Dear all,

Good Morning.

Refer to the above, pls give some comments as below :-

a. Maintenance
b. Price


Thanks

a. Quartz is easier to maintain.
b. Quartz costs more

Now Unity Kitchen got discount until 31st october. The price for granite and quartz is the same, i.e. RM 190 pfr, normal price 250.

Just got my quotation yesterday.
Dont know whether limited finish(design) or just the plain one.

I am going there to get better info.
Was told by the staff at Signature Kitchen that Granite/Quartz will absorb some moisture and transmit it to the base cabinet. This will make the base cabinet a bit smelly.. Anyone can vouch to this??

Anyone got any recommendation for nice finish?

i think the ability of withstand heat is better for granite. make sure you don't use white quartz.

quartz also many different grade, i suppose the expensive one can match granite.

why dont use white quartz? turn yellow?

Hi guys,

I still cant decide to go for granite or Quartz lah.... According to sales person, Quartz is better coz water absorption is low, compression strength, toughness strength, anti wear, anti acid & alkali , no radiation and no maintenance.

Having say that, I just don't understand, why natural granite cost the same as quartz (man make)? i m just afraid if I make the wrong decision and later regret. Hmmmm.....

Granite stains easily. I think mine not sealed. Next time I will go for quartz but I don't like the price.
Color choice is limited to dark colors for granite so if you are out of luck if you want something white

This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 10 2012, 06:12 PM

my kc uses granite natural stone looks elegants...
i think this also good reads.
http://www.countertopspecialty.com/counter...-materials.html

This debate will be continue forever and ever, and we did discuss at Kitchen cabinet thread before.
Just choose what u think is best, rather to debate which 1 is the best.
btw, i am using granite top for my kitchen.

If your granite is not sealed then no wonder it stains easily. How come your supplier didn't seal it for you? I thought it is standard procedure.

My granite tops are sealed and I have little problem with staining.

Who said granite is only limited to dark colours? You can get other colours, but yes there is no pure white for granite but there is a nice white & gray granite (can't remember the name now).

I've not experienced this in my kitchen.

i never know granite has to be sealed. does it mean the installer has to apply a coat of sealer after installation?

how thick is the quarzt stone? diff thickness diff price...

It does depend on the type of granite. Some are non-porous. Have a read here:

http://www.marble.com/articles/to-seal-or-not-to-seal/
http://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improve...ountertops3.htm

Ask the supplier if Emerald Pearl needs sealing or not.

That's what I wondering too.

In all my thought, granite should be more expensive than medium quality solid surface hardtop and quartz is a little bit higher than granite. I have other KC co provide me such quotation.

But for Unity, the solid surface is not a cheap price and hence just top up a little bit to get Granite and Quartz, thats confuse me too because in my mind, granite should be more solid and heat resistant and quartz is more good looking with lil shiny top....

I planning to get only solid surface for my dry kitchen because it may a lot cheaper compare to granite and quartz, but surprise that it just top up RM 350 to get granite or quartz. Ya, the SA also pushing for the Quartz.

Any bro can share idea which is better for dry kitchen with oven? Solid surface is 8k and if with granite or quartz, just add on RM 350 to get it ....

If budget isn't an issue for one, should opt for the premium one, as setting up this quite hard and normally the setup will last long
I do personally prefer solid surface but granite/quartz is more premium in looking

Even for solid surface there are different brands and quality. Maybe the solid surface they are selling is the more expensive type, so the price diff vs granite is quite small.

Of course even for granite there are different prices (depending on which type/color you get). So to do better comparison ask for full details of their solid surface and their granite. Then do some research on the net.

Why do you prefer solid surface?

