT.. huhuu
use d3reihner calc like that name..i forgot the full name..
anyway...ya i would like to see the dmg add-up from passive like MOC....MOC-Overawe like that....
but until now i cant find calc thats counts that into DPS..
sorry another noob question here. with the one with everything passive. lets say if i am stacking up my cold resist, if one the gear with 50 AR and 50 CR - does that make it up to 100 AR?
ok nvm XD i just check my stash got one ring with such feature. yes it does ;D awesome. rebuild
This post has been edited by CyborgR: Oct 24 2012, 03:28 PM
sorry another noob question here. with the one with everything passive. lets say if i am stacking up my cold resist, if one the gear with 50 AR and 50 CR - does that make it up to 100 AR?
ok nvm XD i just check my stash got one ring with such feature. yes it does ;D awesome. rebuild
yes cold + AR + OWE (passive) = all resist~ I am using this now~!!! nice skill for those poor ppl to stack~
yes cold + AR + OWE (passive) = all resist~ I am using this now~!!! nice skill for those poor ppl to stack~
couldnt agree more, just realize these coz all the while didnt use owe. with my belt ,chest n shoulder with AR + CR will try to seek the boots n the rest
This post has been edited by CyborgR: Oct 24 2012, 04:34 PM
A variety of choice. Some times I take fleet foot, lately been loving the six sense's high dodge chance. My effective dodge with MoE buff is now 6x%
Added on October 24, 2012, 4:09 pmI now feel like Matrix's Neo
Ooo...you not 24% MS meh? I dun need fleet footed as I got 24% liao. Guardian Path not gooding? 15% dodge? To be honest, I really dont like dodge...so many things cannot dodge wei... arcane, molten, plague..yada yada....I just want somethng useful..and combo strike is really octopus hand use nia...
So you MoE hard target to replace your STI? I cant gip up my overraw wei....cause my DPS low at 40k when in pala mode... I rememebr yesterday I tank Siege/Kulle at MP7, wahsei..my mates go kill Kulle while I drag the fatty away ....after they kill Kulle ..Siege had like 90% health left ahahahaahahaha...
Added on October 24, 2012, 4:38 pm
QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 24 2012, 04:07 PM)
I lol at ur comment... yes i agreed pariah passive for monk...
STI & OWE for me is must.
Guardian Path/Combine strike/Resolve - Depend on Situation(s0lo or team)/Mantra I use.
Guardian path for you cause 2 hand ma... I pala tank so GP useless. I hope next patch Blizz will give a good offensive passive to monk like DH (Archery), barb (Boon)..cobo strike is just too complicated for me ....tekan 1,2, 3 whack..most of the time I tekan 1, 2 ....not enough spirit........!!!! Ptuiii
This post has been edited by gladfly: Oct 24 2012, 04:38 PM
Ooo...you not 24% MS meh? I dun need fleet footed as I got 24% liao. Guardian Path not gooding? 15% dodge? To be honest, I really dont like dodge...so many things cannot dodge wei... arcane, molten, plague..yada yada....I just want somethng useful..and combo strike is really octopus hand use nia...
So you MoE hard target to replace your STI? I cant gip up my overraw wei....cause my DPS low at 40k when in pala mode... I rememebr yesterday I tank Siege/Kulle at MP7, wahsei..my mates go kill Kulle while I drag the fatty away ....after they kill Kulle ..Siege had like 90% health left ahahahaahahaha...
Added on October 24, 2012, 4:38 pm
Guardian path for you cause 2 hand ma... I pala tank so GP useless. I hope next patch Blizz will give a good offensive passive to monk like DH (Archery), barb (Boon)..cobo strike is just too complicated for me ....tekan 1,2, 3 whack..most of the time I tekan 1, 2 ....not enough spirit........!!!! Ptuiii
Bro, check combination strike. Open your inventory see ur dps, hit a mob and see ur dps again using thunderclap only. I dont think u need 2 different skill.
You cant consider resolved/guardian path (passive) if you go for mp5. Its help. What is ur crit chance? you can try sweeping wind - blade storm if you have less than 35% CC.
You cant consider resolved/guardian path (passive) if you go for mp5. Its help. What is ur crit chance? you can try sweeping wind - blade storm if you have less than 35% CC.
