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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post May 6 2012, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ May 6 2012, 09:39 PM)
Can you shoot some video on the cracking sound? aim at the rev meter.
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Will try. Wonder my ip4 can do it or not? I suspect is the header, coz i saw got a part is touching the screw. Already ask the shop but they say doesnt matter. Will try to swap the header and see. Any good 4-1 header to recommend? Stainless steel or white steel will do. Or a Mivec header is better?

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4-1 headers, you can opt for Hotbits, Powerzone, Supercircuit or RPW replicas

The rest are all stainless steel except for the Powerzone ones which are double chromed. Not sure on the collector sizes of the Hotbits and PZ, Supercircuit one is 2.5" collector, where else the RPW replica is 2.3" at the collector
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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 7 2012, 12:08 AM)
4-1 headers, you can opt for Hotbits, Powerzone, Supercircuit or RPW replicas

The rest are all stainless steel except for the Powerzone ones which are double chromed. Not sure on the collector sizes of the Hotbits and PZ, Supercircuit one is 2.5" collector, where else the RPW replica is 2.3" at the collector
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How much is that for 2.5"?
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QUOTE(hkh_88 @ May 7 2012, 12:33 AM)
How much is that for 2.5"?
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You will need to ask Supercircuit on the pricing
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Apr 11 2012, 10:05 AM)
yes. more loud than sflow.

there is slight different between sflow n straight flow. like u noe, sflow gives u more power on low or mid hp, mean while straight is d other way. if u change from sflow to vice versa, u can feel there is different although not much.

if goin for halfcut, better make sure its japang mali, wit jasma tag (ribet on d muffler).


kanasai lu... u kasi besar itu piping of course la... generally, for most car straight flow muffler pair best wit stock piping..
if u wan cheap n cheerful, kweng shop is d way to go..

topcat/matola etc hav better inner side quality.. generally, muffler in malaysia r universal.. MOST r 2" inlet...... so vry difficult to find smaller size..

well... it all depends on which school of tuning u r at. some school tune for most little resistance to exhaust flow, some tune for best sound wave pressure, n alot more schools..

generally, people will tune for little resistance to exhaust flow.. when u r this type of school, then using 2" muffler is better choice.

generally, resistance for straight flow muffler; -100cfm or below, resistance for sflow muffler; - cfm for inner diameter divide by 2. this is rough estimation based on more well known muffler..

cfm for different piping is here..
http://www.exhaustvideos.com/faq/how-to-ca...-pipe-diameter/
u r r lookin for performance or jus wanna ganti it n hope abit performance gain?
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i came back after few weeks of tests for my exhaust. I installed PowerZone Extractor 421, Matola oval mid box (straight flow) and Matola S-flow muffler (big size) while maintains the stock piping. Sound-wise, i cant say more. Really silent, close to stock's sound, and a bit nice bassy sound when revving.

However, the result on my setup was quite a frustration to mine. I cant feel a lot of differences, oni a bit of pick up lower-mid (3.5k) rpm. Currently, it's getting better as my ECU relearned my driving style. Top speed? Weird case, i lost top speed. Cant reach 200kmh anymore. 185 topspeed at ~5.3k rpm. Cant go more. wtf shakehead.gif

So, i went to see an old friend, a vtech formen which tried my car. He scared me till my pants off as he said that my driving style doesnt suit the s-flow muffler i bought, as for now the muffler itself has become the flow resistance and there's a chance that it will affect my HEAD, as the backpressure was too high.

Can anyone verify this? Do i really need to change my muffler to straight flow instead? Is there any straight muffler which can provide low frequency bassy sound instead od praaaangggggggg sound?

Thanks Sifus. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(PedoJokerBear-XII @ May 7 2012, 02:26 PM)
woot..
i came back after few weeks of tests for my exhaust. I installed PowerZone Extractor 421, Matola oval mid box (straight flow) and Matola S-flow muffler (big size) while maintains the stock piping. Sound-wise, i cant say more. Really silent, close to stock's sound, and a bit nice bassy sound when revving.

However, the result on my setup was quite a frustration to mine. I cant feel a lot of differences, oni a bit of pick up lower-mid (3.5k) rpm. Currently, it's getting better as my ECU relearned my driving style. Top speed? Weird case, i lost top speed. Cant reach 200kmh anymore.  185 topspeed at ~5.3k rpm. Cant go more. wtf shakehead.gif

So, i went to see an old friend, a vtech formen which tried my car. He scared me till my pants off as he said that my driving style doesnt suit the s-flow muffler i bought, as for now the muffler itself has become the flow resistance and there's a chance that it will affect my HEAD, as the backpressure was too high.

Can anyone verify this? Do i really need to change my muffler to straight flow instead? Is there any straight muffler which can provide low frequency bassy sound instead od praaaangggggggg sound?

Thanks Sifus.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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How big is your Matola S-flow? 2" inlet?

For straight flow, to avoid the pprraanngg sound, avoid types like the 5zigen Border 304 muffler
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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 7 2012, 03:28 PM)
How big is your Matola S-flow? 2" inlet?

