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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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amir_tengkorak
post Oct 10 2011, 07:31 PM

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Hai guys.i'm new in this lowyat forum.

Currently driving satria 1.3 carburetor.
My current exhaust setup is
1)Zenden 4-2-1 Extractor
2)2 inch nenas/flexi pipe
3)1.7 inch piping with 2 inch mid bullet
4)2 inch straight flow muffler

Previously i was using stock nenas/flexi which is the size is around 1.5 or 1.6 inch..
I've decided to change to bigger nenas because i scared of bottleneck in my exhaust system..
After changed to 2 inch nenas/flexi,low end tarak power already..
Should i stick with it,change to 1.7 inch nenas,or change back to stock nenas?

Thanks for reading yo.
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post Oct 10 2011, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 10 2011, 07:43 PM)
wahahah!! king amir also come here~~

prepare kena mind twistin theory la...lol!

lol... i till noe no dare sentuh pipe diameter coz scare my low end disturbed...zzz
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dei..apa king laaaa..
actually,its just slightly low end power lost..
and the good side is,when the torque kicks in,fuh..
gear 3 macam nak terbang siot.. sweat.gif
amir_tengkorak
post Oct 11 2011, 12:30 AM

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wei tauke 5770,come la test my car first..tak try tak tau maaa..sudah try hari hari mau maaa.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 11 2011, 09:09 AM)
haha! kanasai la u. dun poison me la. =.=!
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Dei..mana ada poison..i mau hilangkan u mia curious je..hehehehehe

QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Oct 11 2011, 09:10 AM)
what car bro?sound cool  rclxms.gif
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Old satria 1.3 carburetor only..small ciku slow car.. sweat.gif
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post Oct 11 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Oct 11 2011, 12:54 PM)
but body is light. hehe . take me for a ride cn? smile.gif u guys dont do TT? wish to mix with other car users hehe
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Can..but my car slow ler..if got any TT i'll inform u.

OR,

U guys want to TT?
Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification TT.
Can hear lots of mufflers.. brows.gif

amir_tengkorak
post Oct 12 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 11 2011, 06:05 PM)
Mine S-flow only, hear what lah.....
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Hear your brop brop brop.. brows.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 11 2011, 08:25 PM)
haha suddenly got mufflers/exhaust pipe TT, interesting.
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Suggestion only wei..hehe..if majority mau TT ok la we proceed..
For learning process also what..because exhaust system i think its quite subjective..

QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Oct 11 2011, 10:54 PM)
bullet and mid box are the same thing
both job is to suppress sound of the exhaust and will create back pressure
as for answer i cannot answer u as i am reading ur describtion here rather than looking at ur bullet design/inlet and outlet bla bla bla and i am not a bomoh so i cannot give the answer that will 100percent accurate
but in general law less restriction is better in way till ur exhaust still can maintain the scanvenging effect
if scanvenging effect if affected it will be bad news
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Hai bomoh.last time u tried my car with stock nenas.
Come try again with this 2 inch nenas pulak.. brows.gif

QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Oct 12 2011, 12:47 AM)
jomla.when? a group of 4-5 ppl also good engh smile.gif cn see u guys cars
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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Oct 12 2011, 02:28 AM)
ooh fark..lets do it hahaha biggrin.gif
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JOM! but...where u guys staying leh?
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post Oct 12 2011, 10:04 AM

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wei mau dyno ka? adoi next month la..this month koyak liao..
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post Oct 12 2011, 03:41 PM

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want to wait also caaaannnnnn...
confirm paling bising gila punya.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 04:30 PM

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beli sudah..wei u still go for B20?
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post Oct 24 2011, 08:52 AM

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My low end torque is baaaaaaaccccckk!!!
I've changed back to previous nenas/flexi pipe. brows.gif

To 4G13 owner,if ur car is stock,don't use 2 inches nenas or piping.suffer wei last few weeks with the 2 inches nenas.. sweat.gif
wei low yat 82,come shah alam.i kasi test.. brows.gif
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post Oct 25 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 25 2011, 08:57 AM)
hehe! thanks for d experiment yo... but i dunno my flexi pipe size though... y shah alam a? u not stay at kelana jaya ka?
I'm from shah alam la dei.. smile.gif

