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vioxmonsta
post Oct 16 2012, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(fishon @ Oct 16 2012, 12:57 AM)
Viox. Anytime la. not far from my place. Wanna go? Bring your Penrod. Haha.
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HAHA,No game for the penrod.
u suggest time smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 10:21 AM

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Rory,

Yeah understand what you're saying. Sorry should have made it clearer. I actually want a overhead rod. Thats what we call it in Oz. Here it's either spinning or casting. I get abit confused sometimes.
My saltist is a 30TH which is a jigging reel with the narrow spool. I've used it for bait fishing as well. Live bait bottom and balloon rig abd Bottom bashing as well. Also with jigging. As for actually casting it.....never! haha
Always using gloves too. Never without it. Sun protection and because of braid these days it's much much better to use gloves. Dangerous like you said.

You speak very highly of the Eupro rod which got me interested. However would still prefer either a PE1-3 or Pe2-4 about 6 foot.

Thanks for the info though much appreciated.


Added on October 16, 2012, 10:22 am
QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Oct 16 2012, 09:58 AM)
HAHA,No game for the penrod.
u suggest time  smile.gif
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Got big tilapia right? lol
You mean today? or you suggest day i suggest time?

This post has been edited by fishon: Oct 16 2012, 10:22 AM
wetwetwater
post Oct 16 2012, 10:59 AM

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Gonna go hunt for my Salty Fighter!
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(wetwetwater @ Oct 16 2012, 10:59 AM)
Gonna go hunt for my Salty Fighter!
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Fyi bro, ss2 left a piece.but I booked it with Auntie d.unless ur saying the spinning rod. Loon fatt got 1more
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Oct 16 2012, 11:07 AM)
Fyi bro, ss2 left a piece.but I booked it with Auntie d.unless ur saying the spinning rod. Loon fatt got 1more
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Looking for a casting one. Spinning already have.
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post Oct 16 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(fishon @ Oct 16 2012, 10:21 AM)
Rory,

Yeah understand what you're saying. Sorry should have made it clearer. I actually want a overhead rod. Thats what we call it in Oz. Here it's either spinning or casting. I get abit confused sometimes.
My saltist is a 30TH which is a jigging reel with the narrow spool. I've used it for bait fishing as well. Live bait bottom and balloon rig abd Bottom bashing as well. Also with jigging. As for actually casting it.....never! haha
Always using gloves too. Never without it. Sun protection and because of braid these days it's much much better to use gloves. Dangerous like you said.

You speak very highly of the Eupro rod which got me interested. However would still prefer either a PE1-3 or Pe2-4 about 6 foot.

Thanks for the info though much appreciated.


Added on October 16, 2012, 10:22 am
Got big tilapia right? lol
You mean today? or you suggest day i suggest time?
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Ah...

i would only recommend if i personally tested the rod and knowing it's capabilities. I hardly buy rods nowadays mainly because i build them myself since a couple years ago. smile.gif

As for your jigging rod of PE 1~3 or PE2~4, you can consider Shimano's range.They have quite a few good range and stabile rod without causing much torque to your wrist. Check out Blue Rose or Jigrex. Blue Rose is a spiral wrap rod guides, have medium tip and strong backbone. But again, it depends on what type of jigging method that you regularly used. I'll come to that point after this. As for jig rex, it's fast tapered all rounder.

Jigging technique vs compatibility rod smile.gif

1. Fast short jig aka speed jigging
- This method is usually with light jigging jigs, due to the speed of jigging, it may cause fatique easily to many anglers. For this jigging method to be effective, pairing a long slender jig plates(maybe jig butt a little bigger, or waist line a big bigger) would be much preferred. This way, the jig does not have much hydrodynamic and it's more towards the darting actions. Using these type of jigs, it would perform better with fast tapered rod. Again, i repeat - mostly light jigging(not even mid or heavy)

2. Medium speed jigging
-Now as for medium speed jiggings, it is performed in such that allowing the jigs to flutter its way down. With fluttering actions, it would be staying in the strike zone longer thus having more strikes. Another type of jigs could be used is the whirling jigs. Have a close up look of the jig and imagine the hydrodynamic of the jig shape. It could be having the same jig weight as speed jigging, but due to the in-built actions, the rod will be felt heavier. TO pair with this method of jigging and jigs, go for 60/40 rods, meaning medium or medium fast rod. If the rod is too stiff, it usually cause blisters, but even if the rod is slightly softer, it would be easier to jig as slower motions compared to speed jigging.

3. Long stroke jigging
- Long stroke is practically giving a quick shot of upwards action, and allow the lure to sink whilst you cranking in line. These long stroke jigs are usually much heavier, at the range of 200g and above. With the help of waist belt harness, you minimised the factor of bruising too. This method is recommended to use medium rods, as you are allowing the jigs to be within strike zone and target species are not at super car speeds.

4. Lazy man aka yoyo
- Another calling is called inchiku, but inchiku is more to the jig type, rather than the technique. Basically playing yoyo. Slower taper rod would be best, but make sure it comes with good backbone when the strike kicks in!

All the methods above, truly dependant on the target species that you are hunting for.