Critical Hit Chance 20.5% Critical Hit Damage 312%
As long as the hellring gives you +DPS, it's good. Many people crafted hellrings with a drop in DPS.
i got 3 ring ready to make....but meh i wont make it!..seems like wasted...i just waiting for bliz to buff it..cuz so many complain about it nowadays....so was hoping maybe bliz will take action on that..either way it wont be a lost to me anyway....i got 1 ring to use..err nope..not me.but my enchantress...
This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 24 2012, 05:01 PM
Ooo...you not 24% MS meh? I dun need fleet footed as I got 24% liao. Guardian Path not gooding? 15% dodge? To be honest, I really dont like dodge...so many things cannot dodge wei... arcane, molten, plague..yada yada....I just want somethng useful..and combo strike is really octopus hand use nia...
So you MoE hard target to replace your STI? I cant gip up my overraw wei....cause my DPS low at 40k when in pala mode... I rememebr yesterday I tank Siege/Kulle at MP7, wahsei..my mates go kill Kulle while I drag the fatty away ....after they kill Kulle ..Siege had like 90% health left ahahahaahahaha...
Still looking for a boot with pickup radius, 12%MS, AR+Phy, Dex, Vit, Armor (or Str since they are the same). Oh wait more than 6 stats so I won't find one. So pickup radius must go somewhere else to compensate this. With my 2k LoH+5.5%LS, plague + 2 disscretator no need to move. arcane as long as not stand at heart leave it. molton is somewhere a problem when I chase them, so just walk aside. I take MoE for the dodge, and of course higher Mp levels stick with Hard target instead of backlash (using BL in MP3)
There are some of our fellow LYN monks use WKL as offhand due to the fact that it has comparatively lower damage. With FoT+thunderfist rune it is quite nice.
used it as main for a while.
now as offhand as i got a >900 dps mainhand with LS
Added on October 24, 2012, 6:34 pm
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 24 2012, 03:36 PM)
I wonder how many monks are not using OwE. I wish one day I can drop this passive. Now already dropped STI.
haha cant seem to find a better passive, so im still with OwE/StI and resolve (both sti/resolve which are nerfed lolz)
Added on October 24, 2012, 6:37 pm
QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 24 2012, 04:02 PM)
Summerfist..you drop STI opt for what passive. I also thinking of dropping STI but dunno what..cause the rest is pariah..
Added on October 24, 2012, 6:37 pm
QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 24 2012, 04:35 PM)
Ooo...you not 24% MS meh? I dun need fleet footed as I got 24% liao. Guardian Path not gooding? 15% dodge? To be honest, I really dont like dodge...so many things cannot dodge wei... arcane, molten, plague..yada yada....I just want somethng useful..and combo strike is really octopus hand use nia... Added on October 24, 2012, 4:38 pm
Guardian path for you cause 2 hand ma... I pala tank so GP useless. I hope next patch Blizz will give a good offensive passive to monk like DH (Archery), barb (Boon)..cobo strike is just too complicated for me ....tekan 1,2, 3 whack..most of the time I tekan 1, 2 ....not enough spirit........!!!! Ptuiii
This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 24 2012, 06:37 PM
After neft can play mp10 liao Lol but very painful... 30mins for 1 key~
LOL I saw all the "Aid me", "My will falters", "I will be back", indeed a tough fight bro. Anyway can anyone here suggest my survivability because I can't fight creeps with molten + shielding +firechain combo in MP7. I can still kill them in MP 5-6 but have to skip these mobs (3 affixes together). My Monk now still lack of vit as my hp only 31k. My future upgrades will be getting a dex/vit hellfire ring, change to a better 1 hander. With buff I can do around 99k dmg(blind + overawe). Appreciate any positive comments and is there any LYN members do the Hellfire ring run? I'm gathering 3 sets of keys.
LOL I saw all the "Aid me", "My will falters", "I will be back", indeed a tough fight bro. Anyway can anyone here suggest my survivability because I can't fight creeps with molten + shielding +firechain combo in MP7. I can still kill them in MP 5-6 but have to skip these mobs (3 affixes together). My Monk now still lack of vit as my hp only 31k. My future upgrades will be getting a dex/vit hellfire ring, change to a better 1 hander. With buff I can do around 99k dmg(blind + overawe). Appreciate any positive comments and is there any LYN members do the Hellfire ring run? I'm gathering 3 sets of keys.
