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post Oct 14 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 03:55 AM)
no lar rear also functions during normal braking. notice there's 2 hoses going into the rear drums (for my case at least, dunno bout your modded disc)
1 is for hand brake and the other for normal braking

either you misinterpreted him or he explained to you wrongly
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yup, theres 2 cables, 1 for normal brake and 1 for handbrake. iirc, what he told me is that for maintenance, i only need to check the brake pads only and leave the drum aside as the drum will serve as handbrake purpose and it doesnt really required maintenance because it doesnt function as a brake, and probably able to last for another 10 years or more.. need some pros to clarify this hmm.gif

no matter how, tmr i also need to visit my garage to do some check ups, hopefully it doesn't cost a bomb to fix it though.. else my front mod is gone rclxub.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Oct 14 2012, 08:49 PM)
battery/alternator just changed, don't think got prob there..add some relay how? i'm noob lol

why philips/osram ahh? i just changed bosch OEM bulb today..bosch no good ahh?
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can look up guides, or if you're not good, bring to honest accessory shop/wireman workshop to help smile.gif

philips/osram are generally better OEMs, however they are a lot more expensive. its not to say bosch isnt good, its just that there are better alternatives if you're willing to pay for the price wink.gif


Added on October 14, 2012, 9:31 pm
QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 08:59 PM)
Thanks for all the inputs on my previous enquiries. I took my car to a Hankook workshop at Sri Petaling for a change of gear oil. After the change of new gear oil, the gear can be engaged smothly. icon_rolleyes.gif

But i'm think the price is quite expensive. The charges as below:
2 ltr of of gear oil: 2 x rm25 = rm50
0.5 ltr more of gear oil: rm13
labour: rm10
tax: rm0.60
So total is rm 73.60. I thought change of gear oil can be done within rm50 or even lesser?

Lucky that i didn't bring my car back to the Castrol workshop which will be going to dissasemble my gearbox to check what problem!  sweat.gif
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pricing seem *A BIT* high for the gear oil. then again if it solves the problem, thats still good smile.gif

the tax on the other hand seems funny... but hey, only 60 cents. i wouldnt be that bothered about it rofl


Added on October 14, 2012, 9:35 pm
QUOTE(evolution120 @ Oct 14 2012, 09:23 PM)
yup, theres 2 cables, 1 for normal brake and 1 for handbrake. iirc, what he told me is that for maintenance, i only need to check the brake pads only and leave the drum aside as the drum will serve as handbrake purpose and it doesnt really required maintenance because it doesnt function as a brake, and probably able to last for another 10 years or more.. need some pros to clarify this  hmm.gif
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im coming from the perspective of fully stock no mod rear drum brake.

based on what you say, its probably drum + disc combination for your rear, and the drum serves as handbrake while disc for your normal braking.
if thats the case focus on your discs then be it front or rear smile.gif

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 14 2012, 09:35 PM
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post Oct 14 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 09:27 PM)
pricing seem *A BIT* high for the gear oil. then again if it solves the problem, thats still good smile.gif
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may i ask what is the normal/common price for changing gear oil? As i checked the receipt which i change the cluth set, the gear oil cost me rm35. I'm not sure is it more expensive if i just change the gear oil compare to repairing other parts too. hmm.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 09:55 PM)
may i ask what is the normal/common price for changing gear oil? As i checked the receipt which i change the cluth set, the gear oil cost me rm35. I'm not sure is it more expensive if i just change the gear oil compare to repairing other parts too.  hmm.gif
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i cant give you a definitive answer since i've never dealt with manual transmission gear oil, only automatic transmission gear oil (or ATF).

even if it really is more expensive, it is just merely rm20 or so additional, and most importantly it got your problem solve didn't it?

now to poison you further: try out lubegard additive? brows.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:10 PM

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I changed my gear oil for RM30 only at Shell service center. Also bought the 3 drive belts and brought to the service center to change and total bill was RM40 only smile.gif


QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 09:55 PM)
may i ask what is the normal/common price for changing gear oil? As i checked the receipt which i change the cluth set, the gear oil cost me rm35. I'm not sure is it more expensive if i just change the gear oil compare to repairing other parts too.  hmm.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 09:58 PM)
i cant give you a definitive answer since i've never dealt with manual transmission gear oil, only automatic transmission gear oil (or ATF).