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:09 pm
QUOTE(wetwetwater @ Oct 16 2012, 10:59 AM)
Gonna go hunt for my Salty Fighter!
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Enjoy bro.

This post has been edited by rorytate: Oct 16 2012, 01:09 PM
faujc99
post Oct 16 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(fishon @ Oct 16 2012, 09:48 AM)
Anything else I need to know? Yes. When are we going? Haha

Sorry there is abit of info but it's generally in malay. What I found anyways. And my Malay not so good these days anymore.

Boatman prices I have no idea. Does the boatman stay with you as well?

Sounds interesting nonetheless.
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Boatman stays with u, tats y if no fish on the lighthouse u can ask him to bring u somewhere else. Boat rental around 1k-1.2k, can fit max 10 pax


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:27 pmBro takeshiru, this saturday port klang trip u on? If not have to find someone else. Pls let me know ya, thx

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vioxmonsta
post Oct 16 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 01:19 PM)
Boatman stays with u, tats y if no fish on the lighthouse u can ask him to bring u somewhere else. Boat rental around 1k-1.2k, can fit max 10 pax


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:27 pmBro takeshiru, this saturday port klang trip u on? If not have to find someone else. Pls let me know ya, thx
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My oldman suggested that we try kapar lighthouse.
It could be quite fun tho for 10pax
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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Oct 16 2012, 01:53 PM)
My oldman suggested that we try kapar lighthouse.
It could be quite fun tho for 10pax
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should bring your old man together ler bro.. i could use some guidance and good tip... thumbup.gif
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post Oct 16 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 01:09 PM)
Ah...

i would only recommend if i personally tested the rod and knowing it's capabilities. I hardly buy rods nowadays mainly because i build them myself since a couple years ago. smile.gif

As for your jigging rod of PE 1~3 or PE2~4, you can consider Shimano's range.They have quite a few good range and stabile rod without causing much torque to your wrist. Check out Blue Rose or Jigrex. Blue Rose is a spiral wrap rod guides, have medium tip and strong backbone. But again, it depends on what type of jigging method that you regularly used. I'll come to that point after this. As for jig rex, it's fast tapered all rounder.

Jigging technique vs compatibility rod smile.gif

1. Fast short jig aka speed jigging
- This method is usually with light jigging jigs, due to the speed of jigging, it may cause fatique easily to many anglers. For this jigging method to be effective, pairing a long slender jig plates(maybe jig butt a little bigger, or waist line a big bigger) would be much preferred. This way, the jig does not have much hydrodynamic and it's more towards the darting actions. Using these type of jigs, it would perform better with fast tapered rod. Again, i repeat - mostly light jigging(not even mid or heavy)

2. Medium speed jigging
-Now as for medium speed jiggings, it is performed in such that allowing the jigs to flutter its way down. With fluttering actions, it would be staying in the strike zone longer thus having more strikes. Another type of jigs could be used is the whirling jigs. Have a close up look of the jig and imagine the hydrodynamic of the jig shape. It could be having the same jig weight as speed jigging, but due to the in-built actions, the rod will be felt heavier. TO pair with this method of jigging and jigs, go for 60/40 rods, meaning medium or medium fast rod. If the rod is too stiff, it usually cause blisters, but even if the rod is slightly softer, it would be easier to jig as slower motions compared to speed jigging.

3. Long stroke jigging
- Long stroke is practically giving a quick shot of upwards action, and allow the lure to sink whilst you cranking in line. These long stroke jigs are usually much heavier, at the range of 200g and above. With the help of waist belt harness, you minimised the factor of bruising too. This method is recommended to use medium rods, as you are allowing the jigs to be within strike zone and target species are not at super car speeds.

4. Lazy man aka yoyo
- Another calling is called inchiku, but inchiku is more to the jig type, rather than the technique. Basically playing yoyo. Slower taper rod would be best, but make sure it comes with good backbone when the strike kicks in!

All the methods above, truly dependant on the target species that you are hunting for.


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:09 pm

Enjoy bro.
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Awesome write up bro. Thanks for taking the time. Gonna save this to a document somewhere. I've seen the Jigwrex. Sweet rod....sweet price too haha
I don't do as much saltwater as fresh plus the east coast season is closed now sad.gif so possibly wait for abit before buying. Unless we go OFB, then again I'll just borrow my brother's rod. heh
Thanks heaps for the info


Added on October 16, 2012, 2:46 pm
QUOTE(faujc99 @ Oct 16 2012, 01:19 PM)
Boatman stays with u, tats y if no fish on the lighthouse u can ask him to bring u somewhere else. Boat rental around 1k-1.2k, can fit max 10 pax


Added on October 16, 2012, 1:27 pmBro takeshiru, this saturday port klang trip u on? If not have to find someone else. Pls let me know ya, thx
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OIC...interesting. Hope it's not just Gelema or whatever it's called. They look small haha

This post has been edited by fishon: Oct 16 2012, 02:46 PM
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post Oct 16 2012, 02:47 PM

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Bro FishOn,
If you are hitting on east coast, and purely jigging - you would just need a light jigging setup. Mostly casting with 40g to 80g nia. Depending on the current condition. Fast water 80g lor... and the area is not deep too.

