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post Sep 4 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Sep 4 2012, 05:11 PM)
But did the club acted behind BR's back ? That's the big question here. It's all fine that we needed to conduct ourselves based on principles but the game changed when we loaned Carroll out. The prudent thing, regardless of principle, was to find a replacement. There had to be a compromise from the board. And who's idea was it to use Hendo as a sweetener? It sounds ridiculous that we needed to get rid off 2 players (whos fees were over 50mil combined) in order to get one in, and it's only Dempsey we're talking about here. And if getting rid of Carroll was to sort out our cashflow, then what would have happen if we did end up signing Dempsey ? Surely it would all even out. Something doesn't add up.
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Rumoured that we only offered 3 mil for Dempsey. I guess FSG is sticking with their system no matter what.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:54 PM

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Just finished a good read of this article.

Vision On: Why Rodgers Needs Time...
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post Sep 6 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 6 2012, 09:20 AM)
Last season's signings were full of fail? Nah, it is the way we handled them.

AC, 30 million wasn't it? Lacked confidence, but improved and was on his way to regain his form towards the end of the season. Played and scored for England too at the Euro's no?

This season, discarded and loaned out.

JH, widely reported to cost 20 million. Hailed as one of the best players in Sunderland and a promising talent all round. Played out of position all season. Most likely intimidated by huge signing fee.

This season, used or tried to be used as a makeweight to sign someone of lesser monetary value.

SD, 20 million iirc. Delivered what he was bought for. Sadly the 0 goals and 0 assists stat line makes him an easy target although everyone conveniently forgets that he created 55 chances.

This season, was put on the 'for sale' bin all season.

Oh ok, getting rid of CA i'm okay with. sweat.gif

I'd say it here out loud.

So far, to me Brendon Rodgers has proven himself to be no more than a class A Idiot. Is this management? You discard all your expensive pieces  cheaply just because they do not fit you system? Stupid.

My bookeeper is not up to scratch. Do i keep him around until it is confirmed that I have secured a replacement or do I get rid of him now and leave the position vacant? Who then manages the books for me?

You were hired to make the most of our limited resources. Period.
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The offer we got from West Ham is a good deal IMO. I'm not sure we'll be getting any better offer than this. Provided West Ham avoids relegation at the end of the season, it's a good 2m + 17m of money we can use for season 13/14. It's all about balancing the accounts and recouping losses in this case. If not of such heavy transfer fee and wages tag on AC, I'm sure BR would be happy to keep him as our "Plan B".

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 6 2012, 10:38 AM)
Oh just to clarify, when i say discarded i don't mean benched. I mean unwanted, put on the trade block.

I speak from experience really. When i came into the company i am currently at a year ago, we promptly got rid of an underperforming staff member in one of the departments. We have yet to be able to find a proper replacement for her, and things are still kinda FUBAR there.

I contrast, for the second department i had to revamp, there were a number of underperforming peeps. Didn't take the 'you suck, get lost' approach this time round, and took the time to come up with a system that best suits their strengths and abilities. Trained them, coached them, cajoled them buggers. It wasn't easy, and things still aren't as smooth as I want it to ultimately be, but it's still better than the first department. Replacing the parts imho is a cop out.
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Isn't BR doing what you said on the last part? hmm.gif

The first department sounds like Liverpool of last season. laugh.gif

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post Sep 7 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Sep 7 2012, 04:20 PM)
Brendan Rodgers interview




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50 min of interview feel so short. thumbup.gif

Thought, I hope the discussion of tactics he's trying to play is a one off thing, or else he'll be giving away too many information to the public.
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post Sep 11 2012, 08:35 AM

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Anyone heard of Conor Masterson?

Apparently we have signed this 13 y/o kid for €1m. That's a huge amount!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...n-16192032.html

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post Sep 11 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(keith.hmc @ Sep 11 2012, 12:22 PM)
I know that many still side Benitez but as a die hard Liverpool fan, I think Benitez gets too much credit than he deserves. Yes, he won us the Champs League and FA Cup and came a close second but it is also more often than not that Stevie G carried us through alone. Most of his "signings" failed to live up to the expectations and didn't really add anything to the team. Granted those handful of his "signings" performed, even then we still relied heavily on Gerrard and his tactics sometimes were too negative. I feel he spent way too much money on way too many players that ultimately led to this whole incident referred to by him. I know of fans who seem to forget that he spent a lot on players that ultimately we don't even remember (i.e. Josemi, Nunez, Morientes, Sissoko, Gonzalez and the list goes on). He spent a total of 226m and 76 players. Of all 76, it is safe to say that only 10 really helped the team play better. Not saying he's shit but he has to take as much of the blame as G&H.
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Our defensive back bone up until today still RB's signings. Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel & Lucas.

