I watched most of the matches last season, banging my sofa and table till it is almost broken. While I agree we played well on most occasions and were unlucky, I have to disagree with the Downing part. He was predictable and he keeps losing possession easily by trying too much. His crosses were nowhere near the targeted players most of the time and he scoffed his shots like rugby.

As what I said last season, Downing is drowning the team.

and i died everytime we hit the woodwork...which if converted, we wouldve finish waaayy better on d table.

the final 3rd especially.....i always sakit jantung there liao...very little style...up to there our fronts most of the time dunno wut to do...and end up wasted 

gerrard pass ------> torres first touch goal is very much missed

I snapped! I threw the pillow to the TV, bang the sofa and the table, shouted my lungs out, my neighbor thought i got robbed. Too many times hitting the woodwork. I could not believe my eyes. We were record breaker for the wrong reason.

If only Downing shot against Sunderland last season had gone in, we wouldn't be treating him like this.

Many judge players on stats, yes he had no goals, yes he had no assists but that doesn't tell you the whole story. Sometimes my friends/relatives said "Downing?dah ade assist blum?" , when he scored against Gomel "eh Downing score?" , I feel like I want to smack them in the head.

here is a fact :
- Stewart Downing created the most chances for team mates without recording a single assist in the premier league at 55.

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Added on September 5, 2012, 2:07 pmsome said a winger need to be able to beat his man, well did Beckham beat man after man?NO.

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Added on September 5, 2012, 2:10 pmanother thing, people are quick to blame Downing because of his price tag. "Downing for 20m with no assist no goal?waste of money" . Its not his fault, same as Carroll.

so much about this thing called luck...
it keeps me wondering...

if a striker often hits wide, just wide, and lets say half of these shots went wide after hitting post...

do you see the striker unlucky, or just plain blunt?

did van persie had a lot of luck?

i wonder

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Added on September 5, 2012, 2:34 pm

uh... no people, dun cross? 

good crosses are not just about where they land, but is also about whether its possible for anyone to attack it, the timing etc. how many of downing's crosses are actually good enough to benefit the team? if he crossed the best cross into the box but no team mate could have reached it, then too bad. its a good cross bad timing, still its called a useless cross... its akin to like the fastest smash in the world but gone wide. still useless...

the red part i know la   

but who can he expect to attack the crosses? carroll? suarez? kuyt...? as i remember we dont exactly have a physical frontline...

one trick pony just one trick pony... how is he doing as a LB? i worry. takmaulah defend also kenot, but at least i see him work hard.

His crosses are quite good if you at it artistically. The ball crossing at that length, it is a beautiful view. The only problem is, he either crosses when there's no player in the box or he overshoot it pass the players. If 6'4 Andy Caroll cant meet his crosses, I think only Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson can.

And he's so easy to defend against. He's always gonna carry the ball straight forward, no trickery, just plainly lightweight pace and predictable direction. He's one of those that I would say have physical gift as a footballer but doesnt possess a footballing brain.

Bottom line is, he's crap.

PS - Thank God, he's not bad looking, or else I will do some "Yo, Mama is fat" jokes on him. Kinda piss with this guy.

well just be fair, Downing could be good for someone else but so far, he's crap for us... not made for each other. perhaps next life...

then why exacrly did we buy him for? 
dude, i still wanna see us lifting league trophy, dun so fast talk about next life lah 

So who did he discard and leave the position vacant? Andy Carroll was only discarded because he was promised a replacement would be brought in and John Henry has since admitted someone up there screwed up. I've never heard anything about selling Downing. As for Jordan Henderson, Stoke made an enquiry about him and was dismissed. He was then according to rumours used as a makeweight for Dempsey so its not exactly discarding and leaving the position vacant is it? Our midfield is packed with Gerrard, Allen, Sahin, Shelvey, and Lucas!

Interesting...
Man Utd wants to limit Man City spending power
Creative ways round fair play

So out of the expensive pieces you have listed, who was actually sold?

NONE.

BR has stated had he knew he wouldn't get the 1-2 signings he was expecting, he wouldn't have let AC out on loan. It wasn't his fault that somebody above him botched this up. Get your facts right before you criticise.

All that is left for Yesil to do is to say "Steady" and he is in the 1st team. Say "steady" Yesil! Say "Steady"

You should complete the whole conversation, buddy.

BR :  :You need to change your attitude!! 
Yesil : Stetig...stetig
BR :  Whatdick? You said "whatdick" one more time, you'll be on the first plane back to Berlin!
Yesil: 
BR: Yesil! You said "whatdick, Yesil. You said it.
Yesil: 

shit i cant hold myself from giving opinions.. although they are no more than just 2 cents lol

if wanna implement FFP, all clubs should start equal. if not what fair in financial fair play? i still think just let economics work themselves. if any club wanna risk being history, its their own doing. i think thats fair enough

It will come to a point when there is a need to control player's wages. It's getting ridiculous - player's wages and transfer fee. Inflation may soon destroy football.

I'm not saying you, buddy. I was reading comments from people in Liverpool news site saying sell Pepe and get another keeper. It's ridiculous.

I know that many still side Benitez but as a die hard Liverpool fan, I think Benitez gets too much credit than he deserves. Yes, he won us the Champs League and FA Cup and came a close second but it is also more often than not that Stevie G carried us through alone. Most of his "signings" failed to live up to the expectations and didn't really add anything to the team. Granted those handful of his "signings" performed, even then we still relied heavily on Gerrard and his tactics sometimes were too negative. I feel he spent way too much money on way too many players that ultimately led to this whole incident referred to by him. I know of fans who seem to forget that he spent a lot on players that ultimately we don't even remember (i.e. Josemi, Nunez, Morientes, Sissoko, Gonzalez and the list goes on). He spent a total of 226m and 76 players. Of all 76, it is safe to say that only 10 really helped the team play better. Not saying he's shit but he has to take as much of the blame as G&H.

Again, not my point. I'm just saying that he shouldn't keep blaming the ex-owners and also fans should stop defending him like he has never done anything wrong at Anfield. Like I said, I don't think he is a bad manager and I don't dislike him either. I'm just sick of hearing him saying that he didn't get enough money and whatnot. I think he should just move on and focus on his current position and we as fans should also stop focusing on the past.

Don't get me wrong, the team definitely contributed altogether but again, maybe we would be much better if the money spent was spent on better players instead of bringing a host of below-average players. I'm merely suggesting that we look at both sides and remain a neutral on this matter as we don't know the full story and just move on from this.

Constantly debating about who's right or wrong is pointless. Just like a break-up, both parties are always at fault no matter how small the fault so I'm just saying he had some fault for his departure as well and it's not entirely the fault of the ex-owners and directors. So maybe fans should stop blaming it all on the ex-owners.

Yup. 1987, the year I discovered my love for Liverpool due to my dad's influence.
And then ever since 1990, I have been suffering heartbreak after heartbreak and still waiting for our 19th.