For fighting molten, fire chain the important is LoH/LS. At least 1.9k is good for tanking. You cant try to remove ur emerald at ur weapon and put Amethyst then you can see the different. Attack speed is also important, make it at least 2 for those creatures
tried the uber bosses the first time on mp3 and 4 players. lol over 44 mil hp leoric and 37 mil hp maghda. was pretty fun doing clutch rezes all around XD
Added on October 25, 2012, 3:33 pm That's very fast. It took me 15min to kill it.
I use becon passive reduce the coll down for Flash.
Sweeping wind with tornado + healing + 15% damage (100k) + Flash for 3 second is about 180k dps per second.
I think might also due to attack speed and CC & CD too. I guess.
I got 40 CC + 440+ CD + 2.5 AS (I guess is double up my killing time) maybe huh?
Hopefully I able to buy higher DPS (900-1k) but didnt reduce my previous VIT,DEX and LoH while searching for mostly 2weeks but found non or just overprice 150mil >
Added on October 25, 2012, 3:33 pm That's very fast. It took me 15min to kill it.
lol...had to do it...coz the value of gold is depreciating and i couldnt find a suitable replacement for my gloves yet up until now vile ward gives good armor and base stats so i guess its worth the investment~
omg omg if this what i think it is? WITCHING HOUR!!??
Added on October 26, 2012, 7:04 pmFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
Y U ALWAYS NO DEXXX!!!!
im cursed with Barb items..dafukkk
Added on October 26, 2012, 8:01 pmgot myself a new Skorn with Dex and LS, 50M buyout, its consider really cheap IMO. Need to adjust play style a bit since I don't get that burst healing from Sever already.
1 shot elites with it haha
Next Upgrade: Lacunis Bracer with CC Gloves with Bifecta AS/CC
This post has been edited by waklu: Oct 26 2012, 08:01 PM
Dear all monk member, im confuse of my character which i need LOH and socket for my offhand, yet my hp is superb low, i really got no idea whats the best weapon for my offhand, can u guys suggest for me? here's my detail.
Dear all monk member, im confuse of my character which i need LOH and socket for my offhand, yet my hp is superb low, i really got no idea whats the best weapon for my offhand, can u guys suggest for me? here's my detail.
Yes 6xx VIT is indeed kinda low. Unless you get bigger Amethyst, the only way is to try to sacrifice your bracer's dex for a 200+VIT roll bracer (and can upgrade to 6%CC).
[quote=rekuken,Oct 27 2012, 03:19 PM] Are u selling that ? I'm interested. How much are u letting ?
[/quote Wah full inna set worthty New owner lol
I don't know the price that's why ask for.price check.ah dint have closest I find is higher dps but 371 loh and that was offered.for 70m crazy price leh
Quite expensive , can be bargain ? I selling few item and will get my gold ASAP , u rushing sell it off ? Lets talk for this ... U can add me but today going to shopping n won't be online till night ... My inna ? I just bought the whole set not even 100m
lol..why would a 100k DPS monk wants a 900dps weapon is beyond me..
but its kinda tempting 30M offer....did you miss a zero at the back or wat?
I need Loh and it's lightning base damage, the weapon provide lightning so some my skill have lightning damage... 30m quite good offer lol u can sell to him ...
lol..why would a 100k DPS monk wants a 900dps weapon is beyond me..
but its kinda tempting 30M offer....did you miss a zero at the back or wat?
an almost maxed out roll WKL (socket, LS etc) was on 200-300mil
it scales ones' damage a lot by % based. not so much at low dps, however % based at high dps is always good do also take note that WKL benefits doesnt directly add into your character screen. only the 6% lightning dmg and whatever it rolled (socket 100% crit dmg etc)
ITs not mine, i try to bid as well.. but, no answer from the owner yet till now.. i assume he sell it off..
Added on October 28, 2012, 9:43 am is that weapon sold?
Sorry guys for the late reply..was out last nite..
Sold to someone for 50M. I guess the person who bought it is flipping it...its up in AH starting bid 60M..lol...GL to him though
I guess its the +6% to base damage and the +20% sweeping wind cyclone is good..thats what he said..oh well its gone and hope I get another drop like that again...or a damn witching hour with dex..
Sorry guys for the late reply..was out last nite..
