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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 1-2 ManU

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post Sep 10 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 10 2012, 01:14 AM)
The problem is will Marc-André ter Stegen settle for number 2 when he can play more games and probably get a call up to senior squad soon if he continue to impress in his current club.
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he'll most probably get his chance ahead of pepe now after all his doodoos
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Sep 10 2012, 03:53 AM)
he'll most probably get his chance ahead of pepe now after all his doodoos
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No point in having two no.1's la. Someone has to give.

Here's a bloke I've been eyeing for some years now but because he plays in France, I hardly get to watch him. He played for Mexico recently which reminded me of him. This videos a little old but it gives you some idea why clubs like Arsenal and Man Utd were rumored to be interested recently. Mexico's Guillermo Ochoa!



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Pepe is written off by many after a few games of under performance forgetting the fact he made many important saves prior to making mistakes.

I remember last season, many people were saying "Sell Jonjo Shelvey" after he under performed and now suddenly people said he has the potential to be as good as Gerrard.

Too emotional and always jumping to the conclusion doesnt help. After 3 games, we press the panic button. Absolutely immature.

Remember Arsenal last season? After few matches, it was all doom and gloom and then what happened? They ended the season on 3rd spot.

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post Sep 10 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 10 2012, 09:59 AM)
No point in having two no.1's la. Someone has to give.

Here's a bloke I've been eyeing for some years now but because he plays in France, I hardly get to watch him. He played for Mexico recently which reminded me of him. This videos a little old but it gives you some idea why clubs like Arsenal and Man Utd were rumored to be interested recently. Mexico's Guillermo Ochoa!


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Nice compilation...but most are saves of shots from afar....wonder whats he like with one on ones?


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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 10 2012, 10:24 AM)
Pepe is written off by many after a few games of under performance forgetting the fact he made many important saves prior to making mistakes.

I remember last season, many people were saying "Sell Jonjo Shelvey" after he under performed and now suddenly people said he has the potential to be as good as Gerrard.

Too emotional and always jumping to the conclusion doesnt help. After 3 games, we press the panic button. Absolutely immature.

Remember Arsenal last season? After few matches, it was all doom and gloom and then what happened? They ended the season on 3rd spot.
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Methinks its more than 3 games....since last season, his form has been in question.....but point is he has no competition in our reserve keepers.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 10 2012, 10:41 AM)
Nice compilation...but most are saves of shots from afar....wonder whats he like with one on ones?


Added on September 10, 2012, 10:43 am
Methinks its more than 3 games....since last season, his form has been in question.....but point is he has no competition in our reserve keepers.
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Last season, many players under performed , not just Pepe and the team morale was low. This season we started slow, but if you watch all 3 games again and again like me, you can see how many important saves he did during the matches and we really didnt play poorly. In fact, many movements were brilliant. It will start to click and the goals will come and Pepe will make a big contribution.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 10 2012, 10:24 AM)
Pepe is written off by many after a few games of under performance forgetting the fact he made many important saves prior to making mistakes.

I remember last season, many people were saying "Sell Jonjo Shelvey" after he under performed and now suddenly people said he has the potential to be as good as Gerrard.

Too emotional and always jumping to the conclusion doesnt help. After 3 games, we press the panic button. Absolutely immature.

Remember Arsenal last season? After few matches, it was all doom and gloom and then what happened? They ended the season on 3rd spot.
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Same treatment for the managers. Plenty of impatient fans out there. If we are not in the top half by November I assure you there will be fans calling for BR's head

Currently me thinks the team is performing decently. The defence certainly has to buck up, though. We haven't had a clean sheet in the league yet. Gone are the days under RB where we didn't concede more than 30 in a season. More clean sheets + better finishing + a little luck = more points on the board

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post Sep 10 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 10 2012, 11:11 AM)
Same treatment for the managers. Plenty of impatient fans out there. If we are not in the top half by November I assure you there will be fans calling for BR's head
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Impatient? We are Liverpool, not Swansea, our target is actually getting a place for a champions league and not battling a place from the relegation spot.


When we are top half of the table and then someone called for BR to be sacked that is what I called impatient.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 10 2012, 11:11 AM)
Same treatment for the managers. Plenty of impatient fans out there. If we are not in the top half by November I assure you there will be fans calling for BR's head
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This is why no great managers want to consider themselves available for the job. Team with low morale, limited funds, impatient owner and even more impatient fans. You walk in to an environment where people want you to perform miracle from day 1.

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QUOTE(melt @ Sep 10 2012, 11:21 AM)
Impatient? We are Liverpool, not Swansea, our target is actually getting a place for a champions league and not battling a place from the relegation spot.
When we are top half of the table and then someone called for BR to be sacked that is what I called impatient.
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Err...I never said we shouldn't be battling for a CL spot. All I'm saying is there are a lot of fans out there who thinks BR has a magic wand. With a new manager who's trying to instill a new playing style and with a shortage of proven forwards (until January at least) there are still ppl who expect top 4 in May 2013. Not wrong to be ambitious and optimistic but gotta be a tad more realistic too.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 10 2012, 10:24 AM)
Pepe is written off by many after a few games of under performance forgetting the fact he made many important saves prior to making mistakes.