To all who want to tembak me and say flexi pipe size doesn't matter,go ahead try to change to big size.
Even exhaust shop tembak me and say that flexi pipe doesn't matter.
But then after i explain my problem,then only they started to "oh ya la maybe got difference"
F**k la..off course got difference..if u compare the inner size of a small and big flexi pipe,big difference la..
Front portion of exhaust system pulak tu..haiz..
If anyone here want to tembak me,hold on..chill..
Go to exhaust shop,buy a flexi pipe that is bigger than ur current flexi pipe and install it.
Use it 1 month see u can tahan or not the almost no low end power..hahahaha

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post Oct 25 2011, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 25 2011, 10:07 AM)
haha... u taiko ma.. they too bz sellin exhaust forgot ab d importance of flexi pipe.

i guess when u say really got different means can feel.. dunno mine wat size..goona see it when change piping..
shah alam where? not free la... goin to langkawi on this thursday..huhu... comin back on 29th... means cant join u guys for dinner  doh.gif
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Dei what taiko.. dry.gif
Eh u confirm mau tukar piping ah? naissss... brows.gif
Langkawi apa bikin? come la the 4G1series dinner..got lots of straight road there to test..hehehehehe
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post Oct 25 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 25 2011, 10:37 AM)
ya... confirm... increase to 1.6"-1.65" (internal shud b 1.5x) dun wan too big la.. later low end reduce alot..cannot la.. coz 95% i town drive.... >.<"

langkawi las time alreay buy airasia ticket... pergi balik onli rm90 for 2 person... huhu..
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Before u tukar,come la test my car first.feel the low end power first..if nice for u,then change la 1.7 inch..
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post Oct 25 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 25 2011, 01:42 PM)
like dat good also.. i contact u after come bc from langkawi..huhu..
caaaannn..wei apa lu dah bikin kat kereta? LCP sudah ah?
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post Oct 25 2011, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Oct 25 2011, 02:39 PM)
i 2nd that, u are indeed a wise person to kitai back the exhaust guy hehe biggrin.gif
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I think because of he didn't drive car la..maybe he naik motor only..
His expression is priceless siot when i said "i bawak ini kereta tiap2 hari boss..mesti la i tau ada beza..1st day tukar sudah tau beza laaaaa.."
We all observe when driving..thats why we all finding the best setup within our budget..right?
Now i'm thinking of smaller pipe on the front portion..
Maybe the same pipe diameter with nenas till mid bullet..
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post Oct 28 2011, 08:36 AM

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What if bigger to smaller diameter?
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post Oct 28 2011, 09:53 AM

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Hmm..ok this one can link back to my flexi pipe/nenas story..
My current nenas actually 1.7 inch with 1.5 inch flange to mount the piping..
So the nenas itself from extractor welding point,goes smaller in diameter because of the 1.5 inch flange.
So that is where my exhaust system creates back pressure..
After the 1.5 inch flange,it is mounted to 1.7 inch piping,2 inches mid bullet,1.7 inch piping till rear 2 inches inlet straight flow muffler..
So..can u guys imagine my exhaust system? tongue.gif
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post Oct 31 2011, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:05 AM)
ur exhaust setup good d la.. can support till 110hp liao... if u wan more tuning.. play wit d bullet placement... biggrin.gif
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Bila la mau reach 100hp..hahaha..never dyno before..
Bullet placement ah..i think the next thing to do is potong je the bullet..hahahaha

QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Oct 30 2011, 09:58 AM)
Piping sizes does play a part, but the sifu welding them together also must be good......especially when 1.5" join to 1.7" to 2". Going from small to big can be okay, but if you got some that go from big to small pipe then the sifu must be good....
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Yes agreed with u.the welding must be good also.cannot just tembak there to make it lekat..
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post Oct 31 2011, 03:54 PM

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dei how much per session ah? i tatau this dyno2 thing..
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post Oct 31 2011, 04:25 PM

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the carb tuning is using what? got CO or they just main pusing je the A/F screw?

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