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 Monk Discussion V3, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!

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sangtupperware
post Oct 12 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 12 2012, 02:48 PM)
i agree what is mentioned up there about barbs, ww barbs doesnt tank. all they do is spin around everywhere.  that build only benefit himself/herself in coop games. it's not much of difference for them to solo or go in co-op games actually. only thing good u can get is the warcry. in most games they are always rushing and move to new pack, they dont care and bother if the mobs are cleared or not.
it's a good build to level fast, not a good build to play and actually help in coop games.
although there are actually good ww barbs also i've met, other than that mostly disappointing.
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this!!!....b4 patch 1.04 they are quite useful bcuz they lead patiently for others to follow....

but after they were buffed up...all end up doing WW barb..and heck most of the time they were annoying....left team mate behind...jump into the middle of fray..forget us the ranges char at back...just to WW in the middle..while creep at the end...swarmed us at the edges....

and most of the time...the powerful ones clear the map for themselves ....and we are sometimes confused whether the a side of a map has been cleared or not..thus wasting our time just to checkout....cuz affraid we might left behind a lagendary

all of this make them just not suitable to become a tank anymore...and mostly this happened in public games..

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 12 2012, 03:25 PM
sangtupperware
post Oct 12 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 12 2012, 02:58 PM)
Ya, DH really like a paper. Justnow play in public with a monk (wear shield). We fight Azmodan together. After Azmodan half life, it cast black water. The monk running away for the black water but I still stand in front of Azmodan and finish it before monk come back. Tanker = only standing there and hit.
Haha.
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and the monk equipment is same value standard as urs i might say?...my monk with shield can tank azmodan in public...

heck even my DH..with gloom not so superior as u equipment can tank azmodan in public...just need allress 700++ LOH bow 400 LS 2.8....got to say DH gloom is very powerful tool indeed ...

my DH equipment?...copy paste my monk equipment lol..

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 12 2012, 03:07 PM
sangtupperware
post Oct 12 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 12 2012, 04:50 PM)
Wow, went out 3h and now monk tered spammed by various frens, I saw barb n dh coming to say hi wave.gif
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we have been attacked!!!.... main ur battlestation!!..doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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sangtupperware
post Oct 12 2012, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 12 2012, 05:23 PM)
It is a fact. Not a belief.  tongue.gif

Beside the healing skills, no class of heroes can stay invincible + invisible for 4 seconds.


Added on October 12, 2012, 5:27 pm
Yes and no.

Yes, with high HP and armor + so much improved gears (i.e. LOH/LS gears, Skorn, Vile Ward, Ice Climbers etc etc) in patch 104.
No, in pre-patch 104.
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that will be 8 sec?...7ss + serenity?
sangtupperware
post Oct 12 2012, 07:17 PM

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i think now we could combine the monk+barb thread instead...

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sangtupperware
post Oct 13 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Oct 13 2012, 04:31 PM)
why does leoric signet cost so much?
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ull noticed the importance of that ring..even though the stats sucks...when u reach lvl80 above my fren..

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post Oct 16 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 16 2012, 01:54 PM)
i will farm at MP4/5 only... sad.gif
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mp 5 is like usual inferno right?....since ur a dps build...i think u should go at least 6-8...

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post Oct 16 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 16 2012, 02:03 PM)
i dont think dps/tank or whatever build matters. in the end you still gotta have it balanced out as not only hp is increased, damage too
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then again..ur right..at that

i was assuming that his build got the required def to survive MP6-8 while having a good DPS..

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post Oct 16 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 16 2012, 02:19 PM)
MP2/3 is the 1.04 inferno. my build dont have high LoH/LS (only 3% LS) so, from my testing, farming is not very efficient in MP6/7. the LS i got is not enough to sustain the damage i am taking.

MP4/5 is just right for me. i can farm quite fast.

however, things are different in party. we should be able to do MP6/7 in party with multiple buff.
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woh MP3 is like inferno...so my bad then...i really though MP5 is like inferno... cry.gif cry.gif... i heard wrong..
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post Oct 16 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 16 2012, 04:38 PM)
lucky i never drop my resistance of 800 for the sake of dps
huhue~
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mine dropping to 750++ cuz of leoric singnet... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif ....just a little more....baby..

after 1.05 beacon of ytar will be 20% reduced cooldown for skill....huhu definitely gonna use that......

now using sixth senses + fleet footed + Sti...

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post Oct 16 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 16 2012, 05:29 PM)
Wow... you not using OWE?? sure? Lol
Sure thing~ thumbup.gif
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nope?..why?..and if i do...i can get 900 allress after all...im arcane based monk...


