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GottliebDaimler
post Jun 10 2013, 05:00 PM

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I'm reading the prospectus for PFEPRF.

Annual Total Return for the Financial Years Ended 31 July
10.03%

Does it mean the NAV difference between 2011/07/31 & 2012/07/31 was 10.03%?
temmyoi
post Jun 10 2013, 09:34 PM

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Hi,

Can explain more about PM EPF saving funds?
j.passing.by
post Jun 11 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Jun 10 2013, 05:00 PM)
I'm reading the prospectus for PFEPRF.

Annual Total Return for the Financial Years Ended 31 July
10.03%

Does it mean the NAV difference between 2011/07/31 & 2012/07/31 was 10.03%?
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Not really. It shows the performance/increment of the fund over that period of 1 year. Can't just look at the NAV price over the years, since each annual distribution gives more units.

The NAV price will drop after each distribution. Total value remains the same.

Total value = number of units x NAV price.

So after distribution, more units and slightly lower NAV price.

Yes, amazing returns recently. If we look into its performance for 5 years, it was 2.75& per annum.

QUOTE(temmyoi @ Jun 10 2013, 09:34 PM)
Hi,

Can explain more about PM EPF saving funds?
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What do you like to know? Can write a book on this subject. And it would be repetitive of what you can find in Public Mutual website. smile.gif

j.passing.by
post Jun 11 2013, 02:46 PM

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Steep losses in some funds in the past week, mostly foreign funds. Indonesia Select has dropped a staggering 8.78% so far this month, and today's stock market (Jakarta) is down another 2% as I write.

The regional SEA funds, are also down but not as steep as Indonesia Select. I was holding 4 of them, public property (-1.08%) and PB real estate (-2.40%), public SEA (-4.21%) and PB Asean (-4.07%). (I bet both sides of the fence biggrin.gif ).

Was lucky to switch out all of them except for the last 2 batches that yet to pass the 90 days mark. So these last batches of SEA and Asean lost all the recent winnings and then some. I think I'll hold them, as I'm running out of free switches.

As mentioned, I have just started to go into local funds. Started with PIDF. So far so good. Then added Focus Select, and it is the only fund of all the local funds in the red. Bet on the wrong horse. laugh.gif Should have taken another fund which I have in mind too, Islamic Select Enterprises.

Also doing good is PB Mixed Asset Conservative. Switched from PB real estate. PBMAC was chosen as I'm too heavy in bond/money market funds, and to hedge my bets that it will perform better than bonds/money market, and yet not drop too much if the local market goes negative too.

Cheers.

PS. Am keeping an eye on the funds in Singapore too. Will get back into equities when the time is right.


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post Jun 11 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 11 2013, 01:52 PM)
Not really. It shows the performance/increment of the fund over that period of 1 year. Can't just look at the NAV price over the years, since each annual distribution gives more units.

The NAV price will drop after each distribution. Total value remains the same.

Total value = number of units x NAV price.

So after distribution, more units and slightly lower NAV price.

Yes, amazing returns recently. If we look into its performance for 5 years, it was 2.75& per annum.
What do you like to know? Can write a book on this subject. And it would be repetitive of what you can find in Public Mutual website.  smile.gif
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Basically if we want to calculate, we need to take into consideration of distribution also. Because after distribution, NAV drops thus no longer comparable with the NAV a year ago. nod.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:51 PM

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JCI 32.72% 20.67%
SET 47.32% 17.58%


Today's figures:
JCI YTD 6.69%
SET YTD 4.97%
KLCI YTD 6.59% (KLCI still holding its ground.)

Above was what I wrote nearly 3 weeks ago. Is the correction happening now? Time to enter? hmm.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 12 2013, 02:51 PM)
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JCI 32.72% 20.67%
SET 47.32% 17.58%


Today's figures:
JCI  YTD 6.69%
SET YTD 4.97%
KLCI YTD 6.59% (KLCI still holding its ground.)