even if it really is more expensive, it is just merely rm20 or so additional, and most importantly it got your problem solve didn't it?

now to poison you further: try out lubegard additive?  brows.gif
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the lubegard is some kind of supplement for the ATF as i check from their website, right? or i'm wrong..hehe


Added on October 14, 2012, 10:16 pm
QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Oct 14 2012, 10:10 PM)
I changed my gear oil for RM30 only at Shell service center. Also bought the 3 drive belts and brought to the service center to change and total bill was RM40 only smile.gif
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wa...my price is double! kena chopped again cry.gif

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post Oct 14 2012, 10:16 PM

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Let me tell you the specs of Iswara....

6 - Manual Transmission Oil
Type - Hypoid gear oil, use Petronas GL-4SAE80 or equivalent.
API classification GL-4 or higher.
SAE Viscosity No. 75W-90
Quantity: 1.8 litres

I'm guessing the workshop used some funky special gear oil for that price (remember mine was RM30 only using Shell's gear oil), plus he must have flushed it really clean since spec says 1.8 liters but he managed to use 2.5 liters? 700ml fresh gear oil poured in and drained just to make sure it's all clean before the 1.8 litres went in?


QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 08:59 PM)
But i'm think the price is quite expensive. The charges as below:
2 ltr of of gear oil: 2 x rm25 = rm50
0.5 ltr more of gear oil: rm13
labour: rm10
tax: rm0.60
So total is rm 73.60. I thought change of gear oil can be done within rm50 or even lesser?
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 10:15 PM)
the lubegard is some kind of supplement for the ATF as i check from their website, right? or i'm wrong..hehe


Added on October 14, 2012, 10:16 pm
wa...my price is double! kena chopped again  cry.gif
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http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-197/LUBEGARD+G...luid+Supplement

god manual transmission additive also whistling.gif

and really, it isnt much of a chop compared to going back to your previous workshop that mentioned on disassembling your gear box, no?

that would easily be a 3 digit or even 4digit chop if they are vicious. which is easily many times over what you've been "chopped". so... i'd be thankful on that at least smile.gif
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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Oct 14 2012, 10:16 PM)
Let me tell you the specs of Iswara....

6 - Manual Transmission Oil
Type - Hypoid gear oil, use Petronas GL-4SAE80 or equivalent.
API classification GL-4 or higher.
SAE Viscosity No. 75W-90
Quantity: 1.8 litres

I'm guessing the workshop used some funky special gear oil for that price (remember mine was RM30 only using Shell's gear oil), plus he must have flushed it really clean since spec says 1.8 liters but he managed to use 2.5 liters? 700ml fresh gear oil poured in and drained just to make sure it's all clean before the 1.8 litres went in?
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there is no flushing. how come i'm so sure? Becasue i did ask him to flush my gearbox but he told me flushing is for auto transmission only, manual transmission need no flushing.

hmm...actually i did ask him is there any good/bad gear oil and his answer is "we use normal gear oil for your car which is 80-90W, dont worry".

As i checked the receipt, it is written "Win Power Gear EP90 1L". But I saw the gear oil is pump from a big container which is normally seen in those workshop. Besides, i believe he is the distributor for this Win Power oil because i saw alot of this brand stickers all round the workshop.
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 10:22 PM)
As i checked the receipt, it is written "Win Power Gear EP90 1L". But I saw the gear oil is pump from a big container which is normally seen in those workshop. Besides, i believe he is the distributor for this Win Power oil because i saw alot of this brand stickers all round the workshop.
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are you that gullible or what? lol
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 10:22 PM)
and really, it isnt much of a chop compared to going back to your previous workshop that mentioned on disassembling your gear box, no?

that would easily be a 3 digit or even 4digit chop if they are vicious. which is easily many times over what you've been "chopped". so... i'd be thankful on that at least smile.gif
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agree with u. i believed i have to spend 4 digits again if i send my car to the Castrol workshop for the dissambling of the gearbox coz he did mentioned what clutch sub/clutch plate/clutch pad etc. Thank god that at least i've made a right decision of not going back to the Castrol workshop.

besides, i did mention another problem to the foreman. Then he found that my tie rod end got problem and he asked me to touch it while he's turning the steering wheel. I can feel light shakes on it. But i told him i'll consider 1st because i remember that I've change a new tie rod on Feb this year.