I know one benefit of solid surface is that they can polish out the joins, so that if you have a large countertop (made with several pieces) it can look seamless.

sometimes it depends on what color you intend your counter top to be. if you are looking for a particular color or effect, not all materials will have what you want.
I'm using Corian white color solid surface for 5 years now. So far okay. It is also much cheaper at around Rm180 pfr (for plain white color) compare to Quartz about 3 times the cost.
My sink is also Corian....so its all one seamless piece of top and sink

I like to try Quartz or Marble the next time.....but the cost.....arrgrggghhh...

This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 15 2012, 08:31 AM

Alright sure... Thanks all

Quartz for only RM190 per ft?? waaa..so cheap..signature kitchen offer quartz brand Silestone from Spain, and it cost about RM400++ per ft. I used solid surface LG Himacs Alpine White RM208 per ft, That the cheapest

This post has been edited by marshmallow82: Dec 31 2012, 04:19 PM

I choose Quartz over Granite. Overall Quartz looks better and is able to handle all types of resistance better. But it's pricey though.
If you have the cash, go for Quartz.

What do you think of this granite piece for kitchen top?

Any supplier for quartz? I need 7.5ft quartz top. Please quote me. Urgent. Thanks.

i'm looking for counter top for 13 feet. solid surface.

any body can recommend contractor ?

hei did u manage find any contractors ?

im still unsure to use solid surface or black granite

any1 heard of this ?

http://solidtop.com.my/#

This post has been edited by conan86: May 13 2015, 05:31 PM

i say, mainly price to performance ratio !

solid surface / acrylic -> about RM140 per foot run

granite -> north of RM250 per foot run.

granite better quality . i think acrylic is ok if you take some basic care. i'm going for acrylic.

If u guys need some contact I can recommend my friend to you guys for the top either solid surface or quartz. They have own factory for solid surface customization.

Is it true that solid counter top is easily scratched and stained? In terms of maintenance, is solid better than melamine or formica? I'm currently using melamine and has no major issue with stains/scratches but then again, mine is dark in color so it may not be so obvious. Contemplating using either quartz or solid for my new hse but quartz is a bit out of my budget.

Quartz has the feel of stone without the downside of maintenance (porous). I went with white Silestone quartz top, and it doesn't stain, scratch or turn yellow unlike my old house which had white solid surface top. The nicest thing is it feels quality - cold like touching stone, solid and non artificial feel when putting plates/cups etc on it.

I asked the different between both before.
Granite - original stone
Quarts - processed stone
Main different is Quartz after processed will become strong in resistent to scratches and more compressed (if you zoom in with microscope you see no gap). Granite is very strong by itself but still prone to scratches. Stone by itself have small gap which cant be see with our bare eyes and this hole will be fill with gems or dirt which we cannot see or clean.

also quartz has the shaping flexibility, while granite is harder for custom cut and it leaves gap for joining long countertop.
concern over rough usage on solid surface is the heat may leave a mark on it, e.g. accidentally place a hot pan/pot...

Hi anyone can introduce me contractor to supply and install quartz counter top. Budget under RM 180pfr? Thanks.

i check before.. and done before.. my carpenter quoted for me.. granite RM130pfr. marble RM 160pfr.. quartz RM 250pfr for casearstone (branded) and RM160 for china quartz...

Rm250pfr for Caesarstone? Cannot be qua? Cheapest I found is Rm380pfr

This post has been edited by idoblu: May 29 2015, 06:23 AM

he told me RM250pfr.. add RM 20pfr for installation.. he said this is best price by him.. he got own factory for carpenter works and marble granite..

Please share your contractor contact. Thanks.

nobody suggest getting ceramic slab instead

As i know verra kitchen only carry this type of top. I'm the one... Heheheh. Easy maitainance

This post has been edited by Mohdnorazman: May 30 2015, 12:06 PM

mine is aswell, also same color with yours, hydra beige, so far so good

Hi

mind to share how much you brought it? And which Series, i saw their website got Cerra, balck forest, etc seires

Thanks a lot

cerra is the ceramic series, my table top is around 4.2k, but keep in mind that's the price i got back in 2012, below is the size





if you're wondering why ceramic over quartz or granite or solid surface, well the video will tell you why



This post has been edited by set: May 31 2015, 07:30 AM

this is what people want - tahan everything
inb4 ar188 says concrete or wood is better

u wan tahan everything u pay for it lor. can't u see that short run cost 4.2k in old 2012 prices?