Sold to someone for 50M. I guess the person who bought it is flipping it...its up in AH starting bid 60M..lol...GL to him though
I guess its the +6% to base damage and the +20% sweeping wind cyclone is good..thats what he said..oh well its gone and hope I get another drop like that again...or a damn witching hour with dex..
i saw it on AH last night for 60m with no buyout lolx
i wonder if its just me, i know the thunderclap are good but i cannot use it at all, the sudden porting screen like flickering everytime i port is making me dizzy lol. using deadly reach foresight instead
hi sifus, i am using 920 dps fist with 900loh and a socket currently... would like to invest on shenlong fist, i think i only can afford for a 850dps shenlong fist with 170 dex, 900loh and socket. will the 850dps shenlong increase my dps?
hi sifus, i am using 920 dps fist with 900loh and a socket currently... would like to invest on shenlong fist, i think i only can afford for a 850dps shenlong fist with 170 dex, 900loh and socket. will the 850dps shenlong increase my dps?
maybe ur build more offensive, my build is a bit defensive. eh but ur LoH not bad lei
Added on October 29, 2012, 10:45 ami can tahan arcane but not like 3-4 arcane at once. desecrator i sure avoid also.. ur monk should be better than mine leh
This post has been edited by paranoid: Oct 29 2012, 10:45 AM
If not the rojak resists, you can do better. Next aim MP8?
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Added on October 29, 2012, 10:45 ami can tahan arcane but not like 3-4 arcane at once. desecrator i sure avoid also.. ur monk should be better than mine leh
Lol, I can tahan 3 diss @ MP5 but see arcane faster run. Die quite alot at the heart of arcane.
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Oct 29 2012, 10:47 AM
maybe ur build more offensive, my build is a bit defensive. eh but ur LoH not bad lei
Added on October 29, 2012, 10:45 ami can tahan arcane but not like 3-4 arcane at once. desecrator i sure avoid also.. ur monk should be better than mine leh
oh ya i died alot i change all my gear to fix my AR. then only concentrate IAS+DEX
my helm, ammy, bracer n rings still very noob. arcane as long as i dont stand on the pivot point, can tahan.. i also tipu wan.. when arcane come close i spam deadly reach skill (keen eye rune) so not that pain..
7ss is a must have for me also.. can use to escape if locked by mobs, and when u cast 7ss, u're invisible to damage. i rotate 7ss and serenity when im in a pinch.
This post has been edited by paranoid: Oct 29 2012, 10:51 AM
seriously... or maybe i not really know how to run...
tot monk standstill tank... so try MP1...
kena fireground, arcane, the freeze... die...
you know, you have about 20k hp more than i do, and probably more armor/resist, and even using MOE hard target.
i am doing mp5.
if you're having higher defensive stats and/or higher LS/LoH then sure, face tank everything. if not, be creative (actually more like use common sense lol) and avoid danger. sitting in fire or arcane is NOT the way the game is meant to be played. people only do that because they are OVERGEARED for that content
oh ya i died alot i change all my gear to fix my AR. then only concentrate IAS+DEX
my helm, ammy, bracer n rings still very noob. arcane as long as i dont stand on the pivot point, can tahan.. i also tipu wan.. when arcane come close i spam deadly reach skill (keen eye rune) so not that pain..
7ss is a must have for me also.. can use to escape if locked by mobs, and when u cast 7ss, u're invisible to damage. i rotate 7ss and serenity when im in a pinch.
If you play co-op, you can use MoH/Time of Need + Guiding light combo. It's very good in both offensive (16% additional damage) and defensive (AR bonus).
As you use 2 primary skills, combination strike could be your best passive skill. You must be busy spamming your deadly reach.
guys/girls, how much do u think i need to invest (in gold) to upgrade my monk? to decent state, not godly state..
Added on October 29, 2012, 10:59 am
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 29 2012, 10:56 AM)
If you play co-op, you can use MoH/Time of Need + Guiding light combo. It's very good in both offensive (16% additional damage) and defensive (AR bonus).
