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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V26, Keeping up with the others for over 27

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post Oct 13 2012, 09:45 PM

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Hi i m new here as well
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post Oct 13 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Oct 13 2012, 09:45 PM)
Hi i m new here as well
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wahaha..u new here, then who is oldies. 1.3/1.5 mimc time attack champion somemore notworthy.gif
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post Oct 13 2012, 09:57 PM

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guys, not sure if u guys encountered this problem before, but yesterday i firstly encountered, and i think is freaking dangerous..

i changed the whole braking system except for front, now i usually step on around 30% of the brake, then can feel the brake force coming, few seconds later, the car totally stopped and i maintained 30% of the pedal, suddenly the car can just move by itself like i release the brake already. i need to step harder to stop it, goes deeper like 50% for example, the car stopped again, but then after a few seconds, the car started to move again, now i have to step until deep deep like stock braking system the only the car can totally stopped.

worse thing, just now i was cruising @ federal highway, then the car infront suddenly gave mild e brake, my brake suddenly dont eat at all, need to step until like 70% depth then only can feel the brake force. almost shitbrix at there

wtf sial. then i contacted my foreman, he said most probably the seal inside the master pump give problem ady.

so anyone encountered this problem b4? sad.gif

very funny 1 wor, not all the time happen, quite random 1.. my brake got cursed izit? sweat.gif
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:02 PM

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break pump bocor i think/ur break tube got rat bite! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(j-insigh @ Oct 13 2012, 10:02 PM)
break pump bocor i think/ur break tube got rat bite! biggrin.gif
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dude u serious? how a rat can bite a thick rubber hose lol hmm.gif
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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Oct 13 2012, 09:57 PM)
guys, not sure if u guys encountered this problem before, but yesterday i firstly encountered, and i think is freaking dangerous..

i changed the whole braking system except for front, now i usually step on around 30% of the brake, then can feel the brake force coming, few seconds later, the car totally stopped and i maintained 30% of the pedal, suddenly the car can just move by itself like i release the brake already. i need to step harder to stop it, goes deeper like 50% for example, the car stopped again, but then after a few seconds, the car started to move again, now i have to step until deep deep like stock braking system the only the car can totally stopped.

worse thing, just now i was cruising @ federal highway, then the car infront suddenly gave mild e brake, my brake suddenly dont eat at all, need to step until like 70% depth then only can feel the brake force. almost shitbrix at there

wtf sial. then i contacted my foreman, he said most probably the seal inside the master pump give problem ady.

so anyone encountered this problem b4? sad.gif

very funny 1 wor, not all the time happen, quite random 1.. my brake got cursed izit? sweat.gif
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nop. mine maintaiin like normal. mayb got udara inside d tube? or mayb starts show failure sign..so better check thoroughly.

QUOTE(j-insigh @ Oct 13 2012, 10:02 PM)
break pump bocor i think/ur break tube got rat bite! biggrin.gif
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hate rat!!
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(j-insigh @ Oct 13 2012, 09:23 PM)
iswara a/b 1999 1.3S user reporting in. Been using since 2003, and had moderate periodic clean ups and maintenance. Today just went to change a pair of rear tires to new Falcon 14' i think (standard size), petrol filter (rm12),a pair of rear drums break shoes (rm65), tubeless and alignment (rm5x2)+(rm20)

edit: KIV list
-flushing of break oils, as nw its kopi-o kao
-change gear oil box
-change timing belt
-change spark cable maybe.

how much it wil cost me roughly for my kiv list for now? and also any recommended mech ard PG?
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welcome bro.

- new brake fluid and flushing should cost around/less than rm50 if dot 3/4 oil
- if manual, should be between rm50-100 or much less? auto a bit more
- if include the aux belts etc, maybe within rm100-200 range
- rm50-60ish


Added on October 13, 2012, 10:08 pm
QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 13 2012, 09:57 PM)
wahaha..u new here, then who is oldies. 1.3/1.5 mimc time attack champion somemore  notworthy.gif
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lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 13 2012, 10:08 PM
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last time my break suddenly become like urs also. went for analysis, apparently the tube at rear wheel (left) bocor. so yeah, its like so freaking near to the car in front, and we are pressing damn hard for break. i get u man.. go for checkups tml
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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:04 PM)
dude u serious? how a rat can bite a thick rubber hose lol  hmm.gif
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rat r crazy man... it chew my headlamp wayar b4 this. latest it chew till putus my 2 spark plug cable..
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my KIV list
-flushing of break oils, as nw its kopi-o kao
-change gear oil box
-change timing belt
-change spark cable maybe.

how much it wil cost me roughly for my kiv list for now? and also any recommended mech ard PG?
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Oct 13 2012, 09:57 PM)
guys, not sure if u guys encountered this problem before, but yesterday i firstly encountered, and i think is freaking dangerous..

i changed the whole braking system except for front, now i usually step on around 30% of the brake, then can feel the brake force coming, few seconds later, the car totally stopped and i maintained 30% of the pedal, suddenly the car can just move by itself like i release the brake already. i need to step harder to stop it, goes deeper like 50% for example, the car stopped again, but then after a few seconds, the car started to move again, now i have to step until deep deep like stock braking system the only the car can totally stopped.

worse thing, just now i was cruising @ federal highway, then the car infront suddenly gave mild e brake, my brake suddenly dont eat at all, need to step until like 70% depth then only can feel the brake force. almost shitbrix at there

wtf sial. then i contacted my foreman, he said most probably the seal inside the master pump give problem ady.

so anyone encountered this problem b4? sad.gif

very funny 1 wor, not all the time happen, quite random 1.. my brake got cursed izit? sweat.gif
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check the brake pumps for leaks. check brake hoses for leaks. re-bleed/flush the brake oil as required.

if still persist, could be front or rear caliper jammed. get it fixed ASAP before accidents.

