I think you missed the point, what I want to point out is: current focus on the enforcement of speed limit is not the way forward if you want to make our road safer, especially not when the enforcement is done at places which are not accident prone areas but instead the locations selected are where they can make most money out of the system.

They should be focusing on other things if they really want to make our road safer. All of your 6 factors won't be solved with a blanket speed limit enforcement. Revamp the education system and the driving test, make annual inspection for cars above 5 years old as mandatory, put a crash test requirement for new cars which will force manufacturers to put airbags, VSC and other safety features to their cars, mandate protective gears for motorcyclists & etc.

If they really do the speed limit enforcement at accident prone areas, I don't mind seeing people driving a brand new Porsche be limited to the same speed as someone who is driving a Kancil since the area itself is dangerous. However if they are enforcing the speed limit at a clear, straight and wide 3 lanes highway, do you really think that a brand new Porsche driving at 130kmh is more dangerous as a 7 years old Kancil doing 110kmh?

Speeding is a big part of the problem. It's not the only problem. There are also other big problem. From what I read, AES are being implemented in 90 countries so are you suggesting those country's motor authority are all wrong?

was wondering how close do u need to be before slow down when see camera...i was about 200 metres away from the camera and slow down till 90 around 100 metres away from the camera but the fella still flash at me..the cars in the lane beside me wer sumwat travelling in a similiar speed as well

was wondering if there is a minimun detection distance?

location : Kajang ( Northbound to KL)

ahaha ... aes are implemented in other countries with bona fide intentions and warnings, here the aes implementation are questionable ... there is nothing wrong with the gun, the shooter who aims the gun, and what he is pointing at, that is the problem.

ahaha ... aes are implemented in other countries with bona fide intentions and warnings, here the aes implementation are questionable ... there is nothing wrong with the gun, the shooter who aims the gun, and what he is pointing at, that is the problem.

Totally agree with the gun analogy, there is nothing wrong with the gun but the reason why the gun needs to be pointed is the most important thing to ask. If the reason is justified, you still need to ensure that the gun is pointed at the right target and at the right time. Not just randomly pointing the gun at a crowd in a shopping mall. Saying that others have successfully pointed a gun before doesn't mean that you will be successful in pointing your gun.

From what I read the politicians are actually asking for the data showing that the locations are indeed accident prone areas which until now there JPJ is still silence about it. The politicions are also questioning the business model of the AES operators which make more money when they issued more summons.

ahaha ... aes are implemented in other countries with bona fide intentions and warnings, here the aes implementation are questionable ... there is nothing wrong with the gun, the shooter who aims the gun, and what he is pointing at, that is the problem.

There's nothing wrong to install AES, but the crucial part is about the location n speed limit. I did pass by some AES installed area where I find out they are accident free area. And speed limit is totally ridiculous, which it set 90km/h on 3 lane highway n 30km/h on branch road, don't u think it's weird n out of common sense?

I just drove back from Johore to Selangor 2 days ago, what I observe is along the highway there is none AES could be found at the constant 110km/h speed area. But there is speed limit transition area that changes speed limit from 110km/h to 90km/h, out of sudden there is a non-stop flashing AES waiting there. As a result, many drivers didn't aware of the speed change, were captured at the moment. N that area is accident free.

What I could assume is, the motive of government is no doubt making AES as huge profit business.

N there are 2 private companies monitoring speedster by controlling AES, and earning at least 16% of commission by issuing each ticket. it means, the more drivers got summoned the more commission they can earn!

if u still cannot see the point, pls bang ur head to wall n call urself "moron"!!!

Looks like you don't get your own point. If the driving skill is the root cause of the problem, will it be solved by having a low speed limit? Like I said before, the focus on speed limit won't solve our problem.

How do you improve the driving skills? Is it by making the driving test easier through auto only driving test and let more people on the road? Why don't they revamp the driving schools and the driving test? Proper education system will also change the drivers' attitude.

You said before that speed limit is the easiest thing to enforce but is it the right thing to focus on to "make our road safer"? Just look at the statistics to see where the focus should be, if motorcyclists are the most vulnerable group, solve the problem directly. Mandate the usage of protective gears, increase the number of motorcycle lanes and ensure that motorcycles are in good working condition.

I ride my bike daily to work and often I came across road blocks by police and JPJ. In this road blocks, they would never check whether the tyres are still good, whether the brakes are working, the helmets meet the safety standards and the lights are working. They would be more interested to see whether the road tax & license are expired or not, the number plates are according to the regulation or not, the exhaust is modified or not. Even people riding their bikes wearing shorts and selipar jepun won't be a problem for them.