I'm wondering is the tie rod end broken so fast? I'm a very very careful driver where i try my best to avoid every hole/unbalanced/uneven roads.
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 10:24 PM)
are you that gullible or what? lol
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eh, i cant get what u mean...paiseh...mind to further elaborate?
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:43 PM

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Anyone got pajero twin layer brake servo for Proton Saga?
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post Oct 14 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 10:32 PM)
besides, i did mention another problem to the foreman. Then he found that my tie rod end got problem and he asked me to touch it while he's turning the steering wheel. I can feel light shakes on it. But i told him i'll consider 1st because i remember that I've change a new tie rod on Feb this year.

I'm wondering is the tie rod end broken so fast? I'm a very very careful driver where i try my best to avoid every hole/unbalanced/uneven roads.
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if you are ok with jalan ipoh area, you can find kent (aka nestum LYN ID)
he should be able to check and let you know if its really a problem or not, and his pricing so far i find it reasonable.

i've been sending all my wheel/steering/brakes stuff to him since early this year until now smile.gif

as far as i know, tie rod end doesnt brake that fast unless you've hit a really bad pot hole (or road curb) etc.


Added on October 14, 2012, 10:58 pm
QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 10:34 PM)
eh, i cant get what u mean...paiseh...mind to further elaborate?
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got lots of stickers doesn't make a shop a distributor la aiyo. if you really want to find out, google or asking around is your best friend.

i'm not particularly familiar with "Win Power" else i would've answered you right away

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post Oct 14 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 10:15 PM)
the lubegard is some kind of supplement for the ATF as i check from their website, right? or i'm wrong..hehe


Added on October 14, 2012, 10:16 pm
wa...my price is double! kena chopped again  cry.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Oct 14 2012, 10:43 PM)
Anyone got pajero twin layer brake servo for Proton Saga?
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go halfcut shop find.. any halfcut shop will have them.. opt for vr4 1 will be better..
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Oct 14 2012, 08:59 PM)
Thanks for all the inputs on my previous enquiries. I took my car to a Hankook workshop at Sri Petaling for a change of gear oil. After the change of new gear oil, the gear can be engaged smothly. icon_rolleyes.gif

But i'm think the price is quite expensive. The charges as below:
2 ltr of of gear oil: 2 x rm25 = rm50
0.5 ltr more of gear oil: rm13
labour: rm10
tax: rm0.60
So total is rm 73.60. I thought change of gear oil can be done within rm50 or even lesser?

Lucky that i didn't bring my car back to the Castrol workshop which will be going to dissasemble my gearbox to check what problem!  sweat.gif
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LOL..u stay at sri petaling? me also. dat corner shop hankook? dat shop potong orang punya leher mia. last time i ask for quote for rear axle bush include install, they gib me rm 2xx-3xx. i was like wtf.. last last i went to my usual unker shop at old klang road settle all at rm14x

there was once i ask them how much workmanship to change 1 side rear lamp, they charge me rm 90 bucks. fuu..in d end i change myself n it cost me nothing.

u r better off at other shop... this hankook workshop, somemore got gomen tax. wtf
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 15 2012, 08:45 AM)
LOL..u stay at sri petaling? me also. dat corner shop hankook? dat shop potong orang punya leher mia. last time i ask for quote for rear axle bush include install, they gib me rm 2xx-3xx. i was like wtf.. last last i went to my usual unker shop at old klang road settle all at rm14x

there was once i ask them how much workmanship to change 1 side rear lamp, they charge me rm 90 bucks. fuu..in d end i change myself n it cost me nothing.

u r better off at other shop... this hankook workshop, somemore got gomen tax. wtf
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Ya, that's the corner shop. Actually i stay at cheras but i went to sri petaling to have breakfast with a friend. So i saw that shop open on sunday and i try this shop rather than going back to the Chopper Castrol shop. This is my 1st visit to that shop so i have no idea on their price.

After that i did ask about the GoodYear Ducaro GA 185/60/14 and they quoted me rm200 and i'm shocking.gif coz i change my DuraPlus(abit lower grade, and Ducaro no more production now) for rm155 only. Then i know their price is kinda high.
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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Oct 14 2012, 10:43 PM)
Anyone got pajero twin layer brake servo for Proton Saga?
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U can also use Honda as well.
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