I remember last season, many people were saying "Sell Jonjo Shelvey" after he under performed and now suddenly people said he has the potential to be as good as Gerrard.

Too emotional and always jumping to the conclusion doesnt help. After 3 games, we press the panic button. Absolutely immature.

Remember Arsenal last season? After few matches, it was all doom and gloom and then what happened? They ended the season on 3rd spot.
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Nah I don't think I'm writing off Pepe, I'm just saying that he needs to good no.2 to give him some competition. It says something that appearances from Doni and Jones as as frequent as Haley's comet. Pepe is underrated as a keeper because people only judge him based on the saves he makes, or doesn't. Not enough attention is given to how good he is at defusing threats before they occur, by rushing off his line, prompting the term, "sweeper - keeper". Having said that we should be looking at a good deputy that can at least feature during cup games. Every player suffers from match fatigue and needs a break every now and then.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 10 2012, 11:57 AM)
Nah I don't think I'm writing off Pepe, I'm just saying that he needs to good no.2 to give him some competition. It says something that appearances from Doni and Jones as as frequent as Haley's comet. Pepe is underrated as a keeper because people only judge him based on the saves he makes, or doesn't. Not enough attention is given to how good he is at defusing threats before they occur, by rushing off his line, prompting the term, "sweeper - keeper". Having said that we should be looking at a good deputy that can at least feature during cup games. Every player suffers from match fatigue and needs a break every now and then.
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I'm not saying you, buddy. I was reading comments from people in Liverpool news site saying sell Pepe and get another keeper. It's ridiculous.
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post Sep 10 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 10 2012, 11:59 AM)
I'm not saying you, buddy. I was reading comments from people in Liverpool news site saying sell Pepe and get another keeper. It's ridiculous.
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we'll take years to find a reliable numero uno based on past experience. After Grobbelaar, we went thru James, Westerweld, Dudek, Kirkland, Carson & finally got Reina. Thats like after 15 years only we got a great keeper. In each case we thought we got the real deal only to have suspect keeper around.
same thing we're going thru with Torres replacement now. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(vreis @ Sep 10 2012, 02:04 PM)
we'll take years to find a reliable numero uno based on past experience. After Grobbelaar, we went thru James, Westerweld, Dudek, Kirkland, Carson & finally got Reina. Thats like after 15 years only we got a great keeper. In each case we thought we got the real deal only to have suspect keeper around.
same thing we're going thru with Torres replacement now.  shakehead.gif
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Not if we have Harry Redknapp as Chief Scout. He seems to be very capable of spotting talents and motivating them to fit in. Hopefully BR can do the same.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Sep 10 2012, 01:44 AM)
Should be interesting this. I wonder if he touches on his alleged '12 players' goof during the halftime teamtalk.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 10 2012, 11:57 AM)
Nah I don't think I'm writing off Pepe, I'm just saying that he needs to good no.2 to give him some competition. It says something that appearances from Doni and Jones as as frequent as Haley's comet. Pepe is underrated as a keeper because people only judge him based on the saves he makes, or doesn't. Not enough attention is given to how good he is at defusing threats before they occur, by rushing off his line, prompting the term, "sweeper - keeper". Having said that we should be looking at a good deputy that can at least feature during cup games. Every player suffers from match fatigue and needs a break every now and then.
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Yup someone young to give him a kick up his butt. Like how United rotates De Gea and Lindegaard. Like how Chelsea bought a young one in Courtois as a long term replacement for Cech and loaned him out to give him game time while Cech is still their no.1. The goalkeeper spot is the hardest position to fill imo, most clubs often find it hard to get a quality keeper in between the sticks. United struggled for years since Schmeichel, Arsenal since Seaman, and us since Grobbelaar. We have to start looking because we will have to replace Pepe eventually. A dependable keeper in between the sticks can make a world of difference, before Reina's arrival, I remember having a heart attack every time Dudek is forced to make a save.
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When it comes to goalkeeping, for the weirdest of reasons our Academy hasn't produced any (well, in academy our keepers are really leaky, so to speak).

Are we linked to anyone? Because somehow in the interview BR73 did with The Anfield Wrap, he praised Vorm very much. I'm thinking if he's trying to convert Reina into another Vorm (i don't really mind, but Reina's top ability was the lightning throw-to-striker counter)


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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 10 2012, 10:24 AM)
Remember Arsenal last season? After few matches, it was all doom and gloom and then what happened? They ended the season on 3rd spot.
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for the longest time, we have not shown we have the kind of spirit Arsenal do. we hit a bad patch, that will go on for quarter season and by then we have fallen too far off.

hard to judge only after 3 game. given the past season how we do, Arsenal performance been great compared to us but Arsenal fan patience growing thin with the lack of trophy. it's all relative but one constant is fans sure are impatience.

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