For straight flow, to avoid the pprraanngg sound, avoid types like the 5zigen Border 304 muffler
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Yes. Currently is 2". Gonna sell soon anyway. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

I see, that was what they call trumpet muffler isn't it? So, which type is recommended? Currently, i'm looking for JASMA approved muffler at half-cut but sadly, 2" seems like do not exist at all. Minimum inlet i can find is 2.3".

owh, btw, is there any good immitate stuff out there which is reliable?

Thanks. notworthy.gif

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post May 8 2012, 02:22 AM

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Rsr magic + 2.5 inch piping + 421 extractor = gooding and make my neighbours curse. trolllolol in the morning everyday :-)

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post May 9 2012, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(PedoJokerBear-XII @ May 7 2012, 09:24 PM)
Yes. Currently is 2". Gonna sell soon anyway.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

I see, that was what they call trumpet muffler isn't it? So, which type is recommended? Currently, i'm looking for JASMA approved muffler at half-cut but sadly, 2" seems like do not exist at all. Minimum inlet i can find is 2.3".

owh, btw, is there any good immitate stuff out there which is reliable?

Thanks.  notworthy.gif
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2" got... look for fgk muffler wit jasma tag... hks also got ..tanabe also got... look at mudah... bkful as alot imitation goin around.. ori jasma tag is weld by ribet..
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QUOTE(PedoJokerBear-XII @ May 7 2012, 02:26 PM)
So, i went to see an old friend, a vtech formen which tried my car. He scared me till my pants off as he said that my driving style doesnt suit the s-flow muffler i bought, as for now the muffler itself has become the flow resistance and there's a chance that it will affect my HEAD, as the backpressure was too high.

Can anyone verify this? Do i really need to change my muffler to straight flow instead? Is there any straight muffler which can provide low frequency bassy sound instead od praaaangggggggg sound?

Thanks Sifus.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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wats a vtech?


n go try out the mugen twin loop

and 2.3" straightflow muffler is fine with 2" pipes... had that setup last time...coz its nearing the end already
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 9 2012, 08:35 AM)
2" got... look for fgk muffler wit jasma tag... hks also got ..tanabe also got... look at mudah... bkful as alot imitation goin around.. ori jasma tag is weld by ribet..
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Thanks for the info. Then, i'll need to look more drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

QUOTE(mADmAN @ May 9 2012, 11:27 AM)
wats a vtech?
n go try out the mugen twin loop

and 2.3" straightflow muffler is fine with 2" pipes... had that setup last time...coz its nearing the end already
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You know what i mean laugh.gif

The problem is i maintained my standard piping which is 1.75" i believe for campro iafm. 2.3" is quite some gap is u asked me.

Btw, someone offered me Kakimoto Racing R muffler for quite a good price. Inlet 2.3" but the inside piping is 2" all the way. Any comment guys? rclxub.gif


Added on May 12, 2012, 2:17 ambtw mugen twin loop immitate is ok? btw, just wonder twin loop is consider straight flow or s-flow?

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I plan to change my LMST muffler. Noisy like.... doh.gif What size of inlet/outlet is best for my car? The exhaust system 3is stock, I just want to change the muffler. And will S/straight flow have any difference? I'm looking for bassy sound (but not very ahbeng loud) while idling brows.gif
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QUOTE(ILikePie @ May 12 2012, 10:21 AM)
I plan to change my LMST muffler. Noisy like.... doh.gif What size of inlet/outlet is best for my car? The exhaust system 3is stock, I just want to change the muffler. And will S/straight flow have any difference? I'm looking for bassy sound (but not very ahbeng loud) while idling brows.gif
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i heard, if you're not planing to change your extractor, changing a good s-flow muffler will provide some improvement. I'm not sure tho, as i changed my full exhaust setup from extractor to muffler.


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Improvement wise, extractor yields the most difference smile.gif
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Hi ,

Planning to change to extractor 4-1 first for myvi 1.3 ( dun know which brand I should go for )
brand like : hotbits , dsport , powerzone , superstreet


I need feedbacks from drivers please smile.gif

thank you

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QUOTE(david9 @ May 14 2012, 12:53 AM)
Hi ,

Planning to change to extractor 4-1 first for myvi 1.3 ( dun know which brand I should go for )
brand like : hotbits , dsport , powerzone , superstreet
I need feedbacks from drivers please smile.gif

thank you
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Why you wanna change? Dont be fooled into thinking that it will improve your power like turbo.
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either one will do as i believe it shldnt differ much (since its still 4-1) just different brand names only..

well, hotbits have issues with material problems if u google on their extractor crack issue. if i were u, i probably give dsport/superstreet a try. superstreet have their own r&d and dyno tuned so it shld be good. dsport on the other hand is branded, and definitely exp haha

so its up to u so long ure happy with it smile.gif

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post May 18 2012, 09:40 AM

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My extractor cracked..and already weld it.but power kureng la..damn..
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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ May 18 2012, 09:40 AM)
My extractor cracked..and already weld it.but power kureng la..damn..
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Change extractor, kaw tim
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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 18 2012, 10:14 AM)
Change extractor, kaw tim
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