This is awesomely nice, may I know what's the total damage for the kitchen cabinet(excluding hob, hood, sink, tap)? Done by Verra kitchen right? Thanks

excluding them is around 20k, 2012 price

Ok, I'll forget about it, thanks

lol

hi percheng

wow! price quoted is cheap. is yr contractor in KL? thinking of installing marble counter top for my house in seremban..
may i hv yr contractor's contact details?

thks ya

got quoted 150pfr for Granite, 140pfr for Quartz. good deal? granite from India, light color.

Can u share the vendor that quoted u with that price?

i got the quote from Modern Living, have not engaged them yet. i can pm u the contact tonight

Avoid Quatz, too porous.

I choose black galaxy granite top. ..but after bought black granite sink, it seems dont match since bith black.. chged to solid wood counter top..tahan water?

hi there,
u could try to call or whatsapp him by 0173886962 or 0163386962. LIEW

you dunno what you are talking about
quartz stone is non porous
granite and marble, now thats porous

This post has been edited by idoblu: Oct 21 2015, 07:43 AM

Solid wood top will last long if you maintain it well like paint it every year or so.

lulz, like im first day in industry. Quartz and stone they dont mixed, thats why its very porous. in case u dont know, quartz need chemical to dissolve. where as stone or granite u can use blasting method. nah, free knowledge for u.

Whatever

This post has been edited by idoblu: Oct 21 2015, 10:33 PM

thks percheng

Got a feeling he's confused with the term porous...

people not "first day in the industry" okay.....

Hehe jokes aside, even if one is not in the industry, googling for comparison, safe to say almost all results will show that quartz worktop are non porous.

Both are good, such as Quartz have more choices like color and pattern.

Granite are more natural, but solid wise still granite.
Quartz if accidently chop can be repair as well.

Yes, granite has a slightly more natural look.. while quartz need to pay much more for the 'stone' look series

Quartz is also almost stain proof, while granite needs an impregnator sealant for maintenance.

Granite however is generally cheaper than quartz, unless those quartz made from China then maybe about same pricing

good info..

but granite is heavier than quartz?

granite thickness is about 18-20mm.. where else quartz comes in 12mm, 15mm, 20mm.. so it all depends.

In terms of heaviness.. both are bloody heavy lol. But a lot of sifus have mentioned before that granites are usually tougher and quartz slightly more brittle (during handling and transportation where they have to carry and move the stones around) .. although in my experience on the surface itself during completed works, quartz are more durable. Try using a key and scrub on quartz, it shouldnt scratch, any scratch mark is from the key and can be cleaned off.. where else do that on the granite.. you may get a permanent scratch mark.

noted and thanks

bro, u from this stone industry?

what quartz are you using? branded or china brand?
one thing though, mine is white. i feel like it can stain/dirty easily and after that very difficult to remove

Yah in kitchen cabinetry... so it's related!

Personally using china quartz from 2 years ago.. chose a speckled type with some bling mirror chips embedded. very happy with it. branded back then too expensive still

Yours? Usually if normal white still looks a bit off-white and with some black dots.. not pure white.(only imported brand has pure white range) For quartz, just use those stainless steel wire ball by cosway/amway with CIF, can usually remove all dirts and stain. Quartz even though it's supposed to be stain-proof, wine/coffee/turmeric powder if left on the surface for some time, it will seep in and sometimes not able to remove.

If you are looking granite, marble or quartz, I can intro my fren to you since he is running a factory near my new house and also one of the KS supplier for the worktop. PM me if you r interested but u deal direct with him.