Please don't fool yourself by believing that the speed limit enforcement is to make our road safer. Like people have said before, if they want to make our road safer, why do they always do the speed traps at a straight and wide downhill road with low speed limit? Please show us the data on these so called "black spots", how many accidents have happened there?

Some people would just believe what is told to them instead of thinking it through and make their own judgement. Can't blame on them since the media keeps on showing the same thing over and over again. Every accident news will be associated with speeding, regardless whether a motorcyclist was ran over by a lorry or a bus going downhill went head on with the toll plaza.

Same thing about AES, everyday in the news it is said that the system is to educate people, the system is to make our road safer, the system is installed at black spots and etc. But when they were asked about the data showing the locations are indeed black spots, they are silent about it. Smart people will observe and question the validity of the claims but others would just accept what is told to them by the media. They would just accept a simple explaination saying other countries have successfully implemented the system without digging deeper on how those countries implemented it in the first place.

There's nothing wrong to install AES, but the crucial part is about the location n speed limit. I did pass by some AES installed area where I find out they are accident free area. And speed limit is totally ridiculous, which it set 90km/h on 3 lane highway n 30km/h on branch road, don't u think it's weird n out of common sense?

I just drove back from Johore to Selangor 2 days ago, what I observe is along the highway there is none AES could be found at the constant 110km/h speed area. But there is speed limit transition area that changes speed limit from 110km/h to 90km/h, out of sudden there is a non-stop flashing AES waiting there. As a result, many drivers didn't aware of the speed change, were captured at the moment. N that area is accident free.

What I could assume is, the motive of government is no doubt making AES as huge profit business.

N there are 2 private companies monitoring speedster by controlling AES, and earning at least 16% of commission by issuing each ticket. it means, the more drivers got summoned the more commission they can earn!

if u still cannot see the point, pls bang ur head to wall n call urself "moron"!!!

Some people would just believe what is told to them instead of thinking it through and make their own judgement. Can't blame on them since the media keeps on showing the same thing over and over again. Every accident news will be associated with speeding, regardless whether a motorcyclist was ran over by a lorry or a bus going downhill went head on with the toll plaza.

Same thing about AES, everyday in the news it is said that the system is to educate people, the system is to make our road safer, the system is installed at black spots and etc. But when they were asked about the data showing the locations are indeed black spots, they are silent about it. Smart people will observe and question the validity of the claims but others would just accept what is told to them by the media. They would just accept a simple explaination saying other countries have successfully implemented the system without digging deeper on how those countries implemented it in the first place.

a lower speed limit will hopefully lower the chances of accident.... <-- that is my point...
the key word here is lowering the chances of accident...

AES is not the eliminate accident completely...

Let me ask u, revamping the driving schools and education system or installing AES, which will be easier?
true for now AES is like a knee-jerk reaction, but at least hopefully it can almost immediately reduce the chance of accident happening as compared to revamping driving schools and education system that might take 1 generation or 2..

Ahah... the road block on motors... i got no comments on that as i dont ride a capchai...
but what i know is, even with motorcycle lanes, those banes of the public will still ride on the car lanes...

dude, speed limit enforcement is to, again i repeat, hopefully reduces the chance of accident... reduces the chance... not eliminate... when the chances of accident is reduces, won't it technically be safer?

u think straight, clear road people cannot accident ar? u are so mistaken if you think that...
(of course this might be open to debate why there is speed traps there, to collect money for big G or as a deterrent/education , its up to your own interpretation. But come to think of it, straight road is where most drivers like you know how to put the power down instead of in corners ... so isn't straight road a better location to deter most drivers from speeding and to just blardy obey the speed limit? )

The location of AES camera is determined by MiROS (and maybe a few other agencies, not sure on this). You would have to contact them for data on those "black spots".

I don't know about your area. But of the 2 AES area that I pass often, those are indeed places most people will do speeding, me included. And these 2 are often the same spot that I have noticed police with radar gun before, just that instead of human manning the sensor, it's now automatic.

curious about if drive between 160 to 180 can the aes capture my pic????

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Added on October 25, 2012, 2:29 pmnotice the aes before kajang exit keep flashing for no reason

AES can work at >200km/h

Which is faster ? your physical vehicle or light-speed ?

like that next time have to do 220 to 240

Bro, still can capture lah.