Unless bottom for parrot fish, you need fast tapered and heavier setup

If sailfish, the Eupro Salty Fighter would do it liao... but of course, you wan to have more control, PE2~4 is sufficient. Anything more would be over kill biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 02:47 PM)
Bro FishOn,
If you are hitting on east coast, and purely jigging - you would just need a light jigging setup. Mostly casting with 40g to 80g nia. Depending on the current condition. Fast water 80g lor... and the area is not deep too.

Unless bottom for parrot fish, you need fast tapered and heavier setup

If sailfish, the Eupro Salty Fighter would do it liao... but of course, you wan to have more control, PE2~4 is sufficient. Anything more would be over kill biggrin.gif
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Correct. Hence why thinking of a Pe1-3 Rod.
Isn't the Eupro 0.8 - 2 or something?
Unfortunately my reel has 30lb Braid.

This post has been edited by fishon: Oct 16 2012, 02:52 PM
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post Oct 16 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(fishon @ Oct 16 2012, 02:50 PM)
New goodies smile.gif
Get the full white one also and the Chartruese

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post Oct 16 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(fishon @ Oct 16 2012, 02:50 PM)
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Added on October 16, 2012, 2:52 pm

Correct. Hence why thinking of a Pe1-3 Rod.
Isn't the Eupro 0.8 - 2 or something?
Unfortunately my reel has 30lb Braid.
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yeap PE 0.8 to PE2

More than enough to jig for east coast waters. Light jigging ma

Storm recently launched Gomoku Erito PE0.8-PE1.5 nia... It is being shot at east coast water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNQdL6DCMZM
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Did a search up on some other light jigging rods.

Zerek Light Tamer has 2 model 0.8-1 / 1-3PE
comes iwth Fuji KTSG guides and seat.

Golden Mean Sable Dance Pe2
full Fuji SIC

Storm Erito going RM300 in SS2

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post Oct 16 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 02:57 PM)
Get the full white one also and the Chartruese
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So happy with my purchase then you mentioned Chartreuse....damn gotta go back and grab one now. lol


Added on October 16, 2012, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 03:23 PM)
yeap PE 0.8 to PE2

More than enough to jig for east coast waters. Light jigging ma

Storm recently launched Gomoku Erito PE0.8-PE1.5 nia... It is being shot at east coast water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNQdL6DCMZM
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Does that mean I have to change my braid? Or be really careful with my drag setting.

Man that Storm rod loooks goooodd.....nice! Didn't see it at Kepong though.


Added on October 16, 2012, 3:45 pm
QUOTE(1dollar @ Oct 16 2012, 03:29 PM)
Did a search up on some other light jigging rods.

Zerek Light Tamer has 2 model 0.8-1 / 1-3PE
comes iwth Fuji KTSG guides and seat.

Golden Mean Sable Dance Pe2
full Fuji SIC

Storm Erito going RM300 in SS2
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Man some sweet sweet rods. The Golden Mean looks awesome too.

This post has been edited by fishon: Oct 16 2012, 03:45 PM
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post Oct 16 2012, 03:53 PM

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Bro FishOn,
30lb is good for light to medium fishing. It's ok.

If you're seeking thrills, go for 15~20lb light jigging.

I personally have tried 8lb braid on a 30+kg sail, STX 1st edition
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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 03:53 PM)
Bro FishOn,
30lb is good for light to medium fishing. It's ok.

If you're seeking thrills, go for 15~20lb light jigging.

I personally have tried 8lb braid on a 30+kg sail, STX 1st edition
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I'm just wondering as the braid is new and most definitely will break the rod under full load.
I'm all for light fishing as well but as I do not consume fish I like to bring in fish (not skull dragged) to the boat as soon as possible. Whilst still having fun wink.gif I think it's generally better for the fishes health especially in shallower water. Much deeper water like offshore in Sydney we do take our time a little bit. Not nice seeing a fish with an inflated swim bladder.

8lb 30+kg sail? Madness hahaha nice one Rory!
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Bro FishOn...

Imagine this... smile.gif

1. 30lb braided line (which likely to break at 45lb)
2. light jigging rod, backbone at PE2 = 32lb stress
3. your reel which contains, 150~200m of 30lb....

BEST part is...... tadaaa!

Your line wont break... your rod wont break... BECAUSE your reel will be spewing line ma..... smile.gif
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QUOTE(rorytate @ Oct 16 2012, 04:14 PM)
Bro FishOn...

Imagine this... smile.gif

1. 30lb braided line (which likely to break at 45lb)
2. light jigging rod, backbone at PE2 = 32lb stress
3. your reel which contains, 150~200m of 30lb....

BEST part is...... tadaaa!

Your line wont break... your rod wont break... BECAUSE your reel will be spewing line ma..... smile.gif
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Yala so I will need to adjust my drag pretty fine la. hehe if not Tadaaaa maybe rod and reel also dont have haha
Actually it has 300m of 30lb. Still little bit underfilled. Thanks for narrowing it down for me. Now to physically put my reel on the rods and off we go. smile.gif

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