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 Monk Discussion V3, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!

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qicquser
post Dec 4 2012, 05:10 PM

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Try to build away from OwE, you get more freedom in choosing passives. I've been avoiding build that point towards OwE when bliz make a hint that they will do something to OwE. Certainly they are not talking about buffing a skill which is now still a MUST have passives for monks.
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 05:10 PM)
Try to build away from OwE, you get more freedom in choosing passives. I've been avoiding build that point towards OwE when bliz make a hint that they will do something to OwE. Certainly they are not talking about buffing a skill which is now still a MUST have passives for monks.
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i was anti OWE from the start of the game..... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif the reason i was still bound with OWE last time..bcuz just to try upping my duel wield dps till 130K DPS with a not so good MH n OF weapon...also to put in some vit....to prolong its survivability...

my dual wield still have to use OWE (700 AR)....but my true born 110K dps sword shield build is still free from it.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Dec 4 2012, 05:19 PM
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 4 2012, 05:18 PM)
i was anti OWE from the start of the game..... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  the reason i was still bound with OWE last time..bcuz just to try upping my duel wield dps till 130K DPS with a not so good MH n OF weapon...also to put in some vit....to prolong its survivability...

my dual wield still have to use OWE (700 AR)....but my true born 110K dps sword shield build is still free from it.... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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for late starters, like me, to change to no OwE is kinda hard since AR eqs are so freaking expensive. Unless you found that AR goodies as loots, then its gonna cost you hundreds of millions to upgrade to AR eqs

If and only if blizztard change/modified OwE to something else..might as well quite or roll another melee class..
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 4 2012, 05:18 PM)
i was anti OWE from the start of the game..... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  the reason i was still bound with OWE last time..bcuz just to try upping my duel wield dps till 130K DPS with a not so good MH n OF weapon...also to put in some vit....to prolong its survivability...

my dual wield still have to use OWE (700 AR)....but my true born 110K dps sword shield build is still free from it.... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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I actually found your post to be very useful. I think i shall focus on this to prepare for the eventuality of OWE being nerfed in the near future. I'd like to add another passive to replace OWE instead. Maybe the shield would help increase my armor and CC along with core stats and hence I can use MoC instead of MoE for higher MP farming.

Sounds like a plan... whistling.gif
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:49 PM

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To stay away from OWE, try to gear up with armors with
-High AR 60-80 on all parts (expensive as DH is competing with monks on those)
-High armor (was cheap 1-2 months back, now this prop is getting expensive)
-High life regen (still considered as the undervalued prop)
-Don't go for items which have a bomb price for little vit. For example, an armor with high dex with little vit (30-50) usually cost a lot more expensive than high dex/high str. Ppl generally dont like this because of the messed up stats. but if you convert str to armor, it can boost your ehp more than the petty vit.

That's pretty much it to stay away from OWE. If the nerf is not too hard on OWE, one can still use OWE. but prepare for the worst. STI took a pretty bad punch to monks. from 100% > 50% dex as armor.
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post Dec 4 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 05:49 PM)
To stay away from OWE, try to gear up with armors with
-High AR 60-80 on all parts (expensive as DH is competing with monks on those)
-High armor (was cheap 1-2 months back, now this prop is getting expensive)
-High life regen (still considered as the undervalued prop)
-Don't go for items which have a bomb price for little vit. For example, an armor with high dex with little vit (30-50) usually cost a lot more expensive than high dex/high str. Ppl generally dont like this because of the messed up stats. but if you convert str to armor, it can boost your ehp more than the petty vit.

That's pretty much it to stay away from OWE. If the nerf is not too hard on OWE, one can still use OWE. but prepare for the worst. STI took a pretty bad punch to monks. from 100% > 50% dex as armor.
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right to what I am doing right now. I was with 1k str & +1k armor, now I got 700str +1700armor (as per profile). Vit just maintain around 1k to get hp to 30k or so, and get some %life roll.

Blackthorne set is the key to high armor. But then with blackthrone, dps also affected as some slots are meant for +dps are currently occupied

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post Dec 4 2012, 06:08 PM

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@yuhhaur
your surcoat, try getting one with insane vit.
i got mine around ~30mils. cant remember well.
70 dex
256 vit
7x AR
2xx armor
3 socks
need to go crazy on BT chest so you can go vitless on other armors.
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post Dec 4 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 05:49 PM)
To stay away from OWE, try to gear up with armors with
-High AR 60-80 on all parts (expensive as DH is competing with monks on those)
-High armor (was cheap 1-2 months back, now this prop is getting expensive)
-High life regen (still considered as the undervalued prop)
-Don't go for items which have a bomb price for little vit. For example, an armor with high dex with little vit (30-50) usually cost a lot more expensive than high dex/high str. Ppl generally dont like this because of the messed up stats. but if you convert str to armor, it can boost your ehp more than the petty vit.

