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Monk Discussion V3, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
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gladfly
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Dec 4 2012, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 02:13 PM) Next time in any coop games, this baby monk is going to ask the barb ...got WarCry -Impunity ka? If not, MoC is not available, la!,  Yup warcry -impunity is the best co-op buff there is in terms of Defence. 20% Armor + 20% Res..fuuuuuu MoC-Overraw is the best offensive buff for co-op IMHO. Also, BoH and Blind is the best buff for monks no doubt. SW snapshot all these buff so the 30%+15% extra to SW makes its IMBA....use it before blizzard nerf it...
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yuhhaur
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Dec 4 2012, 02:28 PM
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Since day 1 we already know Monk and Barb are best friends
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MOBAJOBG
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Dec 4 2012, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 02:12 PM) even solo, nothing beats MoC. the key is that while tanking, you regain back life through LS/LOH (Breath of Heaven only heals so little) so dealing 48% more damage means you get 48% more hp in return, which in turn lengthened your survivability beside giving you the higher damages. If you can't tank without mantra, it simply means that your gear is not good enough. Based on my estimation, the existing gears used by my baby monk currently should be able to clear mp7 solo w/o chanting a mantra however I'm trying to push its boundaries playing at 2 levels higher without any gear upgrades by experimenting with the skills set, if possible. This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 4 2012, 02:36 PM
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gladfly
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Dec 4 2012, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 02:29 PM) Based on my estimation, the existing gears used by my baby monk currently should be able to clear mp7 solo w/o chanting a mantra however I'm trying to push its boundaries playing at 2 levels higher without any gear upgrades by experimenting with the skills set, if possible. Hmm just tested MoR....errrrrrr....not very good as I notice that ground effects are not reflected, i.e molten/arcane/descre Only physical attacks are reflected....me thinks moC is still better for solo.
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MOBAJOBG
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Dec 4 2012, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 4 2012, 02:43 PM) Hmm just tested MoR....errrrrrr....not very good as I notice that ground effects are not reflected, i.e molten/arcane/descre Only physical attacks are reflected....me thinks moC is still better for solo. Thanks for testing MoR out therefore I don't have to waste my time. I was banking on elemental damage to be reflected back, ...so MoC can't be replaced except by MoE or MoH. If I'm not mistaken, I've noticed that Barbs Overpower -Crushing Advance ( Redirect 35% of incoming melee and ranged damage for 4 seconds after Overpower is activated) does reflect back elemental damage. My barb certainly likes to spin in the molten red fires and poisonous green pools by hitting on the OP -CA skill frequently. This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 4 2012, 03:11 PM
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SUS2890
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Dec 4 2012, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 02:48 PM) Thanks for testing MoR out therefore I don't have to waste my time. I was banking on elemental damage to be reflected back, ...so MoC can't be replaced except by MoE or MoH. If I'm not mistaken, I've noticed that Barbs Overpower -Crushing Advance ( Redirect 35% of incoming melee and ranged damage for 4 seconds after Overpower is activated) does reflect back elemental damage. My barb certainly likes to spin in the molten red fires and poisonous green pools by hitting on the OP -CA skill frequently. again just shows why barbs are broken. =)
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Sabenarian
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Dec 4 2012, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 4 2012, 03:11 PM) again just shows why barbs are broken. =) but still, need good gear for that... DH also good what?.. onli class can use 2-H and offhand at the same time..
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yuhhaur
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Dec 4 2012, 03:24 PM
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and only class that can get +300%CHD in single weapon
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gladfly
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Dec 4 2012, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 03:24 PM) and only class that can get +300%CHD in single weapon Err...Skorn????
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SUS2890
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Dec 4 2012, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 03:24 PM) and only class that can get +300%CHD in single weapon lol.. okay okay.. im bias  Added on December 4, 2012, 3:28 pmQUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 4 2012, 03:27 PM) oh yeah, i forgot about skorn!!! now this is not fair already. =P This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 4 2012, 03:28 PM
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qicquser
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Dec 4 2012, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 4 2012, 03:27 PM) lol.. okay okay.. im bias  Added on December 4, 2012, 3:28 pmoh yeah, i forgot about skorn!!! now this is not fair already. =P Can use skorn + an offhand? hehehe item wise DH > everyone....
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Sabenarian
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Dec 4 2012, 04:01 PM
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end of the day, all about gears... barbarian with crap gears will die no stop in MP0... but u watch nice geared WD play? they damn good... i like to watch their streamings...
IMHO... for budget better roll a Monk... OWE help very much...
This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Dec 4 2012, 04:02 PM
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gladfly
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Dec 4 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 03:58 PM) Can use skorn + an offhand? hehehe item wise DH > everyone.... I can counter that..can a manticore roll 600 Dex???? Or roll above 1450 DPS? Skorn can roll to how much1.6k DPS?? Added on December 4, 2012, 4:09 pmQUOTE(Sabenarian @ Dec 4 2012, 04:01 PM) end of the day, all about gears... barbarian with crap gears will die no stop in MP0... but u watch nice geared WD play? they damn good... i like to watch their streamings... IMHO... for budget better roll a Monk... OWE help very much... Sure or not..I spend damn alot on my monk liao...more than my DH..Monk is expensive to gear But monk is fun...there is so much thrill of bashing and whacking monster ..compared with shooting at them.. This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 4 2012, 04:09 PM
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qicquser
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Dec 4 2012, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 4 2012, 04:06 PM) I can counter that..can a manticore roll 600 Dex???? Or roll above 1450 DPS? Skorn can roll to how much1.6k DPS?? DML is easily 300 dex + 200 on manticore. +20% ias, skill dmg bonus, crit chance, and max disc on DML. can you get that much buff on skorn alone? you are talking about skorn vs. 2 items Manticore + DML
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yuhhaur
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Dec 4 2012, 04:13 PM
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sadly monk don't have such OP weapons.
Added on December 4, 2012, 4:14 pmeven the dex rolled skorn also can't help much.
This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Dec 4 2012, 04:14 PM
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Sabenarian
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Dec 4 2012, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 04:13 PM) sadly monk don't have such OP weapons. Added on December 4, 2012, 4:14 pmeven the dex rolled skorn also can't help much. yeah..  and no skill/passive to buff high dps
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MOBAJOBG
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Dec 4 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 04:13 PM) sadly monk don't have such OP weapons. Added on December 4, 2012, 4:14 pmeven the dex rolled skorn also can't help much. My baby monk found this out the hard way.
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SUS2890
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Dec 4 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 04:11 PM) DML is easily 300 dex + 200 on manticore. +20% ias, skill dmg bonus, crit chance, and max disc on DML. can you get that much buff on skorn alone? you are talking about skorn vs. 2 items Manticore + DML you need to stop smoking pot my friend. easily 300 dex on DML? where do u get such figures? FYI, >300 DEX rolled DML is very expensive and worst if you have HA, EA or CA on it. With max disc u don't get double roll on DEX so the dex is <200. Next, 200 DEX manticore? Sure, 1OS then.
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Sabenarian
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Dec 4 2012, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 4 2012, 04:06 PM) Sure or not..I spend damn alot on my monk liao...more than my DH..Monk is expensive to gear But monk is fun...there is so much thrill of bashing and whacking monster ..compared with shooting at them.. of cos to have good DPS and survival... need a lot of gold... i talking about budget player...
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Bringitawn
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Dec 4 2012, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 04:16 PM) My baby monk found this out the hard way. Ehh...you no more baby monk...you have reached puberty! Show the world how to make love and not war. Hmmm...doesnt' sound right...
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