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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 1-2 ManU

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post Sep 19 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
I miss the Riise in his prime, not the one we sold, maybe it's just me but I can certainly understand why Rafa sold him. What I don't understand is that position has never really been filled since he left. Dossena came and go like the wind. I thought Insua was pretty decent, don't know why we sold him, would've done well as a backup if not a starter.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
Probably perhaps RvP was never played as a main striker spearheading an attack till last season. He has been playing as a winger/supporting striker his entire career. Always thought he is a very good player and would have scored lots of goals even as a supporting striker if not for his injuries.

I miss the Riise in his prime, not the one we sold, maybe it's just me but I can certainly understand why Rafa sold him. What I don't understand is that position has never really been filled since he left. Dossena came and go like the wind. I thought Insua was pretty decent, don't know why we sold him, would've done well as a backup if not a starter.
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 19 2012, 11:17 AM)
Yes and no depending on how you look at it. He has a Champions League medal. If he had stayed, he'd only have won a League Cup. That being said, I miss the Torres bounce and chant. One of the coolest in recent history.
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If he wins the League Cup with us, he's the main hero. People in the city worship him. He wins Champions League with Chelsea but he's just an added cast. People dont remember him playing a big part at all. They will however remember how he lost his temper at Roberto Di Matteo when he was not selected for the penalty shootout vs Bayern. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:46 AM

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arbeloa bought to deal with barca and he did superb.
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:38 AM)
Contrary to popular belief, he isn't exactly a backup bench player at Madrid. Mourinho highly values his work rate, consistency and ability to play on both sides. He was at first predominantly used as a rotation player for both Ramos and Marcelo but no longer. Now with Ramos and Pepe at centre back, Arbeloa is a first team regular right back for Madrid. He even made Spain's first 11 with Puyol out with Ramos and Pique at centre back.
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Actually he's bought as back up then. Nothing more nothing less. Just his luck that Ramos shifted to CB & there's opening in RB. Credit to him for taking the chance with both hands. Same goes for Spain.
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Sep 19 2012, 11:48 AM)
Actually he's bought as back up then. Nothing more nothing less. Just his luck that Ramos shifted to CB & there's opening in RB. Credit to him for taking the chance with both hands. Same goes for Spain.
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He was brought in as a utility player, didn't he play LB for a significant amount of games for Madrid?
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 19 2012, 11:53 AM)
He was brought in as a utility player, didn't he play LB for a significant amount of games for Madrid?
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yes, whenever the first choice LB/RB is not available. Point is he's nvr brought in as first choice. Though he wanting to go back RM & a RM academy graduate plays a part. Can't help thinking back in those days, RM seems obsessed with local talents as well, seeing they also bought back Negredo, Granero & few others hmm.gif
Maybe they butthurt Barca got many academy grads on their first team & winning???
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post Sep 19 2012, 01:17 PM

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Sory to ask again..
Astro live liverpool vs yb?
What time arr
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Huntelaar as the quick fix?

http://www.cleansheetsallround.co.uk/2012/...ntelaar-signing?

I guess at this point, someone is better than no one.
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post Sep 19 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 01:51 PM)
Huntelaar as the quick fix?

http://www.cleansheetsallround.co.uk/2012/...ntelaar-signing?

I guess at this point, someone is better than no one.
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He only scores goals in lesser leagues. A proven big league flop, no thanks! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 19 2012, 02:10 PM)
He only scores goals in lesser leagues. A proven big league flop, no thanks! biggrin.gif
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My thought as well. But if he comes cheap, then it's better than no one in January. I still prefer Llorente. I dont think Llorente or Hunterlaar will be more than $8m since they are in their final year of contract.

Or else, get both biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kunimitsu @ Sep 19 2012, 01:17 PM)
Sory to ask again..
Astro live liverpool vs yb?
What time arr
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1am, tomorrow if not mistaken........not tonight
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post Sep 19 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(lfcreds91 @ Sep 19 2012, 02:22 PM)
1am, tomorrow if not mistaken........not tonight
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Thursday nite/ Friday morning.

btw, Mourinho's celebration of C7's goal was superb this morning. thumbup.gif

such classic act , BR should do it if we best scumsterU this weekend
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post Sep 19 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 02:13 PM)
My thought as well. But if he comes cheap, then it's better than no one in January. I still prefer Llorente. I dont think Llorente or Hunterlaar will be more than $8m since they are in their final year of contract.

Or else, get both biggrin.gif
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Same here Llorente is much better between the 2 though if Llorente costs more than 20m, youngsters please! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 19 2012, 03:05 PM)
Same here Llorente is much better between the 2 though if Llorente costs more than 20m, youngsters please! rclxms.gif
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He will not cost $20m. Who wants to pay that much for a player with 6 more months left in January in his contract and can go off as free agent next season? Plus, dont forget, Llorente can reject the offers and wait to be a free agent. The club have no choice but to accept any offers even if it's $5m or $6m. It's either that or nothing.

So I hope Brenny will not leave it too late again. No more last day drama please.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 03:21 PM)
He will not cost $20m. Who wants to pay that much for a player with 6 more months left in January in his contract and can go off as free agent next season? Plus, dont forget, Llorente can reject the offers and wait to be a free agent. The club have no choice but to accept any offers even if it's $5m or $6m. It's either that or nothing.

So I hope Brenny will not leave it too late again. No more last day drama please.
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but the problem is will llorente wanted to sign for us or not, since his contract is almost expired im sure alot of clubs will be monitoring him..
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Sep 19 2012, 03:24 PM)
but the problem is will llorente wanted to sign for us or not, since his contract is almost expired im sure alot of clubs will be monitoring him..
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For a player who is playing for Athletic Bilbao for so many years (a team that dont achieve anything) and suddenly want to leave, there's only 1 thing to get him here. Money! First team football, 90K a week plus goal scoring bonus and Spanish contingent to help him settle down.

I dont see why he wont choose us unless Man City or Chelsea step in with 150K a week.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 03:30 PM)
For a player who is playing for Athletic Bilbao for so many years (a team that dont achieve anything) and suddenly want to leave, there's only 1 thing to get him here. Money! First team football, 90K a week plus goal scoring bonus and Spanish contingent to help him settle down.

I dont see why he wont choose us unless Man City or Chelsea step in with 150K a week.
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it might not just be Man C or Chelsea, dont forget nowadays alot of clubs now have sugar daddy owner..and summore we dont have champion's league
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 03:30 PM)
For a player who is playing for Athletic Bilbao for so many years (a team that dont achieve anything) and suddenly want to leave, there's only 1 thing to get him here. Money! First team football, 90K a week plus goal scoring bonus and Spanish contingent to help him settle down.

I dont see why he wont choose us unless Man City or Chelsea step in with 150K a week.
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Arsenal was reported to be interested with him as well
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Sep 19 2012, 03:38 PM)
it might not just be Man C or Chelsea, dont forget nowadays alot of clubs now have sugar daddy owner..and summore we dont have champion's league
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He's smart enough to learn from the other Fernando just how much fans here will value him and love him. He's going to be hero here. If he's going to other clubs like Man City, Chelsea or PSG, he's just going to be back up player. If he's after Champions League football he would have left long time ago.

Money, first team football, worship by fans, Spanish connection here - so why not?
Rather than just money and sit on the bench with other clubs.


Added on September 19, 2012, 3:46 pm
QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Sep 19 2012, 03:41 PM)
Arsenal was reported to be interested with him as well
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Arsenal should be the least to worry about. They wont pay big wages biggrin.gif

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