Apart from Reina, the rest are young when they join us and look what they have become now.

Anyway, here is the summary transfer dealings of Rafa era's. Net spend of a little over 78m in his 6 years reign. Average of 13m per season. Is that overspending? hmm.gif rclxub.gif
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...-Liverpool.html

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post Sep 14 2012, 03:23 PM

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I started supporting Liverpool during the 1998 World Cup in France when Michael Owen scored a wonder goal against Argentina.

I've follow him since then which leads me to become a Liverpool supporter. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 14 2012, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(murishige @ Sep 14 2012, 09:06 PM)
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Being Liverpool : 1st episode
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nice share! rclxms.gif
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post Sep 15 2012, 01:51 AM

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The youtube link has been removed due to copyright.

Took me awhile of searching to get this alternative link.
http://vimeo.com/49443761#

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post Sep 16 2012, 01:37 AM

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motha facker.... hit the bar

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post Sep 16 2012, 01:57 AM

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YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!

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post Sep 16 2012, 01:58 AM

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we deserved that goal!
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post Sep 16 2012, 02:06 AM

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fark! that was close!
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post Sep 16 2012, 02:32 AM

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good game. Wave and wave of attacks...

i think it's a good decision that play our passing game much higher on opponent field in 2nd half and terrorizing the opponent box.


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Dropping Gerrard deeper and let Shelvey occupy a more advance role is a good move IMO.

Overall, I'm pleased with our today performance. We play offensive football and press Sunderland real hard at Stadium of Light. Just need to cut those silly defensive mistakes.

If Sterling & Shelvey continue to give such consistent performance. I can see them starting every PL games for us.





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QUOTE(reehdus @ Sep 16 2012, 11:55 AM)
Agreed, watching the match yesterday I have a few positives/negatives I noticed in the play:

1. Johnson and Sterling, arguably our best players yesterday, yet I feel Johnson would better serve as a winger with less defensive responsibilities. Definitely better in my opinion than Downing, but I dunno how he compares to Assaidi or Sahin. Perhaps when Enrique and Kelly are available, play them both with Johnson and Sterling?
2. Reina was a bit shaky again, and some may say he was to blame for the goal.\
3. Suarez going to ground too often is going to cement his bad image even further and probably result in less calls being given for Liverpool rather than against.
4. Possession - we have to start making more important passes. There's no use having so much possession if 2/3 of it is in your defensive 3rd.
5. Lack of a finisher. We all know this. Put in Yesil or Morgan perhaps?
6. Gerrard missing passes - I don't know what to say about this...have Gerrard as a winger and play Sterling inside? Sterling has had success on the wing, but it would be interesting to see him play off the front man.
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In yesterday game, I can see Suarez reduce the amount of fouls fishing and complaining that he so used to do which I think will do us and himself a favour. Cut those fake acting off and focus on playing football.
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QUOTE(kcmy @ Sep 17 2012, 12:34 AM)
Haih,why can't our scout scouted someone like alex buttner who,is a defender,dribble like a midfielder and can score like a striker?
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you see what you wanna see. Though I think Buttner is a good buy, but still too early to talk highly of him with just 1 good game.

Do you know we scouted & brings in Sterling & Shelvey at their tender age? There is Yesil as well. It's not like our scouts bring in all craps & MU scouts get all the goods.


Added on September 17, 2012, 1:09 amAnyway, I'm looking forward to see Assaidi making his debut on our Europa match. Expecting Henderson & Sahin comes in for Gerrard & Allen.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 17 2012, 11:45 AM)
Talk only, but when come to real test, situation may not as same as talk.

After 8-10 matches and still no win or win 1 or 2 only, and languish at 16th, only then we can see how real report will be.


Added on September 17, 2012, 11:48 am

The team need striker that can make decisive shot, like Berbatov.
A striker who can make a header goal, a striker that can pop up to make a tap in, like Kyut's goals in the 3-0 win against MU.

Just like Sunderland goal.

You do not need tiki taka, slick passing before a goal is scored, sometimes, make it direct and simple.
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I'm expecting us to crawl up the league on our 6th league game, and the December fixtures as well if we got no major injury of our key players.

Let's see where we stand on the turn of 2013.
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post Sep 20 2012, 04:52 PM

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Astro Ch. 817 or 831 (HD)
21/09/12 01:00 Live
Young Boys vs Liverpool

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