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 Working in Singapore V12, Yusheng - 23rd Feb (Saturday)

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post Feb 22 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jungyu @ Feb 22 2013, 05:06 PM)
I still dunno how to buy toto. Anyone kind enough to teach? No worry, i wont compete for $1m
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Visit the nearby branch, tell them Toto $2 will do.
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post Feb 22 2013, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(yiivei @ Feb 22 2013, 05:22 PM)
Visit the nearby branch, tell them Toto $2 will do.
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$2 can't sapu 1st and 2nd group winnings. buy $3.50 for a chance to sapu both group winnings rclxm9.gif .

This post has been edited by Mackiddo: Feb 22 2013, 05:31 PM
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post Feb 23 2013, 12:43 AM

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14 tips to secure an Employment Pass in Singapore

The Singapore Government's recent move to tighten the labour force and make work passes scarce means every businessperson needs to be smart when applying for work passes.

There are several reasons why an application may be rejected. The application may have a technical error, or perhaps the company and / or candidate have not been clearly explained.

Here are 14 principles to increase the chances of securing an employment pass application the first time.

Right designation. Don't short sell the candidate. Choose a title that accurately reflects the seniority of the candidate. If the candidate is in operations, are they the 'director of operations', and not 'operations manager'?

Experience matters. The candidate should have different experience or skill-sets not available in the local job market. Their CV should list similar positions held before. Include with the application a copy of the job description.

Degree holder. It is preferable if the candidate is a degree holder. However for most industries, experience plays a bigger role. Candidates who obtained qualifications from a Singapore institution have an advantage.

Relevant references. In cases where a degree or formal qualifications are not held, references written from prominent companies validating the experience of the candidate hold sway.

Right salary. Since 1 December 2012, EPs and other work passes require a greater base salary. A salary below the bar will get you a quick rejection. The salary should not compete with local talent, which is why it priced higher.

Nationality. As defined by the ICA, candidates from tier one countries (including USA, Australia, Europe and Malaysia) are easier to secure an EP.

Existing EP holder. We discovered employees who are EP holders, have higher chances of obtaining a new EP from a new employer.

Company structure. Companies operating successfully for longer than three years have an advantage over startups. New companies can benefit from having a large paid up capital to demonstrate to MOM they have liquidity to pay salaries.

Profile building. If it is the company's first time applying for a pass, include a copy of the business plan to build the profile of the company.

Niche industry. Some industries are easier to hire foreign talent than others. Tech startups are an example of a sector which we have seen fast approvals of EP applications.

Appeals. It is very likely you will need to file one appeal. Plan this with the candidate and have a backup plan should things go wrong. You have 30 days to file the appeal.

Past rejections. A candidate with a history of rejected EP applications, has a lower chance in the future of securing an application. It is so important to get the application correct the first time.

Quotas. S-Passes have strict quotas - four Singaporeans to one foreigner. EPs are free of quota restrictions.

Right work pass. EPs and PEPs are among the two most popular work passes for professionals. However a Letter of Consent or a Business Visa are easier to apply for and may suffice.

http://sbr.com.sg/hr-education/commentary/...ss-in-singapore
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post Feb 23 2013, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Feb 22 2013, 08:38 AM)
3 working days? not 5? hmm.gif
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Friday, Monday & Tuesday. 3 working days.
no?
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post Feb 23 2013, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(strison @ Feb 22 2013, 11:37 AM)
My future boss asks me to wait for 3 weeks instead of 3 days,
and saying the application still might be get rejected....

What kind of say??
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when my employer applied for the IPA, it got approved in 1 day.
the Actual pass, 3 working days as i've mentioned above.

cheers!

very efficient
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post Feb 23 2013, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Feb 22 2013, 10:24 AM)
Bring your EP, passport and malaysia IC, some initial deposit, if you bring all these, should be ok to apply at any bank. whistling.gif
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u can use ur IPA also. I opened an account with POSB with my IPA, passport. Deposit, up to you on the amount.
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post Feb 23 2013, 02:11 AM

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i was offered a media sales executive job in a firm that publishes architecture magazines.

the pay is SGD1600 before become permanent staff. after become permanent staff is SGD1700. commision wise not so high i think. we can no need include that.

is it too low for a malaysian fresh grad? please let me know sad.gif

i will be staying at ang mo kio while the office is at aljunied.

dunno i should take the job or not..

and what is white card? they ask me to give them to process work permit.

i have no idea what i am going for now..
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post Feb 23 2013, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 23 2013, 02:11 AM)
i was offered a media sales executive job in a firm that publishes architecture magazines.

the pay is SGD1600 before become permanent staff. after become permanent staff is SGD1700. commision wise not so high i think. we can no need include that.

is it too low for a malaysian fresh grad? please let me know sad.gif

i will be staying at ang mo kio while the office is at aljunied.

dunno i should take the job or not..

and what is white card? they ask me to give them to process work permit.

i have no idea what i am going for now..
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I think it's quite low.
but i'm not familiar with sales.

white card is the card that you filled in when you enter singapore.
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post Feb 23 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(yiivei @ Feb 22 2013, 05:22 PM)
Visit the nearby branch, tell them Toto $2 will do.
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How about number? Do i need to write for them?
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post Feb 23 2013, 12:24 PM

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Hi everyone... I will be heading to Singapore next Monday for my job... (was supposed to start on the 1st March but they want me to start early.. =(..)