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oh as a reminder: our default rear drums bite much harder than solid discs, they just response slow and are prone to fade easily.

so considering your recent mod, you might want to take a closer look at that

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 13 2012, 10:14 PM
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:05 PM)
nop. mine maintaiin like normal. mayb got udara inside d tube? or mayb starts show failure sign..so better check thoroughly.
hate rat!!
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dont think is air gone in.. cz it happens like.. 2 or 3 times out of 10 brake? not sure about rat, but recently i found both cockroachman and spiderman inside my car.. and that stupid spiderman caused me to bang the car infront.. damn

QUOTE(j-insigh @ Oct 13 2012, 10:08 PM)
last time my break suddenly become like urs also. went for analysis, apparently the tube at rear wheel (left) bocor. so yeah, its like so freaking near to the car in front, and we are pressing damn hard for break. i get u man.. go for checkups tml
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alright, noted. but did the brake fluid came out? or any brake oil stain around ur tube?

QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:09 PM)
rat r crazy man... it chew my headlamp wayar b4 this. latest it chew till putus my 2 spark plug cable..
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find something to cover the engine compartment base like conti cars tongue.gif

sound proof + anti rat = winrar

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 13 2012, 10:11 PM)
check the brake pumps for leaks. check brake hoses for leaks. re-bleed/flush the brake oil as required.

if still persist, could be front or rear caliper jammed. get it fixed ASAP before accidents.

=edit=
oh as a reminder: our default rear drums bite much harder than solid discs, they just response slow and are prone to fade easily.

so considering your recent mod, you might want to take a closer look at that
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alright, noted bro. but jenal told me that the rear only function as hanbrake, normal braking the drum doesn't function.. but anyway, sunday gonna drive to my garage and have some checkups.
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:09 PM)
rat r crazy man... it chew my headlamp wayar b4 this. latest it chew till putus my 2 spark plug cable..
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coil on plug, no more problem rclxms.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:21 PM)
alright, noted bro. but jenal told me that the rear only function as hanbrake, normal braking the drum doesn't function.. but anyway, sunday gonna drive to my garage and have some checkups.
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no lar rear also functions during normal braking. notice there's 2 hoses going into the rear drums (for my case at least, dunno bout your modded disc)
1 is for hand brake and the other for normal braking

either you misinterpreted him or he explained to you wrongly
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post Oct 14 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(jedi_master @ Oct 13 2012, 11:08 PM)
coil on plug, no more problem  rclxms.gif
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wahaha..

btw, saw u jus purchase pronto cable. issit 7mm cable?
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:19 PM)
wahaha..

btw, saw u jus purchase pronto cable. issit 7mm cable?
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Yes the one they make for our car is 7mm. I replaced my old Bosch super sports one with it. Colour scheme now a bit muted, from the bright red Bosch ones to these dark blue ones.
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post Oct 14 2012, 08:32 PM

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halo guys..i'm using proton saga megavalve '91..super old one, mileage almost 400k..but engine still kaw like got turbo haha..

the prob is the headlight lamp is quite dim, driving at night can't see the road liao..

i tried changing the headlight bulb, but still the same..

and when i turn on high beam suddenly the left headlight turned off. right one working good. i suspect sumthing wrong with the wiring..

u guys have any suggestion what the prob is???
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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Oct 14 2012, 08:32 PM)
halo guys..i'm using proton saga megavalve '91..super old one, mileage almost 400k..but engine still kaw like got turbo haha..

the prob is the headlight lamp is quite dim, driving at night can't see the road liao..

i tried changing the headlight bulb, but still the same..

and when i turn on high beam suddenly the left headlight turned off. right one working good. i suspect sumthing wrong with the wiring..

u guys have any suggestion what the prob is???
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perhaps add some relay? check your alternator/battery voltage values, perhaps even check your grounding resistance.

lastly when everything's fine, you can perhaps proceed to replace the bulb to philips/osram OEMs smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 08:43 PM)
perhaps add some relay? check your alternator/battery voltage values, perhaps even check your grounding resistance.

lastly when everything's fine, you can perhaps proceed to replace the bulb to philips/osram OEMs smile.gif
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battery/alternator just changed, don't think got prob there..add some relay how? i'm noob lol

why philips/osram ahh? i just changed bosch OEM bulb today..bosch no good ahh?
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post Oct 14 2012, 08:59 PM

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Thanks for all the inputs on my previous enquiries. I took my car to a Hankook workshop at Sri Petaling for a change of gear oil. After the change of new gear oil, the gear can be engaged smothly. icon_rolleyes.gif

But i'm think the price is quite expensive. The charges as below:
2 ltr of of gear oil: 2 x rm25 = rm50
0.5 ltr more of gear oil: rm13
labour: rm10
tax: rm0.60
So total is rm 73.60. I thought change of gear oil can be done within rm50 or even lesser?

Lucky that i didn't bring my car back to the Castrol workshop which will be going to dissasemble my gearbox to check what problem! sweat.gif

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