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post Oct 16 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 16 2012, 05:43 PM)
No I just curious a monk not using OWE and use fleet foot...  thumbup.gif
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the item build i take from DH..at that time post 1.03 ppl talk about DPS DPS DPS....i think that time no cant DPS so much ..must balanced it with survival....when DH back in the early days focus on kaw kaw DPS...i instead focus on balanced...

ending up with a 700 allress 100K DPS DH at time farming act 4....till kill diablo with ease..when others keep dying....that was post 1.03

then just put the idea into this monk....i have one free slots because of this..where i can put fleetfooted..beacon of ytar ...transendeces or what ever i wishes..i felt it really paid off..

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post Oct 16 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 16 2012, 05:50 PM)
Wah then must be very expensive stuff~  notworthy.gif I cant afford all AR I am Arcane stack also~
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not like urs... doh.gif doh.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif .....
sangtupperware
post Oct 16 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Oct 16 2012, 08:35 PM)
i didnt use OWE also. i used to have AR 700+ before.
but in 4 ppl coop, elite's fire/arcane made AR 700+ and AR 400+ no different, can't stand in there to fight also, maybe different is only a second to die?
so i switched to fleet foot / beacon of ytar / combination strike / guiding light long time ago.
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that seconds counts...actually i quite observed the dmg done to a high AR vs low AR when descretor took place....how?..i use to have a glass cannon dh equipment...+ plus high AR onces...

i think if u got around 800++ AR ...u can sit around 2-3 second in decretor....compare when u have low AR..which my glass cannon DH was around 300 AR....1-2 sec die straight...

and thats not even counting LOH and LS...if u got that...with high AR u can sit in it a lot longer....3-4 second no kidding..even tank it...sometimes..

my point is...the HP drops slowly with high AR compare to low AR..HP drops so fast ....ur too late to step out of it....




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post Oct 16 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 16 2012, 09:20 PM)
With buff (WC+Mantra), my Monk has 1810 AR.
My monk still died.  tongue.gif

My monk died because of carelessness most of the times.
i.e. walk into arcane. Land on an arcane. Stunt & doped & surrounded & hit by 5-6 mobs at the same time.

However, you can tell big difference on the survivability.
As sangtupperware mentioned, the HP doesn't drain fast if you have high AR.
You can feel your character is more solid & "tankable".
Besides, AR alone is not enough, you need it combo with LOH/LS for life recovery if you wanna tank.
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this!

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post Oct 21 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 20 2012, 06:42 PM)
Why you so lucky one? I never found any Inna's gears before.
Luck is just not on my side.  doh.gif

P/S To get an Inna's gear is already lucky.
To get an Inna's with high AR is very very very lucky.
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got one inna's vase expenses last night.....was so happy ...cuz now can complete 3 sets of that inna's.....but before id'ing was hoping for at least 40 AR affixes...

suddenly after id'ed....got 14 AR!!!...id say wafaak!!?...don give at all better la....mourning to myself..

out of anger just put it in GAH for 40M....i wonder if ppl ever wanna buy it..... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

p/s: breached the 73K unbuffed DPS mark with a shield...aiming for a witching hour belt just to breach 83K unbuffed DPS mark..

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post Oct 22 2012, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 22 2012, 09:55 AM)
i can tank ghom and siegebreaker on a 4 party game on MP8 after changing my weapon gems to purple. ezpz
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and how many DPS would that cost u?...

after days of playing inferno machine..i noticed that DPS is the second concern...first is survivability....
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post Oct 22 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 22 2012, 10:52 AM)
2 reasons.
1) With the nerf in patch 105, generally we need WC + MoH. So, Monk is very important in patch 105 (i.e. tank uber boss, Siegebreaker & Ghom while other players attack another boss). Every team player feels so easy if there is a tanker monk.
2) I can't keep playing monk in co-op game. I need another tanker monk so that I can play other chars (Barb/DH/WD/WZ). Of course, it is cool to have 2 monks in a 4-player co-op.

By the way, I do not use Transcendence as my passive skill.
I replace it with Guiding Light combo with MoH/Time of Need for additional damage & defence.
16% additional damage to all members + AR bonus + negligible shield & healing.
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i saw ur barb and WD quite powerful... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif .....

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post Oct 22 2012, 11:04 AM

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sorry i edited my post to your WD already..
..and i though wiz equipment is quite cheap... doh.gif doh.gif

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post Oct 22 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 22 2012, 11:12 AM)
Yup, 30mil for single resist chest/pant and 100mil for AR for inna. veli pain to buy.
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bro i just put an inna's cloth for a... i forget about 1M or 5M bid...try go bid for it...i just put low prize bcuz there's no AR in it..and i need the money pool fast..

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