That's pretty much it to stay away from OWE. If the nerf is not too hard on OWE, one can still use OWE. but prepare for the worst. STI took a pretty bad punch to monks. from 100% > 50% dex as armor.
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My monk that is on the verge of puberty has to choose the options as follow;-
1. get TWH belt and Inna Temperance with AR, both without AR now (unfortunately)
2. keep TWH belt, get Inna Temperance with AR (or just share my barb's almost imba rare pants at the expense of lower dps) and also, use the perfect block stormshield with chc

Thanks to both Masters; sangtupperware and qicquser for their respective ideas ...confident can clear mp9 now.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 4 2012, 06:27 PM
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post Dec 4 2012, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 06:08 PM)
@yuhhaur
your surcoat, try getting one with insane vit.
i got mine around ~30mils. cant remember well.
70 dex
256 vit
7x AR
2xx armor
3 socks
need to go crazy on BT chest so you can go vitless on other armors.
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agree. but i need the pickup radius, seeing 3k gold can't pickup is no no.
Hey, it is cheaper that way!

btw, my surcoat cost me 849,200. best for cheap arse monk like me.
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post Dec 4 2012, 08:11 PM

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need to confirm something guys..

if i got an ilvl 62 item in Act 3 MP0, will it rolled ilvl 63 stats?

or i need to be in MP1 minimum for the ilvl62 item to roll ilvl 63 stat eventhough i farm in Act3 MP0?
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post Dec 4 2012, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 08:11 PM)
need to confirm something guys..

if i got an ilvl 62 item in Act 3 MP0, will it rolled ilvl 63 stats?

or i need to be in MP1 minimum for the ilvl62 item to roll ilvl 63 stat eventhough i farm in Act3 MP0?
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MP0 act 1= ilevel61 act 2 ilevel62 and act3 & 4 ilevel 63..just like prior to patch.

Mp1 above = ilevel63 rolls all the way
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post Dec 4 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 08:11 PM)
need to confirm something guys..

if i got an ilvl 62 item in Act 3 MP0, will it rolled ilvl 63 stats?

or i need to be in MP1 minimum for the ilvl62 item to roll ilvl 63 stat eventhough i farm in Act3 MP0?
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If your monk can't play in mp1 by all means there is no other choice but to be involved in mp0 games otherwise you'll lose the benefits that comes with monster power level such as explained by gladfly mentioned above.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 4 2012, 09:52 PM
waklu
post Dec 4 2012, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 09:41 PM)
If your monk can't play in mp1 by all means there is no other choice but to be involved in mp0 games otherwise you'll lose the benefits that comes with monster power level such as explained by gladfly mentioned above.
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i didnt even say or mentioned i cant play mp1, tried mp5 and doing just fine

anyway thanks gladfly
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 11:09 PM)
i didnt even say or mentioned i cant play mp1, tried mp5 and doing just fine

anyway thanks gladfly
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You may not believe this assertation from me but some of my best loot drops came from mp1 and to a much lesser extent mp10.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 4 2012, 11:26 PM
waklu
post Dec 4 2012, 11:31 PM

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my best drop is from MP0..

so wassup?
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 11:25 PM)
You may not believe this assertation from me but some of my best loot drops came from mp1 and to a much lesser extent mp10.
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i super agree with you... i jus public game act 3 1 run can drop 4-5 legen. mp7 only got 1 or 2 drop. hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 11:31 PM)
my best drop is from MP0..

so wassup?
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lol!, agree to disagree ...however, everyone has different experience in-game. It's alright, though. All the best!, in your loot drop hunting. ~Peace.

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post Dec 5 2012, 07:14 AM

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...managed to obtain Act1 key in mp9 yesterday night was not difficult at all.
Attached Image not even 90k dps! hmm.gif

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post Dec 5 2012, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 5 2012, 07:14 AM)
...managed to obtain Act1 key in mp9 yesterday night was not difficult at all.
Attached Image not even 90k dps!  hmm.gif
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lol...ya considering ur HP + ARMOR + AR + Blocked Chances or shortly eHP....unfortunate for me i don have a stormshield.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

100k dps is just a common benchmark to fasten the killing only...even with that..if ur using Blazing wrath n MOC-Overawe ur DPS should be higher around 130K-150K DPS actually?.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

if ur talking solo...i think most of us MP10 already...what counts is..for me off course is u do it with coop since the monster have more dmg...more hp..

p/s: until now i can not solo uber mp10 ZK+SB... they ZK slow is a real slacker... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif or maybe i just a noob... cry.gif cry.gif

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post Dec 5 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 5 2012, 08:58 AM)
if ur talking solo...i think most of us MP10 already...what counts is..for me off course is u do it with coop since the monster have more dmg...more hp..
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only more hp, and not by much. in other words: coop is actually easier unless you're carrying people smile.gif

anyways finally bidded my 3rd piece inna's temperance upgrading it from legacy, lol lose 140ish vit compared to my old one so i'm forced to socket amethysts else i'll be left at 23k hp which leads to many 1-2 shotting >.>

been a while since i've last seen socketed amethysts LOL

3rd piece set bonus is better than expected. SW down times and running around act1 places without mobs having an actual spirit recovery is really nice (without burning a passive slot no less)
1 more piece to go and that would be the most expensive one if i'm to go for all resist (1 random property, so i cant stack AR/ArcaneR, and my current chest piece has 4x arcane 6x AR, bummer!)

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