Above was what I wrote nearly 3 weeks ago. Is the correction happening now? Time to enter?  hmm.gif
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hmm.gif is their market valuation still high?
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post Jun 12 2013, 03:14 PM

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What do I know about market valuation? I'm a layman with "buy low sell high" mantra and betting on the fastest horse! laugh.gif

Will it drop further or today's the last chance to enter?
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post Jun 12 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 12 2013, 03:14 PM)
What do I know about market valuation? I'm a layman with "buy low sell high" mantra and betting on the fastest horse!  laugh.gif

Will it drop further or today's the last chance to enter?
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rclxms.gif “Honesty is a very expensive gift, Don't expect it from cheap people.” ― Warren Buffett
icon_rolleyes.gif “When you combine ignorance and leverage, you get some pretty interesting results.” ― Warren Buffett
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"Will it drop further or today's the last chance to enter?"
rclxm9.gif the answer will always be there tomorrow....cos
“In the business world, the rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.” ― Warren Buffett

notworthy.gif GOOD LUCK with your horse picking..bro
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post Jun 12 2013, 09:19 PM

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Thank you for the quotes. You are indeed kind and helpful.


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post Jun 13 2013, 07:48 PM

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finally..
a steep drop in our local market.

Time to make some monies..
hahaha

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post Jun 13 2013, 08:03 PM

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my hunch is right after all.

On 23/05/2013, i switch from PRSF to PIMMF
Total Unit that time: 280395.84 at NAV 0.6697 cost RM187,781.09

Switching to PIMMF attract 0.75% switching charges at RM1,372.87
Ended i have Total Units: 179083.70 worth RM186408.22 at NAV 1.0409

But looking at PRSF today which drop tremendously at NAV 0.6599
i could be looking at RM185033 in value only.

Tomorrow hopefully it will drop MORE so that i will switch back to PRSF



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post Jun 13 2013, 08:35 PM

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Hi, I am thinking to invest in PUBLIC SINGAPORE EQUITY FUND? Any advise and comment for this fund? Is it now the right time to invest this fund? Thank you.

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post Jun 13 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(garfield007 @ Jun 13 2013, 08:35 PM)
Hi, I am thinking to invest in PUBLIC SINGAPORE EQUITY FUND? Any advise and comment for this fund? Is it now the right time to invest this fund? Thank you.
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I prefer PSEASF as it invests heavily in Singapore and other ASEAN countries.
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:12 AM

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Looks like PAUEF is not doing very well lately..
Hoping it'll bounce back stronger.
Do u guys usually divert ur fund whenever there's a downtrend?

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post Jun 18 2013, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(teng_08 @ Jun 18 2013, 12:12 AM)
Looks like PAUEF is not doing very well lately..
Hoping it'll bounce back stronger.
Do u guys usually divert ur fund whenever there's a downtrend?

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It's very hard PAUEF to rebounce till its previous high peak taking into consideration of weaken AUD against USD (as now 1 USD == AUD 1.0459).

Even Australian equity is doing good, the down side of the AUD losses is substantial (1 AUD == MYR 2.9960).

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post Jun 20 2013, 11:18 PM

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Hi, if i were to compare these 4 (PISEF, PIDF, PDSF, PFSF), which would be recommended?
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You may review from this 3 years performance and make final decision. I have 4 of them invested.

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post Jun 21 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(transit @ Jun 20 2013, 11:29 PM)
You may review from this 3 years performance and make final decision. I have 4 of them invested.

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Thank you. smile.gif

My initial thought was to put 1k in all four and monitor but i'm also considering if it's better to invest in one or two only.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 18 2013, 07:50 AM)
It's very PAUEF to rebounce till its previous high peak taking into consideration of weaken AUD against USD (as now 1 USD == AUD 1.0459).

Even Australian equity is doing good, the down side of the AUD losses is substantial (1 AUD == MYR 2.9960).
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