As you use 2 primary skills, combination strike could be your best passive skill. You must be busy spamming your deadly reach.
yeap i took that advice of urs, i changed my passive to combination strike.. not sure if that is the cause i died on SB ytd or it's with the lag issue. desperately need to upgrade my monk
This post has been edited by paranoid: Oct 29 2012, 10:59 AM
you know, you have about 20k hp more than i do, and probably more armor/resist, and even using MOE hard target.
i am doing mp5.
if you're having higher defensive stats and/or higher LS/LoH then sure, face tank everything. if not, be creative (actually more like use common sense lol) and avoid danger. sitting in fire or arcane is NOT the way the game is meant to be played. people only do that because they are OVERGEARED for that content
Maybe i not familiar with FoT... it will teleport to the mobs... so i bit hard to control... Last time i used DR... for Armor boost...
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 29 2012, 10:55 AM)
woot, lvl all 5 char too? my wiz so OP with inferno gear @ NM levels.
Henry, either you can go like ALeUNe's high AR (if got 500AR itself (not single resist) can drop OwE) or like me go high armor and drop STI.
guys/girls, how much do u think i need to invest (in gold) to upgrade my monk? to decent state, not godly state..
Added on October 29, 2012, 10:59 am yeap i took that advice of urs, i changed my passive to combination strike.. not sure if that is the cause i died on SB ytd or it's with the lag issue. desperately need to upgrade my monk
We have many categories of gears now.
Top tier gears (MP8 and above) that can cost you hundred millions to billions D3 gold.
Second tier gears (MP5-MP7), they are VERY cheap now. I got a pair of pants for my WD at 600K+ gold (won it through bidding). I upgraded many gears for all my chars last week. I disposed many of my old gears at AH, they were sold for 20K-188K D3 gold. Those gears were good enough for me to play MP7. So, you just need to shop at AH. Happy shopping!!
my monk lacks dps and a bit more defence to be able to go mp8-mp9 comfortably. that is somewhere i want my monk to achieve.
probably spending like up to 300-400mill is understandable. by godly i mean i dont hope to upgrade a piece of gear which cost 300mill each.
mp8 and above by most (including mine) are considered godly. in fact, any activity in inferno with mp levels aren't your standard/casual (or even "decent") playing levels.
300-400mil is definitely not casual/decent and is easily categorized as godly if that helps.
in fact i dont think i ever accumulated more than 30mil gold and my entire spending on my monk (not including diminishing values/inflation) are probably less than 40mil.
hi, i need some tips. what thing i can upgrade. budget around 400k gold
focus upgrade on either your shoulders/belt/chest
consider upgrading main hand too as it is rather slow and it does not have socket. not to mention your dps is a lil low to benefit from 2.2 LS, LoH (or a combination of LoH + LS) would be better
that depends on which route you wanna go. Inna set are packed with more features (CC/ASI/MS) but sometimes also limits the other stats. Most of the Inna are with very little random magic properties (+1 & +2 only). To get Inna with AR+resist is very rare and it would cost atomic bomb. It all boils down to the way you want your balance build.
consider upgrading main hand too as it is rather slow and it does not have socket. not to mention your dps is a lil low to benefit from 2.2 LS, LoH (or a combination of LoH + LS) would be better
my aim is a tanking monk with good dps. i can see many monks with high dps but they are as fragile as any other DH/Wiz when it comes to high MP elites. those are dps monks which dont tank all all. i want my monk to be able to tank first, and then dps it up as high as it can be.
my aim is a tanking monk with good dps. i can see many monks with high dps but they are as fragile as any other DH/Wiz when it comes to high MP elites. those are dps monks which dont tank all all. i want my monk to be able to tank first, and then dps it up as high as it can be.
my aim is a tanking monk with good dps. i can see many monks with high dps but they are as fragile as any other DH/Wiz when it comes to high MP elites. those are dps monks which dont tank all all. i want my monk to be able to tank first, and then dps it up as high as it can be.
True but too be tank in mp7 > you need
5000+ amor 700+ resistance LS/LH 3%+ or 1500+ AS 2+ HP 30k++
I experience and this is my best tanking attribute in Mp7 (no need to run around with ghom)
Oct 11 2012, 02:28 PM, updated 13y ago
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may be people that have tested it before can share their experience.
With 3m EHP, you will be ranked No.100 in the world. 
this is not fair compare to Immortal King set which many has mandatory all resist...
I cant afford all AR I am Arcane stack also~
" mp7 beliar 1 green boom i died 
) then pickup it become tal rasha 
not bad for my first hellfire ring altho could be better.
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