Wow, Sterling got called up for England as an emergency replacement. Wonder what happened to "we must nurture Raheem"

I'm so getting this. How Rafa got dethroned by WOY will always remain as one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of the world.

Fark off FA!..to think hodgson will coach him make it worse

More like a move from English FA to tie up Sterling in case Jamaica come poaching...Ewww

#dislike

I prefer him playing for England rather than Jamaica. Of course I'm a fan of England too. But Liverpool first, England second.

defending pepe eh?
look at it this way... keepers dont really need to run as much, hence they have the most energy reserve and should always have maximum concentration when called upon. for someone that stands most of the time... dont you think its quite questionable when a keeper cant perform when needed? the whole team can play the best football but one error from a keeper it can undo all the good work the team has put forward

how many times had you felt that pepe had let the team down? i think a few times last season i actually felt that way

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Added on September 10, 2012, 11:20 pmme too. england... always overhyoed but short on delivery.

This post has been edited by Petre: Sep 10 2012, 11:20 PM

maybe roy wants to take some credit (of rise of raheem)

i don't know, england is looking for another micheal owen to break from the ranks, they think they can pull (steal) a rabbit out from the jamaican watch. though who would turn down the 3 lion's (england) call. I do however feel BR should send this displeasure to Roy.




raheem might be born in jamaica but i don't know his parent's nationalities. they could be from UK though.


edit. ok, i guess this ends all speculation.


This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 11 2012, 01:50 AM

Henderson, Shelvey and Kelly starts for England U21 against Norway.

http://www.vipboxsports.eu/watch/71582/1/e...eam-online.html

heard our new boy Samed Yasil scored again.

someone told he not ready yet before

Anyone heard of Conor Masterson?

Apparently we have signed this 13 y/o kid for €1m. That's a huge amount!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...n-16192032.html

This post has been edited by Yluxion: Sep 11 2012, 08:39 AM

Yup. Whizz kid. But too young to judge. Remember Freddy Adu when he was 13 - The future star of American Soccer? Now he has drop out of limelight and he went back to MLS.

Anyway, it's crazy to pay so much for a kid just because we are competing with Scum Utd and Chelsea

i want to get it.. but which one u guys prefer? online order or wait till it arrive at kinokuniya?

I forget I read from whr, but as I knw, Raheem personally would prefer to select England, however, his mom wants him to represent Jamaica.

I know that many still side Benitez but as a die hard Liverpool fan, I think Benitez gets too much credit than he deserves. Yes, he won us the Champs League and FA Cup and came a close second but it is also more often than not that Stevie G carried us through alone. Most of his "signings" failed to live up to the expectations and didn't really add anything to the team. Granted those handful of his "signings" performed, even then we still relied heavily on Gerrard and his tactics sometimes were too negative. I feel he spent way too much money on way too many players that ultimately led to this whole incident referred to by him. I know of fans who seem to forget that he spent a lot on players that ultimately we don't even remember (i.e. Josemi, Nunez, Morientes, Sissoko, Gonzalez and the list goes on). He spent a total of 226m and 76 players. Of all 76, it is safe to say that only 10 really helped the team play better. Not saying he's shit but he has to take as much of the blame as G&H.

Funny how you'd neglect the recoup part. He spent a LOT, that's depend on perspective. BUT he DID recoup a LOT as well. So it's not like his spending outstrip the recoup by miles.
Why don't you dwelled on why he spent on a Nunez instead of a Dani Alves, on Ngog instead of Jovetic. When you'd realised that, you'll know why he'd spend so MUCH for so many players that he later shipped out in your context

Our defensive back bone up until today still RB's signings. Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel & Lucas.

Apart from Reina, the rest are young when they join us and look what they have become now.

Anyway, here is the summary transfer dealings of Rafa era's. Net spend of a little over 78m in his 6 years reign. Average of 13m per season. Is that overspending?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...-Liverpool.html

This post has been edited by Yluxion: Sep 11 2012, 01:08 PM

I know he recouped back some amount as well but what I'm saying is that fans shouldn't be so quick to pin the blame on others. As mentioned earlier, I'm not saying that he is shit or a bad manager because everyone makes mistake. I just find it a little bit unfair for people to constantly criticize the owners or directors when he has as much fault in his own departure. Although he recouped money back, you also have to see that he was the reason for Alonso leaving who is arguably one of the best midfielders in the game. I mean, he wanted to ship Alonso out for Barry and Keane and honestly, that was a bad move. Although Alonso didn't get shipped out but eventually he felt like he wasn't wanted and left anyway. I'm not comparing his signings with the likes of world class but don't you think he should have brought in some better quality players instead with the money he spent. Some of the players he brought in, we never even saw in the first team right till they left.

Again, just wanna make it clear that I'm not saying he is entirely at fault for him leaving but instead of him going on about how the previous owners didn't give enough money, he should also see that he was also partly at fault for spending so much and not even having a quarter of those players performing well.

If you wanna take this the wrong way then I can't help it also but there's always two sides to a coin and I feel we shouldn't be so quick to blame it on the owners and directors. After all, we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. My stance is simple. He did help us achieve certain things and I respect him for that but at the same time fans are giving him too much credit (he deserves some but not as much as some fans having to say that he was the best manager we had in the last decade).

Anyone that puts a star on the Liverpool's crest deserves all the plaudit that he gets. No offense but it's ludicrous to suggests that it was all down to Gerrard. So Rafa gets no credit for moving Gerrard to right, against all popular view - that ended up seeing him scoring over 20 goals ? How about the time when he shifted him behind the striker, and unleashing one of the most potent striking partners in the league ? I

To say it was all Gerrard is not only disrespectful to the manager, it's downright insulting to his ex-teammates i.e. Xabi, Mascherano, Garcia, Torres etc. They all played their part in putting this club back to where it belongs - competing valiantly in European football. I suppose the defense that helped Reina winning back to back golden glove has nothing to do with it either. People can pull out the numbers out of the hat, but nothing can take away the fact that it was under Rafa (bar the last season) that Liverpool FC were consistently competitive in modern football. That's the very least one should expect from any manager, and even then 2 managers who succeeded him have failed to reconstruct the competitive edge that Rafa's Liverpool's team had.

He's a tactical genius when it comes to using the limited resources that we have. If he were to manage Liverpool again, I am positive he would get us better result in short term and maybe even closer to top 4 but we wont be playing the type of football that make us proud in the 70s or 80s. Many nail biting moments but he will get us the right result.

But he is not good in scouting for talents. That has been the obvious weakness in most Liverpool managers, not just Rafa. Only Shanks, Paisley, Fagan and King (During the late 80s) have done well in this area.

I also think that his failure in Inter was the failure to gain control of the dressing room but unfortunately that has undermined his talent as a manager especially when people keep comparing the success of Mourinho before him.

I wont say that I enjoy Rafa's type of football except the 2008 second half season. BR however is bringing a different philosophy and playing the type of football I like (So does King before FSG got rid of him). So I pray that he is successful so that we can enjoy football and also get the right result. I dislike the way a team defending their lives for 90 mins and count on a few lucky breaks to get a result.