My EP have been approved...
So how many days I should write down in the white card?

After I get the EP, the next time do I need to queue at the imigresen or they have this fast lane for citizen/pr/work permit holder?
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post Feb 23 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ameil @ Feb 23 2013, 12:24 PM)
Hi everyone... I will be heading to Singapore next Monday for my job... (was supposed to start on the 1st March but they want me to start early.. =(..)

My EP have been approved...
So how many days I should write down in the white card?

After I get the EP, the next time do I need to queue at the imigresen or they have this fast lane for citizen/pr/work permit holder?
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White card just fill until the day you get your EP, tell them lo if they ask. Not so stringent.

Ya you can use the fast lane with EP, but sometime the fast lane more crowded than the other lane mad.gif
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post Feb 23 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Feb 23 2013, 06:30 AM)
I think it's quite low.
but i'm not familiar with sales.

white card is the card that you filled in when you enter singapore.
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i really think its too low.

i think i'll find another job..
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post Feb 23 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 23 2013, 02:12 PM)
i really think its too low.

it's too low. 1.6 1.7k is like STPM qualification job
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post Feb 23 2013, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Feb 23 2013, 04:17 PM)
it's too low. 1.6 1.7k is like STPM qualification job
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yea. not worth it eventho i do not need to pay high rent. because i think i am underpaid if i take that job. i need to pay rent or not is not the issue here.

i decided to enroll myself in japanese language course and take jlpt (internationally recognized paper).

will it help me in the future in singapore?
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post Feb 23 2013, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 23 2013, 07:56 PM)
yea. not worth it eventho i do not need to pay high rent. because i think i am underpaid if i take that job. i need to pay rent or not is not the issue here.

i decided to enroll myself in japanese language course and take jlpt (internationally recognized paper).

will it help me in the future in singapore?
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knowing an extra language will always be an advantage
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post Feb 23 2013, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Feb 23 2013, 08:05 PM)
knowing an extra language will always be an advantage
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thanks for your reply. i hope i make a correct choice.
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post Feb 23 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 23 2013, 07:56 PM)
yea. not worth it eventho i do not need to pay high rent. because i think i am underpaid if i take that job. i need to pay rent or not is not the issue here.
Not really.

Whether you're underpaid or not depends on the options available to you.

If there is someone else who is willing to pay you more than 1.7K, then you're underpaid. If you have no other offers and nobody else is interested in you, then you're not underpaid. You are ONLY paid... 1.7K.

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i decided to enroll myself in japanese language course and take jlpt (internationally recognized paper).

will it help me in the future in singapore?
In a word,.. no.

Assuming you currently have no proficiency in Japanese, the time and effort you need to expend in order to learn Japanese to a professionally acceptable level is way too high, compared to the return or advantage that you will gain from being able to speak Japanese in Singapore.

If you want to learn a language, I suggest to concentrate only on English and/or Mandarin.

If you are good in English, learn or improve your Mandarin.

If you are good in Mandarin, improve your English.

If you're half past six in both English and Mandarin (like 90% of the Malaysians here), then improve your English first before improving your Mandarin.

If you are very very good in both English and Mandarin... don't waste time and effort learning any more languages at a professional level. Using that time and energy to get a professional qualification or getting a higher degree will yield much better return on investment.
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post Feb 23 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Feb 23 2013, 08:38 PM)
Not really.

Whether you're underpaid or not depends on the options available to you.

If there is someone else who is willing to pay you more than 1.7K, then you're underpaid. If you have no other offers and nobody else is interested in you, then you're not underpaid. You are ONLY paid... 1.7K.

QUOTE(xtylish)
i decided to enroll myself in japanese language course and take jlpt (internationally recognized paper).

will it help me in the future in singapore?
In a word,.. no.

Assuming you currently have no proficiency in Japanese, the time and effort you need to expend in order to learn Japanese to a professionally acceptable level is way too high, compared to the return or advantage that you will gain from being able to speak Japanese in Singapore.

If you want to learn a language, I suggest to concentrate only on English and/or Mandarin.

If you are good in English, learn or improve your Mandarin.

If you are good in Mandarin, improve your English.

If you're half past six in both English and Mandarin (like 90% of the Malaysians here), then improve your English first before improving your Mandarin.

If you are very very good in both English and Mandarin... don't waste time and effort learning any more languages at a professional level. Using that time and energy to get a professional qualification or getting a higher degree will yield much better return on investment.
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that company hired me on the spot, and its my first interview. i can always find more interviews then only decide on which job I will take in the future.

as my mandarin and english is fine enough. while japanese i already have the beginner level, i just want to brush it up and take the exam. and I just got my degree, my convo is next month.

unless you are telling me to go for master degree now. which i cannot afford to do so. maybe after 2 years with working experience then yes for masters.

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 23 2013, 08:44 PM)
that company hired me on the spot, and its my first interview. i can always find more interviews then only decide on which job I will take in the future.
Well, get more data points first before concluding you're underpaid. Who knows, the other companies might only offer you 1.5K or 1.6K.

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as my mandarin and english is fine enough.
Ermmm... for business writing in a MNC environment... your English needs some work.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Feb 23 2013, 09:39 PM)
Well, get more data points first before concluding you're underpaid. Who knows, the other companies might only offer you 1.5K or 1.6K.

QUOTE(xtylish)
as my mandarin and english is fine enough.
Ermmm... for business writing in a MNC environment... your English needs some work.
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