Hi All,

I am also in a dilemma over solid surface or Quartz. I was offered LG HI-Macs which is almost the same price as China quartz.

I like the pure white kitchen top and solid surface seems to look really good. Quartz on the other hand I was told to choose the one with small stones as it hides the joints making it not so obvious.

Quartz is more stain and scratch resistant compared to solid surface. Is this true? For lower maintenance and durability, is Quartz is the better choice?

This post has been edited by Slash21: Nov 19 2015, 11:47 PM

My advise is, if you're okay with joint lines, always go for quartz now. It's way more durable and almost maintenance free. Also almost scratch proof. There are some china quartz supplier that also sells the pure white series, just have to look around. As like anything that is pure white, after some time over the years of usage they will definitely turn slightly yellow, be it solid surface, quartz, spray painted doors, laminate doors etc.

Thanks for the note, and yes leaning towards Quartz for easier maintenance. Reading the effort needed on the internet for solid surface seems like a pain.

On quartz, does it matter if it's going to be Silestone (Branded) or crappy China quartz is good enough? I suppose Quartz in general including China ones do not have problems of staining and scratches?

This post has been edited by Slash21: Nov 20 2015, 10:57 PM

Usually is ok but for stain it depend on the Quartz is it done properly without mirco crack

boss do not recommend Ken anymore. Very irresponsible contractor...

u can come my house witness the mess.

There is a thread for bad contact or can add it there

China quartz generally isn't crappy, guess the only unknown factor is how they make in the China factory. In terms of stain and scratches both China and branded ones are the same. You are only getting branded if you particularly like a range of color that they offer, and also branded ones comes with proper certification that says you can do your work prep on the top itself without needing any board. (Green certain, bacteria free etc) But us Asians generally tend to use a board irregardless of whether the manufacturer say it's safe or not

I took the china quartz, and took my house keys. I scratched with all my strength as hard as I can... grey marks appeared on the quartz. The sales lady then brought it to wash and came back without a scratch on it. It actually scraped metal off my keys.. Scratches could be seen on the LG hi macs solid surface with the same test.

I decided on quartz.

This post has been edited by Slash21: Nov 29 2015, 12:13 AM

well i would choose quartz over granite although granite is slightly cheaper.
Granite emits radiation. May expose urself to unnecessary risks.

http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/2008...cipe-for-danger

Grats on your purchase. hope it turns out well even though it's almost scratch proof, please take note not to drop any sharp objects like screw driver or hammer on the surface, it may cause a small chip hole although under normal usage it's almost impossible for it to happen.. unless you're really unlucky!

pm the contact? thanks

anyone can introduce quartz supplier? looking for making countertop

Subang airport, old road beside the runway... a lot of shops there

I chose Century Stone beside Rattan Decor and Smiling Rock near South Seafood

Better go yourself and talk to them. You'll get a good price.

Hi guys need help

my brand new kitchen granite top having pineapple juice stain after putting the pineapple without the plate and, unrealized that it was over ripen and the juice spread over the counter top.

i tried many means, but can't remove mark/etch.

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I think the juice already sip inside the stone

Tried this?
http://www.howtocleanstuff.net/how-to-remo...te-countertops/

I think can use baking soda and water though unsure if got any other effect..

If is already absorb into the stone than there is no solution

I would avoid painted kitchen top...

Cause paint is chemical... u dont wanna cut something and risk transferring it to your food...

Then again I would avoid cutting stuff on granite/quartz top as well.. spoil your nice/expensive knife..

Mind to share the price you got for your Quartz?

i went there and it is super expensive at rm300 per foot run. avoid them, can try the other shops along the old subang airport road

rm130 for the china one

i believe you've been quoted for the Australia one

of course it is expensive

Whr u got the quote from?

I got the quote from jess stone and it is about rm220/fr

Called the stone guy, they removed the stain by polishing with some wax stuff like this

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Century Stone supplies both china and others better quartz?